[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Leelou]

 

Really guys? 

I don't but it makes sense if he does.

 

 

Not what that was about. More about me being the one to pick a lynch. 

[Leelou]

 

Really guys? 

You town?

 

Yes. 

[Sili Quirrels]

You're town.

 

h5 leelou.

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't really want to vote Dice without a mafia lynch tbh. One of these below is the way I'm going (no at this point I don't think everyone listed is scum). I want to know who would follow me on which lynch. 

 

Who would vote for Thane if I voted Thane? 

 

Who would vote for Yates if I voted Yates? 

 

Who would vote for Darthe if I voted Darthe? 

 

Who would vote for Eldrick if I voted Eldrick? 

I'd follow on any but Darthe.

[Sili Quirrels]

Just an fyi, eldrick will snap vote me when he get's in.

[Darthe]

I don't really want to vote Dice without a mafia lynch tbh. One of these below is the way I'm going (no at this point I don't think everyone listed is scum). I want to know who would follow me on which lynch. 

 

Who would vote for Thane if I voted Thane? 

 

Who would vote for Yates if I voted Yates? 

 

Who would vote for Darthe if I voted Darthe? 

 

Who would vote for Eldrick if I voted Eldrick? 

You're listing the scum team and me so... yeah but I'll say that it's better to go on Dice than eldrick.  Really better than any of them but I get that bleeding hearts gonna bleed.  Just know I'll probably hate everyone post game when it invariably bites us in the ass.

[Darthe]

Just an fyi, eldrick will snap vote me when he get's in.

I don't think he will actually.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Just an fyi, eldrick will snap vote me when he get's in.

I don't think he will actually.

 

Why wouldn't he?

[Darthe]

 

 

Really guys? 

I don't but it makes sense if he does.

 

 

Not what that was about. More about me being the one to pick a lynch. 

 

You're the middle townie here, not top of the list or even close.  If I want someone to pick a lynch besides myself today we follow one of mrs clov or bfg.  

[Leelou]

Numbers wise, I'd feel better to get rid of a scum first, then Dice. 

[Darthe]

 

 

Just an fyi, eldrick will snap vote me when he get's in.

I don't think he will actually.

 

Why wouldn't he?

 

You're not important enough to blatantly out the scum team over and there's always that chance that Leelou is lying and he is town (sub 1%)

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Really guys? 

I don't but it makes sense if he does.

 

 

Not what that was about. More about me being the one to pick a lynch. 

 

You're the middle townie here, not top of the list or even close.  If I want someone to pick a lynch besides myself today we follow one of mrs clov or bfg.  

 

 

Do you not see the vote count? 

[Darthe]

Numbers wise, I'd feel better to get rid of a scum first, then Dice. 

Want me to crunch those to show it being objectively better to lynch Dice or can we just agree on it?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Really guys? 

I don't but it makes sense if he does.

 

 

Not what that was about. More about me being the one to pick a lynch. 

 

You're the middle townie here, not top of the list or even close.  If I want someone to pick a lynch besides myself today we follow one of mrs clov or bfg.  

 

 

Do you not see the vote count? 

 

No actually I've got no clue where one is.

[Leelou]

4 on Dice

4 on Sili 

I'm the only one not voting. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

Just an fyi, eldrick will snap vote me when he get's in.

I don't think he will actually.

 

Why wouldn't he?

 

You're not important enough to blatantly out the scum team over and there's always that chance that Leelou is lying and he is town (sub 1%)

 

I kind of feel like once I'm gone scum will have a quick day at 3-3-1 to convince dice to lynch a villager.

[Darthe]

4 on Dice

4 on Sili 

I'm the only one not voting. 

I see.  That's relevant, but you have to get this whole 3p thing really neutering our ability to lynch if we are wrong today.  If we don't take out dice it is game over if we are wrong.  If we do then we have tomorrow and either way we need every townie to achieve a lynch as is so he isn't actually floating us any wriggle room atm he is just irrelevant.  

 

You could convince us all to agree on Thane.  Yates you might not get consensus.  Eldrick you'd be down one or two (myself included).  Sili is reckless and risky for town.  I'd say if you're town and want to lead it's Dice or Thane today imo.

[Darthe]

Numbers (3 mafia assumed):

 

5 town, 3 mafia, 1 3p.  9 total.  5 to lynch.

 

Mislynch

 

4 town, 3 mafia, 1 3p.

 

NK

 

3 town, 3 mafia, 1 3p.  7 total.  4 to lynch.  Can't win without Dice helping us.  Mafia claims on thread, says if he doesn't side with them they'll lose but they'll NK him too so he will lose.

 

 

That's worst case scenario but, as you can see, if we aren't positive that we have mafia (and close though we may be we are NOT positive) it means Dice is safer.

[Leelou]

3p?

[Leelou]

oh, nevermind. 

[Eldrick4221]

Are you trying to say you lied about your role, that you have one of the two or that you have two roles where everyone else has one?

Or none. Some of us are vanilla.

I really think we found a scum here.

[v]Sili[/v]

 

I also think it's worth mentioning that the mafia will want Dice alive. They will want him at the end to side with them in order to survive. We should look at who is pushing for his lynch and who isn't. I'm willing to bet there's scum in the ones not trying to kill him.

[Sili Quirrels]

gg

[dicetosser1]

Thane? What about him pushing the dice lynch? Why would scum want to give the town an extra opportunity to lynch someone else? Its at least clear why dice is on his wagon and the reason isnt that dice is scum hunting. He has a wincon to fulfill.

 

I addressed this below. Mafia probably want me dead more then town does.

 

Where did you go?

 

Ill ask a third question. He would have been fine without the sorcerer claim and doubly so without explaining it. Why would he weaken his position immensely nd open himself up to counter claims a second time if he was a wolf?

 

I could always be wrong but at least im still thinking about these things.

 

i think he was trying to hammer his claim home and overplayed his hand.

 

Took two minutes to respond to my first question and twelve to reapond to that next one where an agree or disagree would suffice... youre currently online here.

 

WTL Thane but only if people wont go dice.

 

You seem to be getting rather desperate here Darthe. Feeling a bit worried?

 

i'm trying to give you my point of view on it without a lot of coffee.

 

in short: I think Sili messed up his claim. If he'd been town, he could have just checked his role PM and be accurate. Seeing it is not, i suspect it being made up.

 

for Dice: so far i've seen a lot of worrying about dice possibly siding with scum. But all we need to do is convince him to win with town.

 

I think ive made it pretty clear that im siding with Town for a win. Like ALL GAME clear

 

 

I don't really want to vote Dice without a mafia lynch tbh. One of these below is the way I'm going (no at this point I don't think everyone listed is scum). I want to know who would follow me on which lynch. 

 

Who would vote for Thane if I voted Thane? 

 

Who would vote for Yates if I voted Yates? 

 

Who would vote for Darthe if I voted Darthe? 

 

Who would vote for Eldrick if I voted Eldrick? 

I'd follow on any but Darthe.

 

 

Darthe is the only one id consider right now but im not moving.

 

Im calling it now   Darthe and Sili both mafia.

 

Take a look at the red there.Sili has been hounding Darthe wiothout ever really doing anything about him ALL GAME. now suddenly he's the one he WONT go for? FOS. Suddenly this day they have been on the same page. both screaming to lynch me for no reason other then im survivor. A survivor who has said all along he is siding with Town. So mafia would REALLY want me dead now, TOWN shouldn't.

 

And note that BFG voted me, gave NO reason and in fact I dont think she even MENTIONED me in that post except to vote me.

[Darthe]

Here is what happens if we get mafia today with Dice alive.

 

 

5 town, 3 mafia, 1 3p.  9 total. 5 to lynch.

 

Lynch

 

5 town, 2 mafia, 1 3p.  8 total.

 

NK

 

4 town, 2 mafia, 1 3p.  7 total.  4 to lynch.  Dice isn't in the way but we aren't in a better voting position.  It still requires consensus from us to get any lynch.  This trend will continue until we end the game and should we ever lose a townie we will need him (save for running two mafia in a row which will give us a 1 day reprieve assuming we can hit mafia that day (aka not helpful)).

 

 

 

 

Here is what happens if we remove Dice

 

 

 

5 town, 3 mafia, 1 3p.  9 total. 5 to lynch.

 

3p lynch

 

5 town, 3 mafia

 

NK

 

4 town, 3 mafia.  4 to lynch.  No better, but we are relying wholely on our own people.  It's not as good as it can be but it's also not as bad.  A mislynch here is no worse for us than it would be mislynching during the current day phase.  There's still only one shot for PR use etc etc.

 

 

[dicetosser1]

lol at Eldrick saying the exact opposite as i did as i was typing