[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Darthe]

^directed at clov, but also works as a response to darthe.

[Darthe]

Screw it.  It can't be -ev which is more than can be said of my last 88 pages.

 

[v] dice [/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

Loki looks real good in that gif.

[dicetosser1]

have you bothered to see where my vote is? It was you after all that asked did anyone NOT have thane as scum.

[dicetosser1]

@darthe

[Darthe]

My argument:

 

Confirmed non-town

Extra day for PR use

Mafia likely removes a candidate from the lynch pool making game-solving easier

Provides extra time

No cost to town

Removes chance of Dice turning on us

Helps confirm Clov once and for all

[Clovdyx]

 

I assumed healer from the post you just made...

 

And that's okay, because I wasn't the protector and was deliberately trying to get their focus on me. 

 

I would argue the healer would be the role that best fits as "the protector".  So no, I wasn't the healer.  

 

Sili - My old role doesn't matter much at this point, but I'm going to hold onto it in case scum didn't get fake claims and somebody wants to claim it.  

 

A claim from King Arthur would be great right about now.  

 

And a good day to you, my friend!

[Clovdyx]

My argument:

 

Confirmed non-town

Extra day for PR use

Mafia likely removes a candidate from the lynch pool making game-solving easier

Provides extra time

No cost to town

Removes chance of Dice turning on us

Helps confirm Clov once and for all

 

I agree with all of this, except I fail to see how it confirms me.

[Darthe]

have you bothered to see where my vote is? It was you after all that asked did anyone NOT have thane as scum.

You understand that that would be  terrible thing right?  Like, if he was unanimously scum that means *SCUM* has him as scum.  Sure, bluffing, etc etc but who wants to put traction on a teammate at lylo?  

 

The counterargument for this is simple and I'm being facetious but really the argument can be made that voting him is sub-optimal today

[Darthe]

 

My argument:

 

Confirmed non-town

Extra day for PR use

Mafia likely removes a candidate from the lynch pool making game-solving easier

Provides extra time

No cost to town

Removes chance of Dice turning on us

Helps confirm Clov once and for all

 

I agree with all of this, except I fail to see how it confirms me.

 

Early game you knew Dice wasn't town and got him to claim.  I thought that was PR based?

[MrsClov]

 

 

I assumed healer from the post you just made...

 

And that's okay, because I wasn't the protector and was deliberately trying to get their focus on me. 

 

I would argue the healer would be the role that best fits as "the protector".  So no, I wasn't the healer.  

 

Sili - My old role doesn't matter much at this point, but I'm going to hold onto it in case scum didn't get fake claims and somebody wants to claim it.  

 

A claim from King Arthur would be great right about now.  

 

And a good day to you, my friend!

 

 

If you are actually Arthur, that is HILARIOUS. This really doesn't have anything to do with solving the game, but just my own general nerdom.

[dicetosser1]

really? why is it sub optimal to vote someone many people think is mafia? instead you want to get rid of someone who wants to help you. thats dumb.

[Darthe]

Leelou, Yates, Thane.  Prob scum team right there.  

[Darthe]

really? why is it sub optimal to vote someone many people think is mafia? instead you want to get rid of someone who wants to help you. thats dumb.

You're a liability who could be lying about your alignment and who isn't currently helping town to find mafia.

[Clovdyx]

What?  No, I thought I made that clear when I said "Next time, I'll try to make a move earlier so everybody is around to see it."  If I was just posting results, I wouldn't have really thought it to be "a move".  Certainly "And in a strange turn of events, I appear to have gotten a survivor claim out of it,  So C-LOL-vgoat, or something?"  should have given it away.

 

I already showed my work for why I was suspicious of Dice (same post as the move comment).  I thought it was weird you were so confident about him being town, so I figured I'd present it as an investigation result to see how you and he - along with the rest of the game - reacted.  

[Clovdyx]

ITT: I breadcrumb eight different roles, leave rest of game banging their collective heads against the wall.

[Darthe]

Lol clov, this is wonderful.  Do you agree with 1788?

[Darthe]

13k 

[MrsClov]

@Clov-erfield Monster, aside from the previous mention CC possibility, does your role being taken give us any advantage to pinpointing scum? 

[Clovdyx]

Lol clov, this is wonderful.  Do you agree with 1788?

 

I can certainly see it.  I have Thane as a weaker town read, which is partially because I thought he gave pretty genuine feeling notes earlier, and partially because I have too few townies in my POE.  If Dice is telling the truth and my assumption about you proved correct, I had Thane as guaranteed mafia, just based on a numbers thing.  

 

Yates and Leelou I feel pretty comfortable with, but I'm still not giving you and/or Eldrick a pass right now.  

[Clovdyx]

@Clov-erfield Monster, aside from the previous mention CC possibility, does your role being taken give us any advantage to pinpointing scum? 

 

No.

[Darthe]

Town had an item that could have boosted a role and the odds of said role connecting with said item were slim.  Town had an all town lover pair.  There is potentially a survivor.  The only other claimed PR is a lover (really weak PR tbh) and mafia is confirmed to have had a thief or 1x evil priest.  

 

Alanna is a good mod.  This will be balanced so what is missing?  Are both teams really weak?  A 2 person mafia team would be quite a twist but putting hopes in that would be beyond dumb.  

[dicetosser1]

 

really? why is it sub optimal to vote someone many people think is mafia? instead you want to get rid of someone who wants to help you. thats dumb.

You're a liability who could be lying about your alignment and who isn't currently helping town to find mafia.

 

 

 

Leelou, Yates, Thane.  Prob scum team right there.  

 

Look who you list as scum and look who im voting for crying out loud. AND i think i was the first vote on him! I gave you, freely, my role and character... and im voting someone even YOU think is mafia...what the hell more do you want?

[Sili Quirrels]

Town had an item that could have boosted a role and the odds of said role connecting with said item were slim.  Town had an all town lover pair.  There is potentially a survivor.  The only other claimed PR is a lover (really weak PR tbh) and mafia is confirmed to have had a thief or 1x evil priest.  

 

Alanna is a good mod.  This will be balanced so what is missing?  Are both teams really weak?  A 2 person mafia team would be quite a twist but putting hopes in that would be beyond dumb.  

Even with your role factored in?

[dicetosser1]

mafia didnt have a thief. at least i doubt it. I was sposed to steal excalibur if i could. No idea why tho as it apparently would have done nothing for me.