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What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

 

:tongue:

 

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

 

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

 

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

 

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

 

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

 

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

 

Why would you all of a suddenly think you are a RBer? 

 

Lol, I didn't suddenly think this. I hinted that I had a role that doesn't return results when I was thinking about my Loki theory.

 

It appears to me that I have no other choice but to reveal what I think.

 

 

He asked you several other questions in the post you quoted, Wish.

 

Sorry, which questions?

 

 

The ones you cut out.

 

See my quote of his full reply a couple of minutes ago.

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How about we chill on theory crafting Loki and focus on lynching? Theory crafting with no info is useless imo and only distracts.

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How about we chill on theory crafting Loki and focus on lynching? Theory crafting with no info is useless imo and only distracts.

Well, we can probably ascertain tomorrow what the likelyhood is ocicat is loki based on how many are killed. if only one person dies, then likely dice targetted loki and it backfired. or if 2 ppl die then we might assume john snow is loki because celeste claims to be a rb.

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What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

 

:tongue:

 

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

 

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

 

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

 

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

 

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

 

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

WOAH WOAH WOAH

 

What? Where does this come from?

 

First how do you know your a RB? Second how can you guarantee Loki had a kill? Third how do you know your block, if you have any, went through on JS?

 

There's to many whats, to many questions, to many speculations with no barring in this post and I hate it.

 

I'm out right now, but when I get back I'll bring this up more and most likely vote uou. Just can't remember what the vote tags are right now

 

 

Excellent questions.

 

Why assume Loki has a kill?  Why does it eat at you that nobody pointed it out when it was "so obvious to you"?  It's not obvious at all in the theme here, in fact, it was pointed by others earlier that it's probably a better match with the theme for him NOT to.

 

Did I say he was Loki? I said he could either be Loki or scum.

 

I would expect for 3P to have a kill, so I was surprised when N1 there were only 2 kills.

 

In terms of balance, it would make more sense, imo.

 

1. I researched my character. It's against the rules to character claim, so I won't, but I was convinced before the end of D1 that it was a RB role. That's why I targeted John Snow, one of my scum reads.

2. I can't guarantee it, but it makes sense to me, especially after I did some research on my own character.

3. I don't know this either. I told you that this was a last minute save, and it probably won't even work. It might have been redirected.

4. I could also not have a role, but this is unlikely given the character I have.

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What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

 

:tongue:

 

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

 

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

 

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

 

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

 

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

 

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

 

Why would you all of a suddenly think you are a RBer? 

 

Lol, I didn't suddenly think this. I hinted that I had a role that doesn't return results when I was thinking about my Loki theory.

 

It appears to me that I have no other choice but to reveal what I think.

 

 

He asked you several other questions in the post you quoted, Wish.

 

Sorry, which questions?

 

 

The ones you cut out.

 

See my quote of his full reply a couple of minutes ago.

 

Oh, replied down there. :tongue:

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Slot of these Loki theories on who is who seems pretty loose imo.

 

Can someone get them in full? Like whole arguement?

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Lenlo, make up your mind, yo. Why don't you like the focus on the Loki theories atm? Why are you now moving along with the tone of the thread and now agreeing to focus on them if only someone would consolidate them?

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Slot of these Loki theories on who is who seems pretty loose imo.

 

Can someone get them in full? Like whole arguement?

Mine is pretty simple.

 

Mafia likely killed Cory, and the vig didn't target dice since Dice was the vig. What Dice was, was a commonly town read entity to a serial killer, and the serial killer might have thought to him or herself, Dice is a safe kill.

 

Or, Dice's bullet was reflected.

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Ok. Why are people voting us? Reasons please because I'm not quite understanding this. Is it because you think we are Loki or something else?

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Slot of these Loki theories on who is who seems pretty loose imo.

Can someone get them in full? Like whole arguement?

 

Mine is pretty simple.

 

Mafia likely killed Cory, and the vig didn't target dice since Dice was the vig. What Dice was, was a commonly town read entity to a serial killer, and the serial killer might have thought to him or herself, Dice is a safe kill.

 

Or, Dice's bullet was reflected.

Dice had some suspicion on him though. How does that make him a safe kill?
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Lenlo, make up your mind, yo. Why don't you like the focus on the Loki theories atm? Why are you now moving along with the tone of the thread and now agreeing to focus on them if only someone would consolidate them?

I don't want to focus on the theories. What I wanted to know was the theories about why people thought JS/Ocicat were Loki.

 

I don't care about the theories about what he can do.

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Slot of these Loki theories on who is who seems pretty loose imo.

 

Can someone get them in full? Like whole arguement?

Mine is pretty simple.

 

Mafia likely killed Cory, and the vig didn't target dice since Dice was the vig. What Dice was, was a commonly town read entity to a serial killer, and the serial killer might have thought to him or herself, Dice is a safe kill.

 

Or, Dice's bullet was reflected.

 

Mine is similar. A few situations are likely, but these are the ones that fit the best.

 

Scenario A: in which my roleblock worked, but was redirected.

1. Mafia killed Cory (universal town read).

2. Dice (who Cory and some others had reservations on) was shot by John Snow.

3. I was redirected to roleblock Dice instead.

 

Scenario B: in which my roleblock worked and was not redirected.

1. Mafia killed Cory.

2. Dice targeted someone else, but his bullet was reflected.

3. I roleblocked John Snow.

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Slot of these Loki theories on who is who seems pretty loose imo.

Can someone get them in full? Like whole arguement?

Mine is pretty simple.

 

Mafia likely killed Cory, and the vig didn't target dice since Dice was the vig. What Dice was, was a commonly town read entity to a serial killer, and the serial killer might have thought to him or herself, Dice is a safe kill.

 

Or, Dice's bullet was reflected.

Dice had some suspicion on him though. How does that make him a safe kill?

 

Agreed, for once. XD

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Wish those theories just seem so convolutwd. They require a lot of assumptions on your part to be right.

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Wish those theories just seem so convolutwd. They require a lot of assumptions on your part to be right.

 

Cogito ergo sum.

 

Anything is possible. As I said, I have more information about myself than anyone else in this game atm (besides the two dead flips). That is why I have made the assumptions I've made, no?

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Wish those theories just seem so convolutwd. They require a lot of assumptions on your part to be right.

 

Cogito ergo sum.

 

Anything is possible. As I said, I have more information about myself than anyone else in this game atm (besides the two dead flips). That is why I have made the assumptions I've made, no?

 

How is this helpful, Wish? 

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Yeah expect you have no way of knowing I'd they are correct with, imo, not enough to go on make a good guess.

 

Least not if you have the same amount of info any other town would have.

 

The whole RB and assuming your block went through or just happened to hit someone using a kill is silly to me. And how can you say there are 3 kills in the game without any extra knowledge?

 

It's all rather poor imo

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