[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Sili Quirrels]

Sad face**

[Andrej]

I don't think Zashara is responding greatly here but I got the point she was making in a generic sense.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

 

If nyn had had happy thoughts about zasha would zasha suspect nyn was a wolf?

 

At this point in the game, hell yes.

 

[Nynaeve]

[v]Zasha[/v]

[Zashara]

 

 

But you didn't say you would consider Nyn COULD be scum; you said you would suspect her of BEING scum.

 

Which is the same thing in my book. I don't know what you're getting at here.

[Clovdyx]

Does that make sense?  I feel like I'm making sense, but I also know what I'm getting at.  

 

Basically, there's a difference between thinking somebody might be scum and actually suspecting them of it.  So I'm trying to figure out how you actually feel about people with early town reads, and more importantly, if you're actually treating people the way your statement suggests you would.

[Sili Quirrels]

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well. Like, I don't know about scum equity, but zasha is reading as hot-headed here.

[Andrej]

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

That's what I got out of it.

[Sili Quirrels]

Does that make sense?  I feel like I'm making sense, but I also know what I'm getting at.  

 

Basically, there's a difference between thinking somebody might be scum and actually suspecting them of it.  So I'm trying to figure out how you actually feel about people with early town reads, and more importantly, if you're actually treating people the way your statement suggests you would.

The good news is you're making sense, and I'm associating this case building a lot with your town game.

[Clovdyx]

Let me give you an example. I said I'm townreading Yates.  He seemed relatively easy going at the start of the game, and he did a small reaction test to get discussion going.  I think both of these things are more likely to come from town than scum, so he's more likely to be town than scum.

 

With that said, he MIGHT be scum.  There's nothing preventing RNG assigning him a scum role, and he's not confirmed town via cop/flips/some other mechanic.  I'm aware my read could potentially be wrong.  But that's not suspecting him.

 

 

When you said you would actually suspect her, I took that to mean she would now be a scumread.  Like, you have a considerable strike against somebody.  When you say somebody might be scum, I take that to literally mean "might " - it is possible (which is not at all helpful in solving).  That doesn't mean you think it's likely.

[Nynaeve]

 

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

That's what I got out of it.

 

 

Kinda weird to me because apparently it's okay to have bad feelz about her but if I was having good feelz that would have been weird?  Either she has enough content for a read or she doesn't. For better or worse.

[Clovdyx]

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well. Like, I don't know about scum equity, but zasha is reading as hot-headed here.

 

That's why I gave her options.  She chose NOT to take the option that applied specifically to herself.  

[Zashara]

Does that make sense?  I feel like I'm making sense, but I also know what I'm getting at.  

 

Basically, there's a difference between thinking somebody might be scum and actually suspecting them of it.  So I'm trying to figure out how you actually feel about people with early town reads, and more importantly, if you're actually treating people the way your statement suggests you would.

 

Okay that makes a bit more sense now. I don't really make a distinction between the two. So yes, when people have early town reads, I do mark them as suspicious. It comes off as trying to buddy up to someone that you know is innocent so that if they're lynched you can say "oh yeah, I totally said that person was innocent and didn't want to lynch them". 

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't think Zashara is responding greatly here but I got the point she was making in a generic sense.

I feel like zasha's comments are a villager reacting to out-of-left-field pressure.

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Ill comment later but i have some unique thoughts right now that might be useful.

 

And, good vibes fading.

That's Sili for you.

 

 

+1

 

 

+1

[Andrej]

 

 

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

 

That's what I got out of it.

 

Kinda weird to me because apparently it's okay to have bad feelz about her but if I was having good feelz that would have been weird? Either she has enough content for a read or she doesn't. For better or worse.

I really doubt that was the expressed intent of her statement.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

 

That's what I got out of it.

 

Kinda weird to me because apparently it's okay to have bad feelz about her but if I was having good feelz that would have been weird?  Either she has enough content for a read or she doesn't. For better or worse.

Is she the type of person who is paranoid of everyone, that has a list full of suspects before there are villagers? I thought the dichotomy was more a result of her perspective.

[Nynaeve]

I only played with her once.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

Ill comment later but i have some unique thoughts right now that might be useful.

 

 

And, good vibes fading.

That's Sili for you.

 

+1

 

+1

I was getting coffee and phone posting. Stop picking on me!? T_T

[Leelou]

Don't cry. 

[MrsClov]

 

Does that make sense?  I feel like I'm making sense, but I also know what I'm getting at.  

 

Basically, there's a difference between thinking somebody might be scum and actually suspecting them of it.  So I'm trying to figure out how you actually feel about people with early town reads, and more importantly, if you're actually treating people the way your statement suggests you would.

 

Okay that makes a bit more sense now. I don't really make a distinction between the two. So yes, when people have early town reads, I do mark them as suspicious. It comes off as trying to buddy up to someone that you know is innocent so that if they're lynched you can say "oh yeah, I totally said that person was innocent and didn't want to lynch them". 

 

Okay, so by this logic when is it acceptable, in your opinion, to have town reads? 

[Nynaeve]

 

 

 

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

That's what I got out of it.

 

Kinda weird to me because apparently it's okay to have bad feelz about her but if I was having good feelz that would have been weird? Either she has enough content for a read or she doesn't. For better or worse.

I really doubt that was the expressed intent of her statement.

 

 

You just agreed with Sili's interpretation that she didn't think she had enough content for anyone to read her well, correct?   In which case I don't follow why you doubt it.

[Andrej]

@Clov

 

Wouldn't thinking someone is scum more or less be the precursor to suspecting them put that way?

 

I really don't see the difference or the necessity of trying to make one. If you think someone is scum then you suspect them in my book.

[Clovdyx]

 

@Clov

Wouldn't thinking someone is scum more or less be the precursor to suspecting them put that way?

I really don't see the difference or the necessity of trying to make one. If you think someone is scum then you suspect them in my book.

 

Yes.  Thinking someone IS scum is the same as suspecting to me.  Thinking someone MIGHT be scum is not.  

 

It seemed there was a difference from the hypothetical Nyn stance, and this.

 

That I think you all might be scum?

[Andrej]

 

 

 

 

Zasha's meaning was she hadn't posted enough content for anyone to read her well.

 

That's what I got out of it.

 

Kinda weird to me because apparently it's okay to have bad feelz about her but if I was having good feelz that would have been weird? Either she has enough content for a read or she doesn't. For better or worse.

I really doubt that was the expressed intent of her statement.

 

You just agreed with Sili's interpretation that she didn't think she had enough content for anyone to read her well, correct?   In which case I don't follow why you doubt it.

The way you are applying her statement is different than I think how she intended it. She doesn't control what you may or may not find suspicious. However if she believes she hasn't done anything to warrant a town lean then it would be acceptable to be wary of that person giving it when you take into account her personal information and opinion on her participation thus far.