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Shad_ Spam Master

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  On 11/2/2015 at 6:14 PM, Hallia said:

Hmmmm. This morning exchange between Shad and Cory is making me rethink the villaread on Cory. In combination with the scummy vibes from Alanna I will trust myself and

[v] Corlanna [/v]

 

What bothered you about it?  What do you think of BFG's case?

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Shad_ Spam Master

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  On 11/2/2015 at 6:27 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

:/ i dnt like how cory helped dice.

 

I still think it's odd that Cory was town reading him prior to the fight with Nomi.

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Realized I was ahead of Laine's Lenlo ISO and traveled back in time to read it. Seems consistent with how town!Laine thinks.  I strongly disagree with this point:
 

  On 10/31/2015 at 1:23 PM, alannalynn said:

- Lenlo's reads list. I mentioned wanting to look at this a bit closer. I don't fully AGREE with the reads (especially the scums, besides Sooh) but I do find his notes getting there easy to follow and I appreciate that he even put up a list so early d1. Shows he's working to solve. @LENLO can you put up a more current and ordered list?  Do you still feel the same about Thane?


Because I feel like Lenlo's reasoning behind Rack and Thane definitely does not jive with his conclusions.  I wouldn't call it "easy to follow."

 

But over all, town points for Laine imo.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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Shad: I didn't have a particularly strong read on dice before he started interacting with Nomi so I have no clue what you are even talking about

 

I have his spurt from #516-529 as a mild plus because he's gauging and willing to be acerbic, but I have literally nothing before that even marked down. Laine didn't even think it was all that villager and I doubt I had enough confidence to make a read on that slot

 

His fight with Nomi starts at #836 so find me where I said something because I can't dive through on my mobile but i feel i'd remember that

Sili Quirrels Master

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Eh all i mean is whyd a town get upset with zander there after yates chastized him. Either its piggybacking yates or lenlo was genuinely annoyed by zanders arrgoant town attitude. Yet i dont see a reason y town len would take it personally since he didnt participate in that game or certainly not as a wolf.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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I think Lenlo's just a wolf. He was frustrated heavily throughout the game and I think he probably would have left PR hints or something like that, especially when he started suddenly getting run up at the end of d1.

 

I hate to be the "let's lynch the un-cc'd doc" guy and after lynching the cop last game I'm sort of nervous about the whole ordeal but I just feel like he wouldn't play this way as a doc-type role and this just feels like a "save myself" type hail mary.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I think we all can agree as a wolf theres nothing more upsetting rhabn an obnoxious and wrong townie.

 

If Lenlo is v I'm considering this a scumslip LDO

 

:flamingsword:

Sili Quirrels Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:23 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I think we all can agree as a wolf theres nothing more upsetting rhabn an obnoxious and wrong townie.

 

 

If Lenlo is v I'm considering this a scumslip LDO

 

:flamingsword:

Hold on. What are you talking about?

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:25 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:23 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I think we all can agree as a wolf theres nothing more upsetting rhabn an obnoxious and wrong townie.

 

If Lenlo is v I'm considering this a scumslip LDO

 

:flamingsword:

Hold on. What are you talking about?

 

 

Maybe I'm not reading correctly but Lenlo being upset at Zander for being an "obnoxious and wrong townie" as a wolf doesn't make sense

 

Zander would be an "obnoxious, correct townie", right?

 

Am I drunk at work?

Sili Quirrels Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:26 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:25 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:23 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I think we all can agree as a wolf theres nothing more upsetting rhabn an obnoxious and wrong townie.

 

 

If Lenlo is v I'm considering this a scumslip LDO

 

:flamingsword:

Hold on. What are you talking about?

 

Maybe I'm not reading correctly but Lenlo being upset at Zander for being an "obnoxious and wrong townie" as a wolf doesn't make sense

Zander would be an "obnoxious, correct townie", right?

 

 

Am I drunk at work?

Wrong about his reasoning and i was making a generalization.

Shad_ Spam Master

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  On 11/2/2015 at 8:08 PM, Hallia said:

It's your tone, Correh, that's off recently. You usually work with me, and you're so quick to just say I'm wolf and dismiss me this game. It's not like you. You stated that being normally a wolf tell for yourself in the past.

 

More of the thinking I associate with Hallia's town game.  Does anyone else remember this as a scum tell for Cory though?

Shad_ Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:15 PM, cory caboose said:

Shad: I didn't have a particularly strong read on dice before he started interacting with Nomi so I have no clue what you are even talking about

Checked and you are correct. Weird, I could have sworn I looked into that before. Well, never mind then.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:27 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/2/2015 at 8:08 PM, Hallia said:

It's your tone, Correh, that's off recently. You usually work with me, and you're so quick to just say I'm wolf and dismiss me this game. It's not like you. You stated that being normally a wolf tell for yourself in the past.

 

More of the thinking I associate with Hallia's town game.  Does anyone else remember this as a scum tell for Cory though?

 

I remember two times I wolfed against Hallia: the Usual Suspects game and the Mafia Mafia game

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/95247-advanced-the-usual-suspects-mafia-game-over-cops-win/

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1861

 

I don't remember TUS that well and that was a weird game but IIRC I mostly just tried to pocket her and defended her

 

 

In the Mafia Mafia game Darthe continually tried to lynch her (she was Town Motivator) and I constantly and angrily defended her

 

Much more likely to pocket her as a wolf and if you want embarassing honestly she's someone I'd struggle to push as w/v just because I'm fond of her and have trouble pushing people I like a lot in Mafia games. I also stubbornly defend her as v/v when I have a read on her because she can be mislynch fodder for her playstyle

 

I can think of a few games where she was w and I was v and I never really gained traction on her because while I didn't have her as a villager I wasn't willing to push her and didn't live long enough to come around on her slot

 

Off the top of my head:

 

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1836

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1819

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:29 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Like if u r v cory and i tunneled u i think the wolves wld apppreciate not hate me.

 

Who was Lenlo mad at besides Zander

 

I'm missing what you are saying, can you rephrase?

Cory Caboose Spam Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:31 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:15 PM, cory caboose said:

Shad: I didn't have a particularly strong read on dice before he started interacting with Nomi so I have no clue what you are even talking about

Checked and you are correct. Weird, I could have sworn I looked into that before. Well, never mind then.

 

I'd roll my eyes at you if you weren't doing good work this game

 

I forgive you

Sili Quirrels Master

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  On 11/3/2015 at 8:37 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 8:29 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Like if u r v cory and i tunneled u i think the wolves wld apppreciate not hate me.

 

 

Who was Lenlo mad at besides Zander

 

 

I'm missing what you are saying, can you rephrase?

Dunno.my pnt is minor and simple. Len took z's arrogance personally and im having trouble seeing why.

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