Alien mafia [BASIC] - Game Over - Town won

[Talya]

At this point in time, I think this may a good idea.

[Aiel Heart]

My brain is outright refusing to work right now, but let’s try this anyway.

 

Sooh liked Daet and Alanna at first, was on the fence about Eldrick, indicated she felt like I was mafia in this game, and said Talya felt the same but she’d been wrong about Talya in the past.

Looking at people including Shad… That makes Alanna look better because she had her scum partner as the other, and I’m not quite sure what it means about Talya. She’s also pushing me from very early on, which should be noted

Random vote flip to Darthe which appeared to be following Sili’s lead (she said it was from an ISO but noted)… Makes Darthe look slightly better and not sure what it means for Sili

Sooh was leaning mafia for Shad, Hallia, Daet and Darthe as of post #481. She probably wouldn’t put both of her partners in her scum list, so that makes Shad, Hallia and Darthe look a little better.

Voted Hallia the next day, and said Shad was growing on her. Don’t know what that means about Hallia, makes Shad look a little better.

Shad post #870 has more reasons for himself to look better in light of Sooh

Ok, so that makes Shad and Darthe look better, as well as Laine. Hallia looks a bit better, Talya and Sili I’m not quite sure about and NotBob wasn’t mentioned at all (at least in the posts I noticed), which could be telling in itself.

 

Daet listed Eldrick’s accusers as Alanna, Darthe, Sili, Hallia and possibly NotBob. He said there is probably 1-2 mafia on that list, and that is potentially true. A bit of truth makes a lie more believable. It has been noted that Hallia was just kind of thrown in on that list and hadn’t really been an accuser of Daet, and this probably makes her seem a bit better, though there are other ways of spinning that.

He liked Talya and Alanna’s reads of Eldrick, and didn’t like Sili or Shad. Potentially one mafia out of those mentioned, the two consistent ones being Alanna and Sili, and his comments on Sili seem more distancing than anything else.

Next post, responded to Sili’s comment about setting up mislynches, and also put pressure on Talya for the hammer. I feel better about Talya concerning this, and it’s kind of making me doubt Sili more.

 

Then to quote from before:

Yates' posts primarily consisted of discussing his leg hair, questioning Laine about a few things though not actually pushing her, and generally questioning and refining things with others such as shad, Eldrick and Daet. In my opinion his play had been very strongly town (though that could just be 20/20 hindsight at this point) so that is perhaps the reason he was lynched.

 

Verbal didn’t like Shad’s beginning, was one of the later votes on Eldrick, questioned Alanna’s discomfort and questioned Darthe’s swag. He liked Sili’s call that Daet, me and Hallia were wolves. Also generally looking at people and questioning them.

 

GRRR there is something obvious here that I am missing!!!!!

Both questioned Alanna but didn’t push her. Still feel like I’m missing something right in front of my face with these two. Mafia killed two people who didn’t give us a whole ton of info

 

The only mafia left is the Godfather, so the cop isn’t going to be entirely certain of his/her night reads right now, and most of the game left is Vanilla Townies. That’s going to be a fairly common claim for anyone, so it means as good as nothing, which is unfortunate for the majority that do in reality have that role.

 

Darthe's suggestion seems reasonable

[Aiel Heart]

Ok, so… (Sorry Talya you’re probably not going to like this one)

Shad—his fills and gaps in knowledge are interesting, but he’s just a mystery in general so this might not be indicative of alignment.
—Has spent a lot of this game really not liking Darthe, others on his mafia list included NotBob, Talya and Daet.
—In #503 he focuses on me, Sooh and Dathe and does a bit of linking between me and Daet. He now liked Talya, along with Sili and Alanna.
—Looks better in light of Sooh

Laine—started off running, the generalizations were what stuck out to me early.
—Didn’t like Talya at first, was digging in with Shad as well
—Was uncomfortable with the two trains which Verbal pointed out was strange.
—#535 reads list had me and Sooh as scum with orange NotBob and Shad
—#709 reads list had Sooh ands Hallia as scum and me and Shad as orange
—A lot of people treating like cleared town, and she’s questioning the others acting similarly in their reads and such but also seems to be going with them
—Looks better in light of Sooh, murky in light of Daet, Verb and Yates

Hallia—been fairly absent this game, which has been noticed by man
—said Eldrick was obviously derptown
—Didn’t like the interaction between Alanna and Yates before his death, liked Sooh but didn’t like Talya
—Steadily started feeling better about Alanna, but didn’t like NotBob or Talya
—#508 scum as NotBob, me, Sooh and Darthe as null, probably town as Talya and Sili, Town as Laine and Shad
—Betterish in light of Sooh, murky in light of Daet. Verbal liked her as a wolf but could have been mistaken

--Darthe certain she is town

Darthe—a lot of popping in this game, difficult to know when to take him seriously
—calls me scummy from the get-go
—voted Sooh #323
—as of #525 the reads list was Sooh, Shad and Hally as scum
—#665 had Shad, Laine, himself and Sili as town, the rest were the mafia pool, though I and Talya could be bumped up and Shad could fall down
—Better in light of Sooh, murky in light of Daet

Sili—been acting like a town leader most of the game
—Reported reads on Darthe have been varying
—Didn’t like Daet early on
—Saw me, Verbal and Hallia as mafia right before Verbal died
—Saw Shad and Sooh as town (I think that is a part of my strong of notes on post #499 but would have to go back and doublecheck)
—#666 gave a basic catch up on everyone, liked Talya, hesitantly liking Shad, liked Laine, didn’t like Sooh, and doesn’t seem sure of what to think about me though I’m still tilting scum
—Murky in light of Sooh and sort of scummy in light of Daet

Talya—first hammer seemed scummy to a lot of people (including Yates) second hammer seemed to clear her in a lot of people’s eyes
—Hasn’t liked Hallia for a lot of the game
—Didn’t like Hallia, Daet or Notbob later on
—Individual reads of people on page 22ish
—hasn’t been around as much lately
—murky in light of Sooh, better in light of Daet

--I like her because of some stuff with Verbal before he died

Notbob—a lot of pop corning this game, and a lot of people don’t like him.
—Said there was at least two scum in the nonvoting group of Daet, Hallia, me, Sooh and Talya.
—Was part of the weird popcorn interplays with Darthe and Sili
—Liked Me and Talya, didn’t like Darthe, Shad or Hallia

--A lot of people see him as scummy. I've liked a lot of what he said but am starting to really doubt myself because of others' dislike

[Darthe]

BTW I want the hammer and atm I'm leaning notbob

[Aiel Heart]

@Everyone, just for the cases of documentation in case this is a mislynch, why NotBob?

 

 

And if I'm voted I want the dignity of a case >.>

 

 

Working on a teal deer list 

[Darthe]

Actually no I'm not. Changing my mind, still could be AH. I forget that her activity isn't a tell and her big posts like above are not enough to edge her ahead logically, it's just tilting me

[Darthe]

Lol I just made a post outside of my wolf range. I'm gonna have to fix that.

[Talya]

Do we know there is a Godfather? Is this used in a Basic game?

[Aiel Heart]

*Hallia also hammered Sooh, who was the other major train besides her. A lot of people seem to think this clears her, I don't necessarily 

Forgot to type that somehow

[Aiel Heart]

Tell me all about myself Darthe. Make me feel good about you not liking me. 

[Talya]

Teal Deer list? I meant to ask that of you before Heart, but forgot, lol.

 

I could read that just, better than the first way you did it.

 

Heart - what are you views of the doc and cop revealing what they know?

[Darthe]

Tell me all about myself Darthe. Make me feel good about you not liking me.

I won't hold your alignment against you ;)

[Aiel Heart]

Another addition to notes that I realized was missing

 

*Talya post #550

Town was sili, Slight Town were Darthe, NotBob Very Slight Town were Alanna and me, Shad was slight mafia and mafia were Hallia and Sooh

 

 

 

 

TL;DR = Teal Deer. Soemthing I picked up from Mynd. He did these massive posts and then at the end he'd post a picture of a teal deer and would give a summary :P 

 

Concerning reveals:

There is only one mafia left, so it is potentially a very good way to cross-analyze everyone and try to weed out some of the junk here. It would out our two power roles, but if we play it right (particularly the power roles playing it right) then perhaps it won't matter even if we do mislynch today 

 

Also, I thought the godfather role was in basic games too...?

[Aiel Heart]

 

Tell me all about myself Darthe. Make me feel good about you not liking me.

I won't hold your alignment against you ;)

 

Spare me my blushes 

 

 

I wish I knew you were good >.> 

[Talya]

I tried looking and I think it could include it, I don't think the house of Cards did. Only a cop not even a doc.

 

We do know there is a doc here, but that is it.

[Aiel Heart]

Ok, so

 

Feeling very ok with Talya

 

Feeling decently ok with Laine and Shad (though I still wonder if one of them is the sneaky hiding scum<--I have a habit of putting scum in my moderately town area)

 

Darthe I'm feeling alright with atm

 

You guys are making me feel weird about NotBob now, so I would like convincing 

 

Sili is feeling worse to me and I'm also still not extremely fond of Hallia

 

 

And would like to see other people's opinions and reads before I vote

[Aiel Heart]

I tried looking and I think it could include it, I don't think the house of Cards did. Only a cop not even a doc.

 

We do know there is a doc here, but that is it.

O.o that sounds like a really weird game. 

 

And now I'm paranoid that there isn't a doc and the mafia just didn't kill last night to throw us off... O.O

[alannalynn]

Heart, why Sili?

 

Ok, so

 

Feeling very ok with Talya

 

Feeling decently ok with Laine and Shad (though I still wonder if one of them is the sneaky hiding scum<--I have a habit of putting scum in my moderately town area)

 

Darthe I'm feeling alright with atm

 

You guys are making me feel weird about NotBob now, so I would like convincing 

 

Sili is feeling worse to me and I'm also still not extremely fond of Hallia

 

 

And would like to see other people's opinions and reads before I vote

[Talya]

I need to go back and ISO a few people..

 

My list before I go back and reread and ISO

 

Town:

 

Talya (of course)

Darthe

Sili

Alanna/Laine (not sure which you prefer)

 

Slightly more Wolf than town

 

AH

 

Wolf (I know there is only one)

 

Shad (his link to Sooh - which I need to relook at)

Hally (her lack of reasoning, and her being defensive when questioned over it)

 

this one I did earlier, but I had a look and what Sooh and Dae said, looked at voting or lack of.

 

Those not on Dae lynch: Dae, Heart, Hally, Darthe, Sooh

 

Those not on Sooh Lynch: Notbob, Heart, Sooh, sili

 

Heart wasn't on either.

 

Sili and Nonbob were on the Dae but not sooh.

 

I need to check, but I think sili was on the Dae lynch early then took his vote off and put it on again later.

 

I can see wolves going for Dae lynching, but they would not want to lose Sooh, so those on Hally's train look more suspicious.

 

From that NotBob and Heart look worse.

 

does anyone know a way I can search for the voting tags on this thread?

 

 

For me that then pushed Heart back up into the wolf area and Notbob too. I will up date my list

 

 

I tried looking and I think it could include it, I don't think the house of Cards did. Only a cop not even a doc.

 

We do know there is a doc here, but that is it.

O.o that sounds like a really weird game. 

 

And now I'm paranoid that there isn't a doc and the mafia just didn't kill last night to throw us off... O.O

 

 

I don't see that at all, why would they do that, they wouldn't know if there was a doc or not, plus it would be a waste of a kill. Can't see it.

 

Updated list

 

Town

 

Sili

Darthe

Laine

 

Shad

Hally

 

Heart

Notbob

 

they are in no particular order in that their smaller lists

[Aiel Heart]

My brain is outright refusing to work right now, but let’s try this anyway.

 

Sooh liked Daet and Alanna at first, was on the fence about Eldrick, indicated she felt like I was mafia in this game, and said Talya felt the same but she’d been wrong about Talya in the past.

Looking at people including Shad… That makes Alanna look better because she had her scum partner as the other, and I’m not quite sure what it means about Talya. She’s also pushing me from very early on, which should be noted

Random vote flip to Darthe which appeared to be following Sili’s lead (she said it was from an ISO but noted)… Makes Darthe look slightly better and not sure what it means for Sili

Sooh was leaning mafia for Shad, Hallia, Daet and Darthe as of post #481. She probably wouldn’t put both of her partners in her scum list, so that makes Shad, Hallia and Darthe look a little better.

Voted Hallia the next day, and said Shad was growing on her. Don’t know what that means about Hallia, makes Shad look a little better.

Shad post #870 has more reasons for himself to look better in light of Sooh

Ok, so that makes Shad and Darthe look better, as well as Laine. Hallia looks a bit better, Talya and Sili I’m not quite sure about and NotBob wasn’t mentioned at all (at least in the posts I noticed), which could be telling in itself.

 

Daet listed Eldrick’s accusers as Alanna, Darthe, Sili, Hallia and possibly NotBob. He said there is probably 1-2 mafia on that list, and that is potentially true. A bit of truth makes a lie more believable. It has been noted that Hallia was just kind of thrown in on that list and hadn’t really been an accuser of Daet, and this probably makes her seem a bit better, though there are other ways of spinning that.

He liked Talya and Alanna’s reads of Eldrick, and didn’t like Sili or Shad. Potentially one mafia out of those mentioned, the two consistent ones being Alanna and Sili, and his comments on Sili seem more distancing than anything else.

Next post, responded to Sili’s comment about setting up mislynches, and also put pressure on Talya for the hammer. I feel better about Talya concerning this, and it’s kind of making me doubt Sili more.

 

 

Sili—been acting like a town leader most of the game

—Reported reads on Darthe have been varying

—Didn’t like Daet early on

—Saw me, Verbal and Hallia as mafia right before Verbal died

—Saw Shad and Sooh as town (I think that is a part of my strong of notes on post #499 but would have to go back and doublecheck)

—#666 gave a basic catch up on everyone, liked Talya, hesitantly liking Shad, liked Laine, didn’t like Sooh, and doesn’t seem sure of what to think about me though I’m still tilting scum

—Murky in light of Sooh and sort of scummy in light of Daet

 

 

Ok, so

 

Feeling very ok with Talya

 

Feeling decently ok with Laine and Shad (though I still wonder if one of them is the sneaky hiding scum<--I have a habit of putting scum in my moderately town area) (Sili had been in this category as well for quite a while)

 

Darthe I'm feeling alright with atm

 

You guys are making me feel weird about NotBob now, so I would like convincing 

 

Sili is feeling worse to me and I'm also still not extremely fond of Hallia

 

 

And would like to see other people's opinions and reads before I vote

 

 

Kind of a combination of all of the bolded + my reads quote + a gut feeling. I could very well be wrong

[Aiel Heart]

^That was in answer to Alanna's question

[Aiel Heart]

 

 

I tried looking and I think it could include it, I don't think the house of Cards did. Only a cop not even a doc.

 

We do know there is a doc here, but that is it.

O.o that sounds like a really weird game. 

 

And now I'm paranoid that there isn't a doc and the mafia just didn't kill last night to throw us off... O.O

 

 

I don't see that at all, why would they do that, they wouldn't know if there was a doc or not, plus it would be a waste of a kill. Can't see it.

That was more me being silly than an actual theory. 

 

 

Also, if we had two scummy looking trains for both of the days discussed, then it is entirely possible that I just picked the wrong train. Especially with Hallia's in particular, I voted her more to pressure for information than to actually vote. Sooh got hammered (by Hallia) too quick. 

[alannalynn]

Thanks Heart, I was curious what you were seeing.

 

I still have Sili and Talya, maybe Darthe as my top town reads. I'm gonna trust them on the Hallia read, so she's up there too I suppose.

POE says NotBob, Shad, and Heart are at the bottom, I'm okay with NB/AH today, but I really don't see much of a case on NB in the first place. I'll be leaning toward a Heart lynch.

[Talya]

After the flip I reread today, and here are my reads.

 

Town

Shad

Darthe

Not Bob

 

Maybe

Sooh

Laine

Talya

 

Possibly

Verbal

AH

Hallia

 

I don't consider Verbal's tunnel or Laine's posts clearing. I think Verbal's strategy might be to go under cover as a deep wolf, which is kind of the opposite of last game so it makes sense aesthetically.

 

Just my gut speaking for me. I might change my mind tomorrow.

 

This is the post Heart was on about, and night 2 finished just after this. Putting Verb as your wolf and then killing him...meh!

 

He does a lot of vote swapping

 

hm.

 

i would be pretty surprised if there wasn't a wolf on talya's wagon.

 

[v]AH[/v]

 

 

That said I want to make a new wagon.

 

 

[unvote]

 

 

[v]AH[/v]

 

 

Town -> Scum

Shad

Halia

 

Talya

Laine

 

Notbob

DArthe

Sooh

 

 

AH

 

This would be a strong scum game from LAine.

 

Not much to say about not bob other than, if he is a wolf, he bussed.

 

Sooh still town, but she might be my weakest town read. Although I don't think her being a hypocrite means anything for reasons I'll unspecified.

 

Shad is like, he has a lot of content and stuff but sometimes i get the feeling he's driving mislynches and I get panicky.

 

Darthe is like, ya, he doesn't care... and I believe him, but... it's way too easy for scum to hide like that and I really really dislike it the more I think about him.

 

Talya is acting like a cleared townie, which is villagery considering the circumstances. Plus Dae started the wagon.

 

Sooh town here - but his weakest town

 

I am significantly more confident on ah than sooh.

 

i would really rather ah.

 

but if sooh is a general consensus then maybe we should lynch her first, i dunno =/

 

Prefers Heart to Sooh, but would go with Sooh, if that was what was decided.

 

[unvote]

[v]sooh[/v]

 

The votes Sooh

 

[unvote]

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

The votes Darthe and kept it there until EOD

 

Dae tried to tie me to Darthe. Darthe moved off Dae and attempted to push other wagons.

 

I don't think Darthe has any idea what would captivate his interest because he's a wolf. HE's not even socializing with anyone.

 

At some point we need to build a real wagon on him, possibly end up lynching him, so let's make that day today.

 

Seems to not like Darthe's posting.

 

He seems to flit around a few people but he did respond to me that if he thinks someone is wolf and will vote them to push them. I don't think he was around at the end of that day when Hally hammered.

 

Not quite seeing what you are seeing Heart.

[Talya]

NB seems to be more, that he hasn't done too much and also POE