[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Forgot Shad for my earlier comment - he's clear too.

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Yes and I still have no effing clue how things got turned around on me I'll need to do some rereading tonight and respond properly so that I can survive tomorrow
you never answered me, and clov post. when sili points out it was misleading It just didn't feel right.
I think we made the right choice

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because I feel that leelou would flip wolf more than alanna. for the most part I have liked alannas game, the only time I was doubting her was towards eod.

I am happy with the final decision I made

sounds like you're covering your ass in case she flips town.

Tht was literally one post of mine that wasn't up to par and I had trouble defending after that bc of RL. After all te crap you've spewed this game I would think you'd understand

Quoting these again for reasons

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Still willing to keep lynching hydras until we hit scum, if anyone is up for it, I'll be here.
Just gonna summarize posts of today to wrap my head around it all, I need to respond to quite a few things anyways
This is PART ONE

Darthe votes me for chameleon post, Wombat shrugs it off
@Seph: This is irrelevant now, but since I actually ended up voting Leelou, I guess you could say Leelou. I thought it less likely that Heart was wolf at that point, but knew that ones flip would give information about the other, still was getting a scum read on both. So maybe not w/w but w/t in one combination or another
@Clov: Never said they were mafia together, but separately they were both pinging me for their actions d1.
@Darthe: That's because I don't tunnel often. Btw, I hate this post of yours. You make it seem like I've had no original thoughts all freaking game.

people who are not getting lynched today:
sili eldrick alanna

I <3 you Zander

Darthe's town reads become Seph Eldrick Yates Clov
Both Clov and Womby latch onto Darthe's turn on me

Current Vote Count at this point:

Seph   (1): NB
Durin   (2): Dice, CS
Leelou (3): AH, Shad, Zander
AHeart (1): Eldrick
Sooh   (1): Talya
NBob   (2): Clov, Seph
WombJ(1): Leelou
Zander (1): Sili
Laine    (2): Durin, WombJ
Not Voting: Laine, Verbane, Yates, Sooh,

Laine did seem to have a wolf lean on AH before now. It was part of why I didn't like her play.

I'm not sure if I asked this, Wombat how does having a wolf lean on Heart make you not like my play?

Zander's WTL: Leelou, Seph, Csarmi
Wombat WTL: Laine, AH, Sili, Leelou
Apologies to Seph for ignoring your posts. I was driving at that point and really wasn't reading every post as I should have been doing, I did answer it at the top of this WoT though
Darthe thinks Leelou is a bad lynch

I'm not tracking Darthe's argument for Laine. Laine's the reason I started getting suspicious of Leelou in the first place. She could have been more explicit about AH. Actually yeah, let's start there. Laine, lay out your reason for wanting to lynch AH.

Darthe votes AH after Wombat says he didn't like my posts about AH or AJ/Seph; "Dislike doesn't equate to wolf wombat" I'm rather curious about Darthe's thoughts on me at this point, but I'm not sure I want to hear them
Wombat clarifies that my play is mildly wolfy...

Current Vote Count at this point:

Seph   (1): NB
Durin   (2): Dice, CS
Leelou (3): AH, Shad, Zander
AHeart (2): Eldrick, Durin
Sooh   (1): Talya
NBob   (2): Clov, Seph
WombJ(1): Leelou
Zander (1): Sili
Laine    (1): WombJ
Not Voting: Laine, Verbane, Yates, Sooh,

Darthe jumps to Thane/Verbal vote; tells Wombat to stop with Sili sus bc he's not getting lynched today

I think we find a wolf in heart/leelou
I wouldn't mind voting thaneballs
can darthe and zander give me thoughts on notbob please?
[unvote]

Uhhhh???? So I get flack for saying Heart Leelou were my WTL today but you jump on it after questioning me about it? wtf

(discussion on Verbal/Thane slot)
(p93) Wombat doesn't think Verbal is wolfy this game
Sili Unvote

This was my explanation for voting Leelou. AH was null imo until her last post. Whether you want to read that one as incredibly scummy or just incredibly poorly worded is up to you. I can appreciate both but I'm siding with the latter for now.

Yeah, that last post made me question my opposition to the AH train. Leelou kind of hates inactives, so although I don't think her going after AH is productive, I'm not sure it is scummy. I have Leelou as largely null atm but it's looking like I might have to vote a null read =\

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

PART TWO

Clov post under spoiler

I cannot suggest strongly enough that you all ISO alannalynn and ctrl + f "Leelou" "AH" and "Heart" to see what I am talking about.

Saving this for when jone

I still have to check about Heart, but her claim that she had an early scumread on Leelou checks out. Not everything here, but enough to back up what she said.

/snip/

[v]Leelou[/v] because it's how I show love

More thoughts after I get home from work tomorrow

below contradicts bolded above:

Oh and btw--I expect to have things to give thoughts on in 18ish hours when I get off from work. If not I'll be disappointed in you all.

Seems like you are trying to save face here. Your first post looks like you came in and didn't read, but posted anyways. Then you stuck around a bit and posted saying you are current.

Shad, not bad. Definitely better first post than in my game.

Sooh has a bland opening post. Don't like her mentioning of pulling a Heart but not saying anything. Means that she at least glanced at the thread but has nothing to add.

/snip/

At this point, could vote Heart or Sooh. Possibly Seph. I've only seen him as mafia. How is he as town?

Actually I thought Sooh's opening was a lot better than Heart's because Sooh knew Heart's had drawn negative attention from me but did a similar thing anyway.

Also, Heart's opening is bad because after only 3 pages she implies has thoughts to share,which means she's feeling very self-conscious. What she said is what people say after at least 30 pages in my experience.

In contrast Sooh said she would catch up after she got back, which is a lot more natural.

I just didn't like that Sooh drew attention to something negative that she saw was going on and posted similarly. Her saying she would catch up when she gets back is better than what Heart said, but it also has implications that she is caught up and added nothing.

Good morning everyone.

You were busy last night!

Going to pull a Heart and tell you I'll catch up after work. See you then!
It's not negative attention

Heart was/is getting negative attention.

Laine - I didn't say it was drawing negative attention to Heart. Heart was already getting negative attention and Sooh said - "pulling a Heart" - in her post. To me it shows that she has some knowledge of what was going on in the thread and didn't comment on anything & use something that was getting negative attention in her post. I might not be explaining it the best as to what is going through my head.

But you did. Above, in the blue. There was really nothing wrong with Sooh's post, but you're willing to vote either of them? I'm just seeing a disconnect here.

I'm also, and on a separate note, taking the stance of defending people with busy lives.

@Leelou: Probably just a disconnect in how I'm reading it then. I read it as you calling out Sooh for drawing extra attention to Heart's op which was already getting attention from Sili and Darthe.

<3 Leelou
My work is getting busy too. I'm pretty dang angry I have to work overtime Sunday

@ Alanna- you continue with your epic townyness from last game. thank you for not crushing my soul!

@ Sooh- Your trending towny for me is this a breakthrough or should i be worried???!!!

@ everyone some reads would certainly be a good thing!
Nah, someone will certainly find fault somewhere lol

Don't have any full reads until the weekend, but I'm liking Eldrick, Shad, Zander, Leelou, NotBob, Mawt.
Not liking as much: Seph, Durin, Dice, Womdrej
Everyone else null or I just forgot you.

<3 Leelou
My work is getting busy too. I'm pretty dang angry I have to work overtime Sunday

@ Alanna- you continue with your epic townyness from last game. thank you for not crushing my soul!

@ Sooh- Your trending towny for me is this a breakthrough or should i be worried???!!!

@ everyone some reads would certainly be a good thing!
Nah, someone will certainly find fault somewhere lol

Don't have any full reads until the weekend, but I'm liking Eldrick, Shad, Zander, Leelou, NotBob, Mawt.
Not liking as much: Seph, Durin, Dice, Womdrej
Everyone else null or I just forgot you.

Alanna can you please explain your read on Leelou for me? I have her null to slight wolf lean. She jumped on Sooh and AH's first couple posts. She since backed off of Sooh but has not left the AH train, I am also not a fan of low vote count and can kinda see her views on AH when she explained them but it almost seems kinda fixated on a whole lotta nothing imo.

This is what freaking happens when I mix up names. I meant to have Sooh there, Leelou should be in my second line because I still have a weird feeling about our interactions yesterday on the Sooh/AH thing. Sooh, overall though has looked good for me, I just needed that clarification on Eldrick which she already responded to.

Leelou's placement on that third one jumped out to me, since this all stemmed from her claim of an early scum read. Fourth one is a plausible enough explanation that I don't think it's some super obvious slip or anything (though I'd have to do more homework to see if the rest of the reads check out).

I like Zander asking her for clarification though, because the placement of Leelou on the townlist definitely clashed with Alanna's play this game.

Quoted bc I liked it, actually
Darthe Unvotes, votes Talya

Current Vote Count at this point:

Seph   (1): NB
Durin   (2): Dice, CS
Leelou (3): AH, Shad, Zander
AHeart (2): Eldrick,
Sooh   (1): Talya
NBob   (1): Clov,
WombJ(1): Leelou
Laine    (1): WombJ
Talya    (1): Durin
Not Voting: Laine, Verbane, Yates, Sooh, Sili, Seph

@ Clov: I already responded to this: I like the posts in general, but it's been crap this game. I really think you were just misunderstanding what I was saying (see other WoT I did before)
Clov Votes Alanna
Darthe Votes Alanna

Laine CFD gogogo

:dry:

I am fine with alanna, she has been weird the past few days, and ditching this close to eod when she was catching heat, seems like she was hoping to skate by here.
[v] alanna[/v]

I hate Seph's reason most of all.

Hallia, can we get a vote count while I stare at Laine's posts and decide if I want to do a 360 on her?

The only thing that was rubbing me wrong about her before Clov's post was that she's been super-nice to me ever since I called her town.

Shad you're letting them get in your head here, STAHP
Think for yourself

I finally am able to VOTE Leelou

Current Vote Count at this point:

Seph   (1): NB
Durin   (2): Dice, CS
Leelou (4): AH, Shad, Alanna, Zander
AHeart (1): Eldrick,
Sooh   (1): Talya
WombJ(1): Leelou
Laine    (4): WombJ, Clov, Durin, Seph
Not Voting: , Verbane, Yates, Sooh, Sili,

PG 96: Sili has logic- of course I wasn't talking about a summary post that didn't exist, Clov catches on, I think finally
Shad Unvotes
Seph Unvotes
Sili: not sure if he's defending me here or not?
Darthe still pushing my train (I'm at 3 votes: Wombat, Clov, Darthe)

I liked shad's case on leelou, but I am still uneasy on him tbh

Case?

I think I'm lead train now. Go Laine or something, this is as right as we are gonna get

[unvote] [v]Laine[/v] Happy?

Then this post happens and Zander calls it out *highfive*

@ CLOV because I was referencing a post that Darthe made about SOOH's list being crap. So I said that I generally liked the posts that Sooh and Heart made because they were helpful. After that happened, Heart posted a reads/summary list that was AWFUL and I called her out on it.

Darthe finally takes control, votes Leelou
Shad follows and votes Leelou
Nobody giving VC, Darthe not being entirely helpful lol
Heart has a somewhat A+ post to help me out with Clov's confusion
Sili votes Alanna
(pg 100) Shad says he didn't expect this from Sili
XX Clov finally concedes somewhat thanks to Heart <3
Seph and Wombat vote Leelou

Current Vote Count at this point:

Seph   (1): NB
Durin   (2): Dice, CS
Leelou (7): AH, Alanna, Zander, Durin, Shad, Seph, Womdrej
AHeart (1): Eldrick,
Sooh   (1): Talya
Laine   (3): Clov, Leelou, Sili
Not Voting: Verbane, Yates, Sooh

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Okay Mynd.

Sili Quirrels · June 20, 2015

I have a list with me so I can check who is with who.

I was going to vote joke AJ because he wanted to be JarJar, but CS has claimed him.

I saw Dice's vote and thought it was a joke. He quoted Turin's peek on Darthe, seems obvious. Null on Dice.

Tunnelling by wombyAJ - don't get this.

I think Seph is trying to do what others have done in games I've seen.

The only thing that pings slightly is that he KNOWS Durin is town...could be him still pushing his peek, but no one else has done this.

Sili - liking so far and have agreed with some of his stu

ff, where are the vote switches?

Alanna, heart, Sooh, Thane, Eld all at null

Shad - liking his posts more control to them (being mentored) - feeling a town lean

Durin - no bloody idea, different Darthe to last two games, but I saw boredom there last time - Darthe feels towny, Turin - null

AwombyJ - don't like the tunnelling on Seph, AJ looked like he was looking for an excuse to vote Seph w/w?

Turin and Darthe ARE Durin.....
I know, which is why I thought yours was a joke vote, because that was obviously a joke

U know dice?

Describe ur personality type? Intuitve or analytical that is.

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Leelou's reads lists

Townie clump

Salami

Sili

Laine

Sooh

Dice

Eldrick

NotBob

ThaneBalls32

Null clump

Yates

Talya

Shad

Zander

Maw

Durin

Wombocombo

Scummy clump

Seph

Aiel <3

I need to read through my nulls in ISO. I should be able to get to it this afternoon, definitely before deadline. I am going out to dinner tonight, so I won't be around for deadline. I'll be shutting my phone off at 6:30 and probably won't be home until about 11 EDT.

Townie leans
Salami - claimed Jar Jar - hated

Dice
Sili
Laine

Yates
Talya
Eldrick

Sooh

NotBob
ThaneBalls32

Zander

Null
Shad
Maw

Scummy leans

Aiel <3

Wombocombo

Durin

Seph

I am going to [unvote] for now. I feel slightly better about Heart, not thrilled with her vote though and a few of her reasonings. I want to mull over my scum leans before voting again.

People who feel out of place to me? CS Yates Talya Sooh NB Verbane

Sili Quirrels · June 20, 2015

@ Alanna so as have as Csarmi you believe his claims?

I still dont get why he claims hated there. he was in no way shape or form in any trouble nor was there any doubts cast upon him, The char claim is fine if its part of his meta.

Because he has this annoying habit of claiming in his first few posts. I hate it.

Is this spew?

Sili Quirrels · June 20, 2015

Leelou might be bussing sooh for cred early on. I cant tell but her logic is kind of fuzzy and might indicate the use of inside knowledge. One of sooh or ah has a good chance. I will try to look harder at them.

Sili Quirrels · June 20, 2015

K am heading in.

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Thru pg 24.

20% and going strong

I just didn't like that Sooh drew attention to something negative that she saw was going on and posted similarly. Her saying she would catch up when she gets back is better than what Heart said, but it also has implications that she is caught up and added nothing.

Further evidence to clear Sooh imo.

I have Sili and Talya as villager leans.

#Darthe - I've asked earlier - is this par for the course for Darthe lately (namely the quick push and minicasing).

Decent post. I can agree with Sili, probably not so much on Tayla and you may turn out right on Darthe after all before this is all said and done.

went back and reread Sili's post town reading him,

also after rereading Csarmi and hearing others comment on his meta moving him to null. (the claim timing still pings me fwiw)

town-

Sili

Eldrick

Alanna

Shad

null-

Csarmi

wolf-

seph

@ Sili am i reading seph wrong?

Also not bad progression for this point of the game. Pretty confident keeping you as a villager moving forward.

But you did. Above, in the blue. There was really nothing wrong with Sooh's post, but you're willing to vote either of them? I'm just seeing a disconnect here.

I'm also, and on a separate note, taking the stance of defending people with busy lives.

Laine playing sharp, good to see. Looks especially good in hindsight with Leelou's flip and calling out her misrepping of AH here. Points for both those ladies.

alright, so.... re-reading a bit.. this entire Sooh/Heart/Leelou/Laine thing seems off for this early D1... perhaps it'll clarify later, when we hear more from Sooh, but.... it smells off....

Meh on this one. Could be TMI with the way he's burying Leelou in that grouping but wants to her more from Sooh.

[v]Seph[/v]

4realz?

yeah?

Seph looks scummy here.

lol

What I didn't like about the earlier post was AJ is making Up an out of game reason to Push Seph here. There is no town reason to do that.
Sidenote: AJ, your constant mentions of that other game are looking like preemptive cover for future actions.

If you are town, just stahp.

Lastly, please English only. I'm a 'Murican.

When did I ever say that I was voting Seph specifically for the last game? That isn't factual - that is YOUR spin on it. Quit making things up.

I just thought I'd respond to this, seeing as it has been a big topic of discussion. It was posted in jest, and I was unsure whether or not I should do it because I was a bit worried I would offend Heart, which was not my intention at all.

At the same time I was reading the thread at breakfast, but by the time I got to the end of it I had no more time to go in and post many thoughts of anything, so I just thought I'd let you know I was around, but that I wouldn't be able to make much of a contribution until after work.

Phew. A lot of explanation needed for what was only supposed to be a little joke. I hope we can put that behind us now and move on.

Villagery post. Sooh pretty firmly out of POE imo

the only implication is i don't see enough substance in aj's posts to warrant the amount of tunneling being done. Hell, he basically said at one point the only reason he was doing it was because he wasn't going to let what happened last game go.

I think I've seen better arguments for why Seph might be scum from people that aren't even AJ for crying out loud.

Yeah - there was no 'basically' anything. I at no point said that I wanted to lynch Seph for our last game or that it had anything to do with my vote on him.

Seph I meant your post as a whole.

I'm gonna ride you hard this game. No freebies like last time and I haven't even decided what I think your alignment is yet
Something not right about this post. I'm not sure what yet. I'm tired and will be off to sleep soon. Maybe I'll figure it out in the morning.

I think it's the whole interaction. A *LOT* of talk about American Gods that has no relavance to this game. I feel like one is playing the other. Seph is coming across as more pure, imo. Which sucks for me because I miss Ned... </3

Saddle up, muchacho. Again - the only thing I mentioned about the prior game was that I wouldn't give Seph a pass. He made a bad OP, I voted him. He made bad follow up posts, I challenged them. Plain and simple. This whole tunneling for OTT bit needs to end.

Thanks for this. Leelou pinged but I couldn't figure out why.

Noted.

Zander I'm gonna vig you so hard if you keep doing this.

I get what you were saying to Zander before, but what is this for? I didn't notice him say the same thing as you here, so please elaborate.
427 and 428

Ok, but I don't see the issue. Those 2 posts are the same exact minute, so your explanation before about how he was posting the same thing ~5 pages after you doesn't fit. And I don't even see how you guys were saying the same thing. Both were to seph, but it didn't appear to be the same thing.

Also, the way you are posting @ seph right now is just....weird. That and how you posted @ your hydra (which is why I asked for an explanation on that, btw) also seems weird to me. I dunno, I just feel like you're trying too hard to look like a villager, but with mixed results.

Seph talk to me. Now not later, I'm not tolerant

^ a good example of a post that just feels weird to me

Decent Verb post imo. Wasn't a huge fan of his OP but I can follow him here - not giving him a villager read for it but it doesn't come across in a bad way necessarily.

I disliked the w/w bit at the end. It's like if Seph goes down and flips wolf she's [Talya] already looking to tie him to someone else.

??? Wait. What???

If Seph goes down and flips wolf, isn't that EXACTLY what Town Talya should be doing? Finding Seph's wolf bros? Am I misreading something here??

In a generic sense, sure. The point I was making was that I didn't like the conclusion that she drew from it all. There's also a post that I quoted earlier where she is saying she could see me doing this to Seph as w/w OR because I thought Seph was a PR or something and I wanted to out him. Essentially - she's playing both sides and making me a wolf in either scenario which doesn't look good considering Seph was under fire at the time. Seph gets lynched, he flips whatever he is, and regardless she already has me lined up as her next suspect. Transparency at its finest.

Put a different way - immediately drawing a w/w conclusion doesn't seem natural to me. Perhaps I just have different ways of looking at the game, but for instance look at how others have regarded the interaction. Most think it looks negative of me, yourself included, and that Seph comes out looking better or sounds more pure or whatever. The more natural reaction, imo, would be that Seph and I are likely opposite alignments - not the same - especially as wolfbros distancing out of the gate. Make more sense now?

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Leelou might be bussing sooh for cred early on. I cant tell but her logic is kind of fuzzy and might indicate the use of inside knowledge. One of sooh or ah has a good chance. I will try to look harder at them.

Gunning for Leelou's early pushes is probably a goose chase imo. AH and Sooh were soft targets that she latched onto easily.

Granted - I'm seeing most of this with fresh eyes but I won't be voting either of them D2 from where I stand currently.

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Leelou might be bussing sooh for cred early on. I cant tell but her logic is kind of fuzzy and might indicate the use of inside knowledge. One of sooh or ah has a good chance. I will try to look harder at them.

I'm having trouble seeing Sooh there though; I did move her down a few slots because I was thinking the same thing, but I'm actually strangely getting a town read from her still

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Thru pg 24.

20% and going strong

I just didn't like that Sooh drew attention to something negative that she saw was going on and posted similarly. Her saying she would catch up when she gets back is better than what Heart said, but it also has implications that she is caught up and added nothing.

Further evidence to clear Sooh imo.

I have Sili and Talya as villager leans.

#Darthe - I've asked earlier - is this par for the course for Darthe lately (namely the quick push and minicasing).

Decent post. I can agree with Sili, probably not so much on Tayla and you may turn out right on Darthe after all before this is all said and done.

went back and reread Sili's post town reading him,

also after rereading Csarmi and hearing others comment on his meta moving him to null. (the claim timing still pings me fwiw)

town-

Sili

Eldrick

Alanna

Shad

null-

Csarmi

wolf-

seph

@ Sili am i reading seph wrong?

Also not bad progression for this point of the game. Pretty confident keeping you as a villager moving forward.

But you did. Above, in the blue. There was really nothing wrong with Sooh's post, but you're willing to vote either of them? I'm just seeing a disconnect here.

I'm also, and on a separate note, taking the stance of defending people with busy lives.

Laine playing sharp, good to see. Looks especially good in hindsight with Leelou's flip and calling out her misrepping of AH here. Points for both those ladies.

alright, so.... re-reading a bit.. this entire Sooh/Heart/Leelou/Laine thing seems off for this early D1... perhaps it'll clarify later, when we hear more from Sooh, but.... it smells off....

Meh on this one. Could be TMI with the way he's burying Leelou in that grouping but wants to her more from Sooh.

[v]Seph[/v]

4realz?

yeah?

Seph looks scummy here.

lol

What I didn't like about the earlier post was AJ is making Up an out of game reason to Push Seph here. There is no town reason to do that.
Sidenote: AJ, your constant mentions of that other game are looking like preemptive cover for future actions.

If you are town, just stahp.

Lastly, please English only. I'm a 'Murican.

When did I ever say that I was voting Seph specifically for the last game? That isn't factual - that is YOUR spin on it. Quit making things up.

I just thought I'd respond to this, seeing as it has been a big topic of discussion. It was posted in jest, and I was unsure whether or not I should do it because I was a bit worried I would offend Heart, which was not my intention at all.

At the same time I was reading the thread at breakfast, but by the time I got to the end of it I had no more time to go in and post many thoughts of anything, so I just thought I'd let you know I was around, but that I wouldn't be able to make much of a contribution until after work.

Phew. A lot of explanation needed for what was only supposed to be a little joke. I hope we can put that behind us now and move on.

Villagery post. Sooh pretty firmly out of POE imo

the only implication is i don't see enough substance in aj's posts to warrant the amount of tunneling being done. Hell, he basically said at one point the only reason he was doing it was because he wasn't going to let what happened last game go.

I think I've seen better arguments for why Seph might be scum from people that aren't even AJ for crying out loud.

Yeah - there was no 'basically' anything. I at no point said that I wanted to lynch Seph for our last game or that it had anything to do with my vote on him.

Seph I meant your post as a whole.

I'm gonna ride you hard this game. No freebies like last time and I haven't even decided what I think your alignment is yet

Something not right about this post. I'm not sure what yet. I'm tired and will be off to sleep soon. Maybe I'll figure it out in the morning.

I think it's the whole interaction. A *LOT* of talk about American Gods that has no relavance to this game. I feel like one is playing the other. Seph is coming across as more pure, imo. Which sucks for me because I miss Ned... </3

Saddle up, muchacho. Again - the only thing I mentioned about the prior game was that I wouldn't give Seph a pass. He made a bad OP, I voted him. He made bad follow up posts, I challenged them. Plain and simple. This whole tunneling for OTT bit needs to end.

Thanks for this. Leelou pinged but I couldn't figure out why.

Noted.

Zander I'm gonna vig you so hard if you keep doing this.

I get what you were saying to Zander before, but what is this for? I didn't notice him say the same thing as you here, so please elaborate.

427 and 428

Ok, but I don't see the issue. Those 2 posts are the same exact minute, so your explanation before about how he was posting the same thing ~5 pages after you doesn't fit. And I don't even see how you guys were saying the same thing. Both were to seph, but it didn't appear to be the same thing.

Also, the way you are posting @ seph right now is just....weird. That and how you posted @ your hydra (which is why I asked for an explanation on that, btw) also seems weird to me. I dunno, I just feel like you're trying too hard to look like a villager, but with mixed results.

Seph talk to me. Now not later, I'm not tolerant

^ a good example of a post that just feels weird to me

Decent Verb post imo. Wasn't a huge fan of his OP but I can follow him here - not giving him a villager read for it but it doesn't come across in a bad way necessarily.

I disliked the w/w bit at the end. It's like if Seph goes down and flips wolf she's [Talya] already looking to tie him to someone else.

??? Wait. What???

If Seph goes down and flips wolf, isn't that EXACTLY what Town Talya should be doing? Finding Seph's wolf bros? Am I misreading something here??

In a generic sense, sure. The point I was making was that I didn't like the conclusion that she drew from it all. There's also a post that I quoted earlier where she is saying she could see me doing this to Seph as w/w OR because I thought Seph was a PR or something and I wanted to out him. Essentially - she's playing both sides and making me a wolf in either scenario which doesn't look good considering Seph was under fire at the time. Seph gets lynched, he flips whatever he is, and regardless she already has me lined up as her next suspect. Transparency at its finest.

Put a different way - immediately drawing a w/w conclusion doesn't seem natural to me. Perhaps I just have different ways of looking at the game, but for instance look at how others have regarded the interaction. Most think it looks negative of me, yourself included, and that Seph comes out looking better or sounds more pure or whatever. The more natural reaction, imo, would be that Seph and I are likely opposite alignments - not the same - especially as wolfbros distancing out of the gate. Make more sense now?

Point on the Thane quote, AJ, he never came back to that even though I mentioned it. I found it odd that he was "waiting for Sooh" but never came back to it. Could be nothing, but I thought I'd go ahead and mention it

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Shad looks very villagery on pg 25. I'm impressed - good sense of confidence in his reads and how he expresses himself. If he's a wolf, he's got gonads of steel.

The chick avatar sort of throws me off though, but that's unrelated.

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Seph stop being so dang reactive, I think you're town and I think you're going to get yourself killed in spite of it.

Shad you're more confident than last game. If that's your thing then cool but keep in mind that it's still early.

:dry:

Literally the first post on pg 26.

Andrej · June 20, 2015

Followed by Laine and Wombat also agreeing on pg 26. Clearly I am just reiterating old news... I'll just wait until I finish another block before posting anymore lol :rolleyes:

Sili Quirrels · June 20, 2015

Basically im saying it might have sounded better to leelou because she knew the end result... Or not. But the sooh is better than heart was a spin lee felt the need to make and how she kept to it but didnt add to the pillar to my knowlege and raised sooh to a town read is at least curious to me.

That said... Havent read any of sooh.

I

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Andrej I missed playing with you haha

Sili, I'm working my way through my list atm, it's killing my eyes, I haven't slept enough

csarmi · June 20, 2015

Laine, I thought you were kidding earlier about the hydras. I'm willing to hit AlannaLynns till we find a wolf.

csarmi · June 20, 2015

If anyone up for it, let me know.

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Laine, I thought you were kidding earlier about the hydras. I'm willing to hit AlannaLynns till we find a wolf.

If anyone up for it, let me know.

:unsure: Maybe kidding a little. But not entirely.

csarmi · June 20, 2015

Laine, I thought you were kidding earlier about the hydras. I'm willing to hit AlannaLynns till we find a wolf.

If anyone up for it, let me know.
Maybe kidding a little. But not entirely.

Also happy to switch lanes and lunch Laines.

Andrej · June 20, 2015

The WomboCombo is like Laine's kryponite, man.

She couldn't lynch us.

alannalynn · June 20, 2015

Csarmi, only be worried if I actually follow through and start going after the hydras, okay?

Andrej, I'm sure I could find a way, though I'd probably get lynched in the process

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