Warehouse 13 Mafia- Mafia Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

All these acronyms. I finally learned what ITT means.

[Eldrick4221]

I'll be back for a few hours at least, after dinner, if anyone has specific questions for me.

Glad you could join us. Are you current on the thread, and do you have any leans?

[Eldrick4221]

 

I didn't cal him a goon, I pointed out the obvious that he left out

Where you called him a goon:

 

So, yeah, I had no idea the game had started.

 

So, I had no posts so far.

 

So, no triggers hit.

 

Hence, vanilla town.

 

Carry on.

Or mafia goon.

 

 

I was thinking about this tonight at work. Inconsistent is bad.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

[Eldrick4221]

As for the topic of deadline time. I don't mind where it is, but also don't care if it gets moved to early evening. The time difference will be when I sleep, so it's a moot point to me.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

I didn't cal him a goon, I pointed out the obvious that he left out

Where you called him a goon:

 

So, yeah, I had no idea the game had started.

 

So, I had no posts so far.

 

So, no triggers hit.

 

Hence, vanilla town.

 

Carry on.

Or mafia goon.

 

 

I was thinking about this tonight at work. Inconsistent is bad.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

inconsistency is often a matter of perspective.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

I didn't cal him a goon, I pointed out the obvious that he left out

Where you called him a goon:

 

So, yeah, I had no idea the game had started.

 

So, I had no posts so far.

 

So, no triggers hit.

 

Hence, vanilla town.

 

Carry on.

Or mafia goon.

 

 

I was thinking about this tonight at work. Inconsistent is bad.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

inconsistency is often a matter of perspective.

 

Granted, but in this situation it's a perspective I tend to agree with.

[Cass]

 

I'll be back for a few hours at least, after dinner, if anyone has specific questions for me.

Glad you could join us. Are you current on the thread, and do you have any leans?

 

 

I'm up to page 21 with my notes. Have skimmed to post #556.

 

I have some leans . Will post list of general opinions when I'm caught up and have collated notes. 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

DM theory tells you to lynch a player with a 75% random chance to flip your alignment for little-to-no information gain?

 

 

I'm speechless.

 

Thanks for confirming I'm town.  Something only scum would know.  

 

Unvote, Vote Sili

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

I don't like any of the trains at the moment. I'm going to vote Dawn to see if it draws her out.  Yates' lynch would probably give us the most info, but I don't want to go there day one. 

 

Vote Dawn

 

 

Re.

 

 

Might need another replacement. Dawn hasn't checked in yet or read the PM.

 

 

Oh, I didn't see that. Now, I have to figure out where to vote again. I have some townie reads, but no scum reads at this point. 

 

Not Bob, what is DM theory?

 

 

DM theory states that when a relatively new player bows out... 68.9% of the time that person is scum.  

[Thane Vakarian]

as far as we know, she hasn't even checked her PM yet... hasn't posted yet.. so she wouldn't know what role she has.... 

 

how would that work with that theory?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sili, if you wanna lynch inactive ones, lynch dawn...

 

Though we wouldn't get info out of that.

 

In general, honestly, i don't know where to look for the moment. I'll re-read tomorrow, going to bed soon

 

Just want to add that I mentioned this first and would love this general direction.

 

Have you read the thread yet?

 

 

What thread?

 

I'll take that as a no.

 

In other words, you want to lynch someone who hasn't read their pm because you can't be bothered looking for scum in the actives.

 

 

I'm voting Eldrick atm for discussing triggers...i can move to Dawn based upon the DM theory....so yes...I'm comfortable.

 

What other evidence do you propose we base our decision?

 

You're voting be because I was apparently being distracting? It's day 1, and I wanted something to talk about. I stopped discussing it. Why are you still voting me?

 

 

I voted you because your actions made you appear scummy...your change in behavior was predicated on the aforementioned feedback you received from other players...you still committed the original action...hence you still deserve pressure...but since Sili has acknowledged he's scum logic dictated I move my vote to him.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

as far as we know, she hasn't even checked her PM yet... hasn't posted yet.. so she wouldn't know what role she has.... 

 

how would that work with that theory?

 

Dawn was not the original player.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

as far as we know, she hasn't even checked her PM yet... hasn't posted yet.. so she wouldn't know what role she has.... 

 

how would that work with that theory?

 

Dawn was not the original player.

 

true, but with the few posts MrsClov made, she totally read null to me. I'll treat dawn, when she logs in, as the original player. 

[Eldrick4221]

I still don't see how talking about something unrelated to the core of the game is scummy, but ok.

[Eldrick4221]

I agree that Yates claiming this early is a bad idea. I can't see how it benefits town and it certainly doesn't clear him and Pral. 

 

I support the idea of Masons revealing early. Should one of them have died without us knowing who the other one was, the role would have been completely useless. We would know there's a powerless townie out there somewhere. Great! now one can completely clear the other, should they be telling the truth. That's the power masons possess.

 

I know this has already been talked about, to an extent, but I've been rereading, and this jumped out at me.

[WWWwombat]

So, basically, earlier today, I was a little hurried and was unable to hunker down and focus.

 

I don't know why Hallia is going so hard at Yates.

 

I don't know what this means:

 

Morning!

 

No you're a goon Yates!

 

So tell me why the early claim? Don't you know that's my job?

 

 

 

I'm suspicious because you tried to make it seem like you could onnnnnly be VT Pral, and as people other than me have also said, there were alternatives

This is factually correct, Pralaya did say he was Vanilla Town, but I don't think he was striving for lock clear status. The statement was more like a pronouncement than an argument.

 

You're not trying to figure Pralaya out, you're deconstruct his and yates' claims. Your nudges aren't accomplishing anything.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

Town leans on Thane, Eldrick, Pralaya

 

 

What's your stance on Yates and his claim? And what's your stance on Pralaya? Are you keeping them honest, or are you nudging them to keep the suspect pool open?

 

I've read your iso twice now, and truthfully, I can't tell what you're angling there. Don't you know we all know Yates is lying badly (or lying very well)?  There's very little point in pointing it out.

 

If we're on the same team let's get down to business. Does Yates' atrocious claim make him scum, or doesn't it? Same applies to pralaya, though in a different sense.

 

 

Also, I'm wanting to pay more attention to Wombat and Verbal and Alanna.

 

Truth is when I read Hallia's iso it flows in a villagery way. If Hallia is town, then yeah, there's scum in u 3 i bet.

 

This sequence makes very little sense to me.

[Eldrick4221]

Also, I may have jumped the gun and responded to the inconsistency harshly. I understand Hallia's explanation of suggesting Pral was a mafia goon. Everyone COULD be one. That's what she was saying. Yates was defensive and loud. I'm really bad at paying attention to loud, and I'm trying to work on that. I'm also trying to take notes, something I didn't bother doing last game. Hopefully that will help me not follow people.

 

[unvote]

My reasoning for voting her was misconstrued.

[WWWwombat]

I still don't trust this mason thing though. And I'm not happy with the way Yates has been playing. I'm getting a really bad vibe from it. It is possible that his Mason claim is true, but it's also possible that the trigger made them both scum. The only way to find out is a flip.

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

I hate this.  FoS.

[WWWwombat]

There is an awful lot of speculation going on regarding triggers, I'd rather more focus on gameplay than have the game revolving around the triggers.

 

Yep.

 

 

ok having puter issues will do what I can  should last only a few days

 

 

yates pral town

 

pretty sure im seeing town thane here too.

 

I don't like hallias tone responding to yates

 

didn't like eldriks entry to the game. comes in and votes a claimed mason? not seeing it. I think theres at least 1 mafia in these two.

 

my gut jumped at both but more at hally so

 

DiceGOAT is in the house.

[WWWwombat]

I'd agree. Dice's opening is normal Dice. Nothing suspicious.

 

If you read Eldrick's last game, he is so far in the clear it's laughable.

 

The pressure is building on hallia, but no votes yet.

 

Explain Eldrick plz.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I'd agree. Dice's opening is normal Dice. Nothing suspicious.

 

If you read Eldrick's last game, he is so far in the clear it's laughable.

 

The pressure is building on hallia, but no votes yet.

 

Explain Eldrick plz.

 

I think Sili is referring to how all i did last game was follow what other people said. I was scum in that game, and didn't need to do my own research.

[Thane Vakarian]

people rely on meta too much.... 

[Eldrick4221]

So how's the fantasy football thing?

[WWWwombat]

 

Ok fine. It's a distraction. I'll leave it alone. When I get home tonight, I'm going to go over Hally's posts and see why people are jumping down her throat.

 

@Dice. Claimed mason doesn't mean anything until proven. If they are actually masons, and one dies, we can 100% trust the other.

 

 

 

 

 

If we lynch yates, who has outright claimed that he is mason, and that his buddy is pral, and he does indeed flip mason, then yes. We know pral is town (mason)

 

WHOOSH

 

 

All people that I don't feel have a legit case, so no, no pressure.

 

It was early D1.  How much of a case were you actually expecting at that point?

 

 

 

Wait, when was it again he played the newb town card to clear himself?

"I have a GREAT idea! Let's kill one of the Masons to prove the claim because scum totally won't kill the other after the first flips Town!! OH! And we should test this claim on the more active of the two Masons just to make this as +EV as humanly possible! I. AM. A. GENIUS."

 

 

lol

 

 

Look at my signature, Sili. You think they hand signatures like this out to just ANYONE? Do you, punk?

 

Sheep me to victory.

 

trolololol

[Eldrick4221]

people rely on meta too much.... 

I have mixed feelings about meta. I would much rather have an investigative role, and actually figure stuff out with hard facts. But, in lieu of that, I guess I'll use meta.