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[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:58 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Before I go on who is Corlanna? Clever change of someone's name? And Nomi?

 

Me and Laine's hydra.

[Cory Caboose]

Hate saying things like this but honestly I think BFG is more likely to sub out as a wolf than as a villager and my VOLUME ANALYSIS still heavily points at her being a wolf.

 

I have trouble pushing people for personal reasons sometimes and I couldn't there, so that's probably my fault as well.

[Lenlo]

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:58 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

This game is really interesting.

 

Why was Lenlo almost at L-1 before most of the game checked in? A few still haven't. Lot of people I haven't played with yet before.

 

Before I go on who is Corlanna? Clever change of someone's name? And Nomi?

 

I had more but want these answered first

Yeah interesting, not pitiful. Good word choice.

 

I got run up so fast cause wolves.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:58 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

This game is really interesting.

 

Why was Lenlo almost at L-1 before most of the game checked in? A few still haven't. Lot of people I haven't played with yet before. 

 

Before I go on who is Corlanna? Clever change of someone's name? And Nomi?

 

I had more but want these answered first

 

Like I hate this.

[Yates]

[unvote]

[Cory Caboose]

Probably wolves: Lenlo, Yates, RTE

Remainder is probably in Tab/Hallia/Thane. Would guess Hallia though she's had her moments. Still can't shake the feeling that dice is a villager.

Currently rereading to see if I can clarify.

[Yates]

Talk to me Cory. Pretend I can invoke a mod confirm at any point in the game.

 

Who keeps us ALL alive for day 2 over Nomi and why?

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:06 PM, Yates said:

Talk to me Cory. Pretend I can invoke a mod confirm at any point in the game.

 

Who keeps us ALL alive for day 2 over Nomi and why?

 

I have no idea why the wolves do what they do.

 

If I am a wolf I literally never kill Nomi over someone more dangerous to me, but saying that's probably going to get more people throwing shade at me regardless of the truth of the statement because people don't care about actually reading me and just judge me on a "is he alive late" basis.

[Cory Caboose]

If we get wrecked by a low content wolf team because we decided to play hero I am going to be irate.

 

I'm talking specifically about Hallia/Tab/BFG (RTE), as there basically has to be wolves in that pile.

 

[Cory Caboose]

Maybe I'm wrong on dice. I'm almost at the Nomi conversation but I've literally never seen dice talk to someone like that as a wolf before. But maybe he's getting better.

I did see some progress in his wolf game recently, think it was British Monarchy but don't remember, was speccing

[Yates]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:08 PM, cory caboose said:

...people don't care about actually reading me and just judge me on a "is he alive late" basis.

LOL - not throwing shade but isn't this exactly how you tell people to "read" Clov??  

 

Please think through the above [question I asked wrt N1 kill].  It's important to me.

[Cory Caboose]

Shad and Zander are literally never wolves here.

 

I would be shocked beyond belief if Sili was a wolf here.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:12 PM, Yates said:

LOL - not throwing shade but isn't this exactly how you tell people to "read" Clov??  

 

Go read Rustlemania.

Turns out there are no shortcuts.

[Yates]

Clov wasn't a Day 1 participant in Rustlemania, though, was he?

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:06 PM, Yates said:

Who keeps us ALL alive for day 2 over Nomi and why?

 

Someone who doesn't shoot in the me/Clov crowd on n1 for fear of one of us getting doctor'd or something like that.

 

They either shot Clov or Shad on n2, probably a testament to Lenlo not being the doctor and scum no longer being afraid of a doctor since Lenlo was never CC'd.

 

Clov was outright playing better than me this game, as he doesn't lose his cool like I can and doesn't get hotheaded. Almost the whole game was reading him villager, whereas I was not as consensus. Wouldn't be surprised if he was shot outright.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:16 PM, Yates said:

Clov wasn't a Day 1 participant in Rustlemania, though, was he?

 

Clov joined the game on Day 3. He lived until Day 8, which was LYLO, when the game ended. Some of his early reads were bad, he wasn't a consensus villager until he ramped up later so he was never a priority kill.

[Cory Caboose]

And Yates let's just be honest and real

 

You are a better arguer and convincer than I am. I have some modicum amount of charisma and probably have a great deal more heart, but you are more outright manipulative and probably can sway crowds better than I can because you are likeable and present yourself in a more logically straight manner than I do (as my head is always racing at 1000mph and I don't always get the words out correctly and sometimes say too much and get impatient etc.) It's like how I would lose when I went up against Tom, who just was better than I was at that sort of stuff.

 

So I'm accepting that I will probably lose this fight and the sad irony that I joined a mafia game to try and impress my girlfriend who is sick of being mislynched will likely end in me being mislynched after having a poor d1-d2 and never really getting over the hump readwise.

I am still significantly uncomfortable but just pressing through to at least try and save face at this point.

[Yates]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:18 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:16 PM, Yates said:

Clov wasn't a Day 1 participant in Rustlemania, though, was he?

 

Clov joined the game on Day 3. He lived until Day 8, which was LYLO, when the game ended. Some of his early reads were bad, he wasn't a consensus villager until he ramped up later so he was never a priority kill.

 

Okay. But:

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:17 PM, cory caboose said:

Clov was outright playing better than me this game, as he doesn't lose his cool like I can and doesn't get hotheaded. Almost the whole game was reading him villager, whereas I was not as consensus. Wouldn't be surprised if he was shot outright.

So he was playing a bad game in Rustlemania. He was playing a good game here.

[Taborline]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:09 PM, cory caboose said:

If we get wrecked by a low content wolf team because we decided to play hero I am going to be irate.

 

I'm talking specifically about Hallia/Tab/BFG (RTE), as there basically has to be wolves in that pile.

 

I'm more worried that the towns are the low content and that's why WE'RE being wrecked. 

[Taborline]

The emphasis there was that you're not one of us, Cory ;)

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:23 PM, Yates said:

So he was playing a bad game in Rustlemania. He was playing a good game here.

 

Well, hinging on his reads, but he was at least a ~consensus villager.

 

And now he's dead.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:24 PM, Taborline said:

The emphasis there was that you're not one of us, Cory ;)

 

The truth will set me free.

If you are a villager I am sorry.

[Yates]

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:23 PM, cory caboose said:

And Yates let's just be honest and real

 

You are a better arguer and convincer than I am.

I am confident you do not feel this way.

 

This is how I see CoryScum assessing the team:

 

"I can trick Clov for a day but he gets more dangerous as the game progresses"

"Yates can literally never lynch me. I've never been lynched without an investigation result and lolYates isn't going to be the one to do it."

[Yates]

I'm not even 100% convinced you are scum, Cory. I just need you to talk me into a Town read because these are things that are bothering me.

[Cory Caboose]

I remember going up against you in WitD as a villager (you were a villager too) and the entire dead thread going "Cory's probably just testing Yates but Yates just looks a lot cleaner for it and that could backfire against Cory"

 

Because DM.