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Eldrick4221 · June 26, 2015

I don't know why I'm up so early (for me). I woke up after only 6 hours of sleep. I'm going back to bed, even though I don't feel tired.

Talya · June 26, 2015

#4572 @ Talya in a mafia QT when she was scum when they were throwing out people they’d want to get rid of early and Leelou had listed both of us because we know her well and can read her. Can not for the life of me tell you what game that was though… I want to say it was recent as the memory seems fresh but maybe that’s a random file that stayed from long ago…?[/size]

#4574 @ Laine—“acting cleared” as in acting confident and leading. “Cruising” I’m having a harder time defining. Like when you’re cruising in a car—keep going on with the speed you have and letting the game play out itself for the time somewhat? Idk it’s a good thing. You’re using the momentum you have. I’m not describing it well.

#4582 @ Sili re not sure how I feel about you saying what Yates “usually” does—to be honest, I don’t know what I was referring to either. I can’t find anything referring to it in my notes on you… If I find it I’ll let you know. Otherwise it might be misattributed

#4633 @ Laine just because I trust you doesn’t mean I trust your reads to be correct. Town =/= correct and you know that

#4653 @Laine—you said you were comparing people’s lists. Did this turn up anything interesting?

#4689 quoted from Yates

And I was wrong. Sili was not around. So then the next question is; does Thaneballs try to pull a fake claim like this without his scumbuddy around? Probably not. So this could be a good thing in Sooh, AH and Wombo's favor since they weren't around either...

Zander noted that they might have just claimed because the end was quick. Additionally, we seem to be in agreement that there are most likely two scum left, which doesn’t necessarily clear any of us you listed.

re #4711 Wombat pressuring Eldrick still willing to lynch Sooh but voting Wombat--maybe I'm just not following what you're saying there correctly, but if there are two mafia left (circa my last response) and he thinks ONE of them is between me and the two of you, then why shouldn't he still be looking at Sooh? You can change your mind on who is the better option...

Oh and re:my activity--thought I would be far more active. My grandma usually just leaves me behind and goes places when I stay with her. This time she's taking me with her, and I'm not going to skip out on that for mafia, though I do regret my time away from the game. I'm here and staying caught up.

Would like to hear from Sooh before I put a vote on her, and will be around again before EoD.

Here, wants to hear from Sooh before voting...doesn't mean much.

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

That sucks. I do think dice is a peek. Laine insisted yesterday.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

VOTE COUNT! END OF DAY 1!

Seph(1): NotBob

Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi

Leelou(7): Aiel Heart, Zander, Laine, Durin, Shad, Seph, Wombat

Aiel Heart(1): Eldrick

Sooh(1): Talya

Laine(3): Clovdyx, Leelou, Sili

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Yates, Sooh

Leelou has been lynched! She was The Emperor, Mafia Godfather.

Hallia will do the write-up when she's back on.

It is now NIGHT 1!

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Yates(2): Talya, WomboCombo

Thaneballs32(6): Laine, AielHeart, Sili, Eldrick, Zander, NotBob

WomboCombo(1): Yates

Thaneballs32 is at L-2

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Sooh, Dice, Shad, Seph, Csarmi

It is Day 2. With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is set for Tuesday, June 23rd at 7pm PST. Countdown Timer

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Sooh(7): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick, Zander, Yates

Aiel Heart(1): Dice

Eldrick(1): Csarmi

Not Voting: Laine, Aiel Heart

Sooh has been lynched! She was Jabba the Hut, Mafia 1x Janitor.

Scene when Hallia gets back online. It is now Night 3, send in your PMs!

LOOK YATES NOT ONE THE FIRST 2 TRAINS. THEN ONLY DROPS THE HAMMER ON SOOH WHEN HE A) KNOWS ITS OVER TO GAIN SOME CRED AND B) AFTER HE KNOWS SHE QUITS!!!

YATES IS A WOLF!

Zander? · June 26, 2015

at least Heart is on 2 of the trains.

Talya · June 26, 2015

Now from Sooh...

Sili – reactive to everything and everyone. Asks good questions. I can follow his thought process easily. I feel like this is very towny of him. He follows the game a lot in real time and asks for clarifications, which I feel is a towny thing to do.

Durin – Darthe-half: scum reads Seph and AH. Turin half: kinda scum reads AJ – not on the same page just yet in terms of reads. Need more time to peg.

Alannalynn – All over the page in terms of reads. Makes good observations and good points. No conclusion

Thaneballs – Thane: Joking, fluffy. Doesn't like Csarmi's claim. Doesn't like Sooh/Leelou/Heart/Laine thing D1. Verbal: Light hearted, soft defending Zander from Darthe.

Overall I like the light tone. I feel like the hydra confuses me, and I feel like I can't really pinpoint if this means either alignment yet.

Leelou – Comes in, guns blazing. Calls Seph awkward. Doesn't like heart. Calls my intro bland but is comfortable voting me. Mellows out after a while. Seems towny. I can't really explain it better. I like her points on Seph and Heart and I can understand her critizism of me from the way she explained she read my post.

Zander – jokey, comments on EVERYTHING. He seems interested in solving. Interested in hearing about metas from different people. Critical to Csarmi's claim. Don't have much to go on in terms of scum meta. Don't know how that would differ from regular, but this seems like free, uncensored Zander. He doesn't seem to be hindering himself in posting. I feel like that's a good sign for Town!Zander, but I don't have much to compare it to. I was mafia with him in that turbo, but that wasn't a good sample I don't think. He did sheep my reads though, so if he's doing that now that might be a sign. Somehow I doubt it though.

Eldrick – Comes in very critical to everyone and everything said. Questions Dice on his vote. Comments AH has a bad opening, but calls it typical. FOSes Wombat. Calls me buddying to AH. Votes WomboCombo. He seems very reactive to just about everything in the thread. I seem to remember him having about the same opening in his last game when he was town, but he also seems to want to throw shade on just about everyone in case they are

Talya – Doesn't like Seph being tunelled by AJ. Doesn't like Dice's vote on Durin. Hints at a WomboCombo/Seph scum team I believe. I may be reading that wrong. Not much to go on, and Talya always seems to confuse me. Don't know where to lean here.

To sum up:

Sili - towny

Durin - null/unsure

Alannalynn - null

Thaneballs - null/slight town lean

Leelou - towny

Zander - towny

Eldrick - null/scum

Talya - null

I'll get you the rest of my reads/leans tomorrow well before EOD.

Talya · June 26, 2015

Alanna has gone up on her list

Well I like you, but I already did that in my last reads list... lol.

I am liking recent conversation with Alannalynn also.

You were talking about Dice/Durin. I don't like Dice's initial vote, and he also seems to solely focus on Durin atm. Durin on the other hand didn't have the greatest reaction to pressure, but I'll say that they have kept giving reads on others while under pressure.

*the YOU I refer to here is Zander.

lol i got who you meant here!! Question about bold. Are you like both of as town, the content of the conversation, the general tone or some sort of combination of the 3 or something else all together?

Yeah I like both as town. Alannalynn has trended up for me since yesterday.

@ Alanna and Sooh I may missed it or just forgot but your thoughts on seph?

I haven't really talked about Seph yet. He's one of those I have yet to read thoroughly. I did notice his having a hard time in early game, but I think I owe him to take a real look at it and not just jump to conclusions if that makes sense?

Pretty clear on Zander as well.

Sooh are we lunching Zander? What's the juru say on that?

If I'm the jury the jury says no. If Zander is not town I'm not seeing it. In fact, to me he is almost as clear as he was in Mass Effect. Why are you not liking Zander?

Her view on Seph...now looking slightly wolf to her

I just read Seph in ISO. He very much reads flustered and defensive. I have played with Seph as wolf before, but he wasn't under much pressure so I can't really compare the two. I would like to see Seph making more reads on people if I am to believe that he is town. So far he's leaning wolf to me. I may place my vote there later after I've looked at some of the others.

Shad town lean and WomboAJ Null.

Shad – Shad is a thoughtful player who has reasonable reasons for all his reads. He makes a lot of sense in what he does, and he doesn't have much meta to go on yet, so his reads are pure. I can't see him as scum when his reads and his thoughts are so well explained. He seems a lot like his previous game. I like him as towny so far.

WomboCombo – Difficult to pin this hydra down. Wombat is a bit all over the place with his accusations of people being wolfy and AJ seems very focused on Seph for a long while. They do give opinions on other people, and I can see why their vote hasn't changed. Nullish to me at the moment.

I don't know how long I'll be here for today, so I'm going to [v]Seph[/v].

If anything changes before EOD I'm not entirely sure I'll be able to change my vote. EOD is 4am my time. I should still be here another couple of hours though.

Eldrick4221 · June 26, 2015

Heart is probably the best bet for today tbh. She had sketchy reasons for remaining on Leelou when she got snap lynched despite trying to be elsewhere but failing because she didn't unvote properly.

I haven't been reading her posts that much since I have decided she's one that needs to die for us to win. Who does she have as suspects now?

Wow. That's really bad.

"I'm gonna lynch heart. I don't even care what she's been saying"

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

VOTE COUNT! END OF DAY 1!

Seph(1): NotBob

Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi

Leelou(7): Aiel Heart, Zander, Laine, Durin, Shad, Seph, Wombat

Aiel Heart(1): Eldrick

Sooh(1): Talya

Laine(3): Clovdyx, Leelou, Sili

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Yates, Sooh

Leelou has been lynched! She was The Emperor, Mafia Godfather.

Hallia will do the write-up when she's back on.

It is now NIGHT 1!

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Yates(2): Talya, WomboCombo

Thaneballs32(6): Laine, AielHeart, Sili, Eldrick, Zander, NotBob

WomboCombo(1): Yates

Thaneballs32 is at L-2

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Sooh, Dice, Shad, Seph, Csarmi

It is Day 2. With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is set for Tuesday, June 23rd at 7pm PST. Countdown Timer

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Sooh(7): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick, Zander, Yates

Aiel Heart(1): Dice

Eldrick(1): Csarmi

Not Voting: Laine, Aiel Heart

Sooh has been lynched! She was Jabba the Hut, Mafia 1x Janitor.

Scene when Hallia gets back online. It is now Night 3, send in your PMs!

LOOK YATES NOT ONE THE FIRST 2 TRAINS. THEN ONLY DROPS THE HAMMER ON SOOH WHEN HE A) KNOWS ITS OVER TO GAIN SOME CRED AND B) AFTER HE KNOWS SHE QUITS!!!

YATES IS A WOLF!

But he isnt a wolf. Look elsewhere imo. These arent the droids u r looking for.

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

Wow a lot is happening. Phone posting is too slow.

Talya · June 26, 2015

Quick Question: Tinfoiling!...I thought this meant ideas that are a bit out there...x-files type thing, and conspiracies. People seem to be using it in other places, does it have another meaning I'm missing?

@ Womby - Why do you think Seph is wolf?

His post about towning with Turin looked like possible TMI/buddying and his reaction to Shad's vote was over the top. He also has no solid scum reads AFAIK.

Who else do you think maybe wolf, and who do you have as town leans right now?

Sili wolf lean. Mixed on Durin. Town leans on NotBob, Sooh, Eldrick, Dice, Shad.

Sili is wolf lean to you? That's kinda the opposite of my impression. Can you elaborate on that?

Still thinks sili is town

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

She was fosing wombat there talya. Gotta read it in context. She was asking y wombat changed on me.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

VOTE COUNT! END OF DAY 1!

Seph(1): NotBob

Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi

Leelou(7): Aiel Heart, Zander, Laine, Durin, Shad, Seph, Wombat

Aiel Heart(1): Eldrick

Sooh(1): Talya

Laine(3): Clovdyx, Leelou, Sili

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Yates, Sooh

Leelou has been lynched! She was The Emperor, Mafia Godfather.

Hallia will do the write-up when she's back on.

It is now NIGHT 1!

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Yates(2): Talya, WomboCombo

Thaneballs32(6): Laine, AielHeart, Sili, Eldrick, Zander, NotBob

WomboCombo(1): Yates

Thaneballs32 is at L-2

Not Voting: Thaneballs32, Sooh, Dice, Shad, Seph, Csarmi

It is Day 2. With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is set for Tuesday, June 23rd at 7pm PST. Countdown Timer

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Sooh(7): Sili, WomboCombo, Talya, NotBob, Eldrick, Zander, Yates

Aiel Heart(1): Dice

Eldrick(1): Csarmi

Not Voting: Laine, Aiel Heart

Sooh has been lynched! She was Jabba the Hut, Mafia 1x Janitor.

Scene when Hallia gets back online. It is now Night 3, send in your PMs!

LOOK YATES NOT ONE THE FIRST 2 TRAINS. THEN ONLY DROPS THE HAMMER ON SOOH WHEN HE A) KNOWS ITS OVER TO GAIN SOME CRED AND B) AFTER HE KNOWS SHE QUITS!!!

YATES IS A WOLF!

But he isnt a wolf. Look elsewhere imo. These arent the droids u r looking for.

yes they are.

Talya · June 26, 2015

Re Heart - I think her post coming in and clearly skimming and giving her thoughts is fine. What I didn't like, which may or may not have been a typo since it made little sense, was that she said she'd barely be here next week as well. At this point, even if she is town, how does it benefit town to keep her around?
Ah yes, that old chestnut, "Let's lynch the person providing zero content over people providing scummy content..."

Who are your scum reads again? Was it just the abandoned Seph read?

At this point in time I have a number of players I'm unsure of. If it helps to think in skittle terms color them orange.

Talya is one of the players I have trouble sussing out. I feel like she's very much grasping at straws with her reads sometimes, and that doesn't sit right with me.

Dice I'm not convinced of. I would wolf read him more, but the fact that most of my town reads seem convinced that he's town leads me to believe he might be as well. Still so unsure though.

Seph is still not clear for me. I believe he could pull himself out of a rut as wolf, but at the same time he may also just be a townie with a bad start.

Csarmi is an enigma to me, and I can't tell what I should believe about him. I think he's not doing great in terms of solving, and he seems fixated on a few players only.

Mawth is still far from clear in my books, same as Heart, but they are in my orange reads more for lack of content.

Here we have a l;ist of her Null reads. Dice, Maw, Seph town, I know I'm Town, CS most likely town. So all those she looked at here were not in her team.

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

What makes u so sure on yates anyway?

Talya · June 26, 2015

My reads as of now from the top of my head before I go to bed. This game is way too fast for me. I'm really struggling to keep up with it. The order of my reads isn't important. I'm just trying to sort through everyone so I have a place to start tomorrow.

Town:

Shad - TOWN

Laine - TOWN

Zander

Eldrick

WomboCombo - WOLF

Unsure, probably town:

Seph - TOWN

Dice - TOWN

Notbob

Yates

Talya

Scummy:

Sili

Csarmi

Heart

Okay here is a list of her reads. The last she does. I have put next to the alignment of those we know. Makes you think if she had spread her team mates about. There had been a lot of talk about Leelou's list and her spread, so not sure if we can read too much into this.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

he was like alanna cleared me....i dont believe that. she viewed Dice and Thaneballs. Hes not on either train then Hammers Sooh to gain some cred AFTER she quit AND he knew she was 100% being voted, i dont believe wombo vs yates was t vs t.

wombo has looked good more game solve imo.

yates: see above.

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

Its hard to catch up on mobile.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

My reads as of now from the top of my head before I go to bed. This game is way too fast for me. I'm really struggling to keep up with it. The order of my reads isn't important. I'm just trying to sort through everyone so I have a place to start tomorrow.

Town:

Shad - TOWN

Laine - TOWN

Zander

Eldrick

WomboCombo - WOLF

Unsure, probably town:

Seph - TOWN

Dice - TOWN

Notbob

Yates

Talya

Scummy:

Sili

Csarmi

Heart

Okay here is a list of her reads. The last she does. I have put next to the alignment of those we know. Makes you think if she had spread her team mates about. There had been a lot of talk about Leelou's list and her spread, so not sure if we can read too much into this.

THERES YATES IN ANOTHER SCUM'S TOWN READ!!!!! COME ON PEOPLE SEE THIS!!!!!

Talya · June 26, 2015

She was fosing wombat there talya. Gotta read it in context. She was asking y wombat changed on me.

I see what you mean.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

SUMMARY:

ALL 3 SCUM TOWNREAD YATES

YATES NOT ON FIRST 2 TRAINS THEN HAMMERS THE 3RD AFTER SHE QUITS AND THERES NO CHANCE IN HELL IN DERAILING IT

SAYS ALANNA VIEWS HIM IN ORDER TO TRY AND CLEAR HIMSELF, PRETTY OBV SHE VIEWED DICE AND THANEBALLS

THIS IS EASY PEOPLE!!!!

Talya · June 26, 2015

Zander - please come up with some more logical stuff instead of using things to fit your view...find things that support it.

How do you know Alanna viewed Thaneballs? The fact is we DON'T know, I'm not saying I knew she viewed Yates, I don't, but at present he isn't my top priority.

SUMMARY:

ALL 3 SCUM TOWNREAD YATES

YATES NOT ON FIRST 2 TRAINS THEN HAMMERS THE 3RD AFTER SHE QUITS AND THERES NO CHANCE IN HELL IN DERAILING IT

SAYS ALANNA VIEWS HIM IN ORDER TO TRY AND CLEAR HIMSELF, PRETTY OBV SHE VIEWED DICE AND THANEBALLS

THIS IS EASY PEOPLE!!!!

the bolded blue, this is more likely to mean he isn't on their team. The best person to have on all their lists would have been Leelou, as she was the Godfather.

If he was on Sooh's train, then he might have been more inclined to want to see who replaced her, but instead didn't want a replacement.

Show me where you got she viewed Thaneballs.

Yates · June 26, 2015

Notice how BOTH scum have Yates as town reads??!!! like i dont know....Hiding him in there!!! he wasnt consensus town by any means at that point!!

LOL - you are absurd. You realize that spews me Town, right? A Verb/Leelou scum team isn't going to try to push a mislynch on me early in the game. I'm not even going to get in to the rest of their Town "reads."

Sili Quirrels · June 26, 2015

Bah it deleted my postd. Nvm we are in no rush and maybe its better if yates explains how ur wrong instead of me anyway.

Zander? · June 26, 2015

I DONT THINK SO. ALL THE VOTES HAVE HIM AS TOWN CAUSE NO ONE'S ON HIM EARLY. USUALLY A SCUM TEAMMATE IN A TOWN READ/NULL.

SHE WAS GONNA LYNCH THANEBALLS BEFORE THE CLAIM LEADS ME TO BELIEVE SHE KNEW BEFORE HAND CAUSE REALLY THE ONLY THING ON THEM WAS INACTIVITY BEFORE THE CLAIM.

WE KNEW THERE WASNT GONNA BE A REPLACEMENT CAUSE WE HAD THAT SLOT PEGGED AND NO ONE WAS GONNA READ 200 PAGES AND LIKE WE'D WAIT FOR IT.

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