Escape From The Carnival Of Horrors! Game Thread [Mafia Win]

[Red2111]

Thanks Red.

 

Atm I think Leelou and Nolder are more closely linked because of their mutual town reads of each other with little interaction or explanation. They were just kinda there and never questioned or mentioned by one another throughout the thread progression. Big red flag imo.

 

Leelou flips scum and then I think that'll point right to Thane.

 

But lynched scum is lynched scum, after all, so I don't really care what order we go in.

 

I just ask that you guys stay focused and not get spun off into little side arguments since I'm most likely dead come D3.

 

*nods*   Leelou has been giving Kay he same treatment imo, though theres been more interaction between the two of them, than there was Leelou and Nol.  iirc, Leelou was more on the "too early to tell" with Nol, allowing herself to distance from him.  so while i agree that theres a possible connection, Leelou did comment on Nol, she just focused on myself and Kay (and Hallia today) as "bigger fish".

 

one other thing i dislike about Leelou, is how she's stopped poking at Verb.  she was getting her feathers ruffled by him rather a lot in D1, and has distanced herself from him since then.  same goes for Crushluv and her.   these two would have the best reads on her imo, so her distancing from them on thread and having minimal contact with them flags her imo.

 

 

the one thing, out of all of his that isn't sitting well with me at all is Kay.  over half the thread has said "i could vote for her" yet her wagon never gains traction.  this is a classic red flag for me.  i ask again, AJ, what are your thoughts on Kay?

[Kaylee]

@ Sili - putting you in the too wolfy to be wolf pile and i'm seeing you as a "oh shiny" distraction, so i'm not going to get in it with you.  to your point #4 you asked about, i already posted my thoughts on how the Nol interaction with you looks on you, its not my fault you replied to me with out fully catching up.

 

if your town, then shut up and stop trying to drag me into a circle jerk debate that wont land any scum and will just cause a distraction.  if you're scum then keep coming at me.

 

 

 

Tina is lawkclear for me now as well

 

I may have missed something, but why is Tina lawkclear for you now? Just trying to understand your reads.

 

tina was strong today imo.  mostly i had her in the null to scum for the clearing sili stuff,  she's since given a strong townie game imo and there are people, like yourself, who have more reasons for pressure than that.   shes not as lawkclear as Verb or AJ, but she's in the "not going to vote for" pile from me at this point.

 

Leelou and Thane next imo.

 

 

i've been good with pressure on these two from D1, i say we get us some competing wagons D3, see what pressure brings *nods*  Thane over Leelou atm, because Thane has been doing the constant "i'm here but need to catch up" content.

 

i'm still not feeling good about Kay though, especially with her having a go at me about my vote with Nol.  felt like trying to use his flip to set up a lynch attempt on a townie to try and salvage losing a scum-mate.  and given how hard Nol was going at Sili, Kay's beginning sidelining herself with Sili and pushing his WIFOMy convo feels even more off.

Red i already explained why i had questioned your vote on Nol. I had thought you started the train and was curious why you hadn't gone for your stronger read.

 

You're one who can fool me. So yes if I see something that seems off about how you vote I'm going to point it out.

[Red2111]

 

@ Sili - putting you in the too wolfy to be wolf pile and i'm seeing you as a "oh shiny" distraction, so i'm not going to get in it with you.  to your point #4 you asked about, i already posted my thoughts on how the Nol interaction with you looks on you, its not my fault you replied to me with out fully catching up.

 

if your town, then shut up and stop trying to drag me into a circle jerk debate that wont land any scum and will just cause a distraction.  if you're scum then keep coming at me.

 

 

Tina is lawkclear for me now as well

I may have missed something, but why is Tina lawkclear for you now? Just trying to understand your reads.

 

tina was strong today imo.  mostly i had her in the null to scum for the clearing sili stuff,  she's since given a strong townie game imo and there are people, like yourself, who have more reasons for pressure than that.   shes not as lawkclear as Verb or AJ, but she's in the "not going to vote for" pile from me at this point.

 

Leelou and Thane next imo.

 

i've been good with pressure on these two from D1, i say we get us some competing wagons D3, see what pressure brings *nods*  Thane over Leelou atm, because Thane has been doing the constant "i'm here but need to catch up" content.

 

i'm still not feeling good about Kay though, especially with her having a go at me about my vote with Nol.  felt like trying to use his flip to set up a lynch attempt on a townie to try and salvage losing a scum-mate.  and given how hard Nol was going at Sili, Kay's beginning sidelining herself with Sili and pushing his WIFOMy convo feels even more off.

Red i already explained why i had questioned your vote on Nol. I had thought you started the train and was curious why you hadn't gone for your stronger read.

 

You're one who can fool me. So yes if I see something that seems off about how you vote I'm going to point it out.

 

 

i read where you said that, after Nols flip and after you started this dialogue.  it still doesn't discount the opportunistic feeling and suodo defense against Nols lynch it gave off to me though.

 

it came off as you trying to set up my lynch after Nols flip, i pointed this out as one of many scummy things i've seen from you all game.

[Andrej]

 

Thanks Red.

 

Atm I think Leelou and Nolder are more closely linked because of their mutual town reads of each other with little interaction or explanation. They were just kinda there and never questioned or mentioned by one another throughout the thread progression. Big red flag imo.

 

Leelou flips scum and then I think that'll point right to Thane.

 

But lynched scum is lynched scum, after all, so I don't really care what order we go in.

 

I just ask that you guys stay focused and not get spun off into little side arguments since I'm most likely dead come D3.

 

*nods*   Leelou has been giving Kay he same treatment imo, though theres been more interaction between the two of them, than there was Leelou and Nol.  iirc, Leelou was more on the "too early to tell" with Nol, allowing herself to distance from him.  so while i agree that theres a possible connection, Leelou did comment on Nol, she just focused on myself and Kay (and Hallia today) as "bigger fish".

 

one other thing i dislike about Leelou, is how she's stopped poking at Verb.  she was getting her feathers ruffled by him rather a lot in D1, and has distanced herself from him since then.  same goes for Crushluv and her.   these two would have the best reads on her imo, so her distancing from them on thread and having minimal contact with them flags her imo.

 

 

the one thing, out of all of his that isn't sitting well with me at all is Kay.  over half the thread has said "i could vote for her" yet her wagon never gains traction.  this is a classic red flag for me.  i ask again, AJ, what are your thoughts on Kay?

 

The 'bigger fish' thing is kind of what I'm talking about when it comes to her focus. She basically ignored and was town reading a player we all know now is scum despite thread progress, so imo, that brings her to #1 for the rope next. I think Verb and Crusher would probably agree with your point there as well. I'll be extremely surprised if Leelou isn't Mafia this game.

 

Kaylee is scummy in a generic sense I think, which explains why people mention her a lot and makes her somewhat lynch bait as a townie. I usually am unsure of her because of how she cases and has a tendency to repeat stuff others have said and bandwagon votes, but seeing who has targeted her this round I feel fairly comfortable that she isn't Mafia. She's done a good job trying to explain and clarify herself and I don't get the sense that she's being manipulative.

 

Basically, I would be fine leaving her for now until we lynch Leelou and Thane. If the game isn't over by then, re-evulation will be needed.

[Kaylee]

 

red likes to start fights too much.

 

 

 you're just now realizing this?   theres a lot of reasons why i'm called a bulldog here, only one is my "not letting go of somethign when i bite".  another is my argoness for winning on this game.

 

i like to fight, but only when theres a point to it.  fighting with you, since your too wolfy to be a wolf, is pointless and will do nothing but distract the town (which is what Nol was trying to do)

Your bulldog on me is why I'm thinking you're town.

[Red2111]

 

 

red likes to start fights too much.

 

 you're just now realizing this?   theres a lot of reasons why i'm called a bulldog here, only one is my "not letting go of somethign when i bite".  another is my argoness for winning on this game.

 

i like to fight, but only when theres a point to it.  fighting with you, since your too wolfy to be a wolf, is pointless and will do nothing but distract the town (which is what Nol was trying to do)

Your bulldog on me is why I'm thinking you're town.

 

 

i'm not bulldogging on you to bull dog.  i'm locked on you cause i legit think your scum.

 

if you only have me as town because going at you, thats a poor reason to have me as town imo

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

1. Verbal32 - Town

2. Sili Quirrels - not sure honestly keep going back and forth, will look at him more tomorrow night.

3. Thane Vakarian - an

other i need to look back on.

4. Hallia - Null to scum. Leaning scum from the EOD and lack of content. I know she's done that as town too though so hoping she comes back soon...

5. Nolder- another one I keep going back and forth on. Leaning town atm.

6. TinaHel- town lean

7. The Crusher- first game together so Unsure need to go back through.

9. Leelou- Leaning scum. Mostly has to do with my strong town read of Verb and his feelings on her tbh.

10. Kaylee

11. Andrej- feeling town but the exchange with Verbal has me questioning that...

13. Red2111- IDK. Really need to read back through. I liked her bulldog reaction on me. Made it fell like her town game but will read through again.

Quoting this for easy reach later when I can get on and look deeper.

Ok so now have Verb, Tina and AJ as town.

Hally I'm waiting to hear what she says but have her as null to scum atm.

Thane and Crusher I really need to look back at as they've not said much.

Red I'm feeling better about. Basically a weaker town lean but still thinking I was wrong on her before.

That leaves Sili and Leelou. I've been leaning scum on LeeLou for awhile now. Thinking i need to go back to look at her again.

As far as Sili I think his back and forth with Nol feels like him trying to put dirt on Sili but I could be wrong there. Will likely go back through his as well.

 

 

Let me clarify. When I talk about Nol putting the dirt on Sili here i mean to say I feel it makes Sili more likely town.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Red.

 

Atm I think Leelou and Nolder are more closely linked because of their mutual town reads of each other with little interaction or explanation. They were just kinda there and never questioned or mentioned by one another throughout the thread progression. Big red flag imo.

 

Leelou flips scum and then I think that'll point right to Thane.

 

But lynched scum is lynched scum, after all, so I don't really care what order we go in.

 

I just ask that you guys stay focused and not get spun off into little side arguments since I'm most likely dead come D3.

 

 

*nods*   Leelou has been giving Kay he same treatment imo, though theres been more interaction between the two of them, than there was Leelou and Nol.  iirc, Leelou was more on the "too early to tell" with Nol, allowing herself to distance from him.  so while i agree that theres a possible connection, Leelou did comment on Nol, she just focused on myself and Kay (and Hallia today) as "bigger fish".

 

one other thing i dislike about Leelou, is how she's stopped poking at Verb.  she was getting her feathers ruffled by him rather a lot in D1, and has distanced herself from him since then.  same goes for Crushluv and her.   these two would have the best reads on her imo, so her distancing from them on thread and having minimal contact with them flags her imo.

 

 

the one thing, out of all of his that isn't sitting well with me at all is Kay.  over half the thread has said "i could vote for her" yet her wagon never gains traction.  this is a classic red flag for me.  i ask again, AJ, what are your thoughts on Kay?

To be honest with everyone that had me on their WTL pile I expected to be lynched before now. Just saying I found it odd.

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

@ Sili - putting you in the too wolfy to be wolf pile and i'm seeing you as a "oh shiny" distraction, so i'm not going to get in it with you.  to your point #4 you asked about, i already posted my thoughts on how the Nol interaction with you looks on you, its not my fault you replied to me with out fully catching up.

 

if your town, then shut up and stop trying to drag me into a circle jerk debate that wont land any scum and will just cause a distraction.  if you're scum then keep coming at me.

 

 

 

 

 

Tina is lawkclear for me now as well

 

I may have missed something, but why is Tina lawkclear for you now? Just trying to understand your reads.

 

tina was strong today imo.  mostly i had her in the null to scum for the clearing sili stuff,  she's since given a strong townie game imo and there are people, like yourself, who have more reasons for pressure than that.   shes not as lawkclear as Verb or AJ, but she's in the "not going to vote for" pile from me at this point.

 

Leelou and Thane next imo.

 

 

i've been good with pressure on these two from D1, i say we get us some competing wagons D3, see what pressure brings *nods*  Thane over Leelou atm, because Thane has been doing the constant "i'm here but need to catch up" content.

 

i'm still not feeling good about Kay though, especially with her having a go at me about my vote with Nol.  felt like trying to use his flip to set up a lynch attempt on a townie to try and salvage losing a scum-mate.  and given how hard Nol was going at Sili, Kay's beginning sidelining herself with Sili and pushing his WIFOMy convo feels even more off.

Red i already explained why i had questioned your vote on Nol. I had thought you started the train and was curious why you hadn't gone for your stronger read.

You're one who can fool me. So yes if I see something that seems off about how you vote I'm going to point it out.

 

i read where you said that, after Nols flip and after you started this dialogue.  it still doesn't discount the opportunistic feeling and suodo defense against Nols lynch it gave off to me though.

 

it came off as you trying to set up my lynch after Nols flip, i pointed this out as one of many scummy things i've seen from you all game.

Basically quoted this to say I agree about Sili.

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

red likes to start fights too much.

 

 

 you're just now realizing this?   theres a lot of reasons why i'm called a bulldog here, only one is my "not letting go of somethign when i bite".  another is my argoness for winning on this game.

 

i like to fight, but only when theres a point to it.  fighting with you, since your too wolfy to be a wolf, is pointless and will do nothing but distract the town (which is what Nol was trying to do)

Your bulldog on me is why I'm thinking you're town.

 

i'm not bulldogging on you to bull dog.  i'm locked on you cause i legit think your scum.

 

if you only have me as town because going at you, thats a poor reason to have me as town imo

I know. That's my point. I feel your bulldog on me is legit and therfore you're on your town meta for me. That's why I feel your town. I know I've come across scummy. I've really struggled up to this point to get a good read on too many people.

 

 

  

@ Sili - putting you in the too wolfy to be wolf pile and i'm seeing you as a "oh shiny" distraction, so i'm not going to get in it with you.  to your point #4 you asked about, i already posted my thoughts on how the Nol interaction with you looks on you, its not my fault you replied to me with out fully catching up.

 

if your town, then shut up and stop trying to drag me into a circle jerk debate that wont land any scum and will just cause a distraction.  if you're scum then keep coming at me.

 

 

 

 

 

Tina is lawkclear for me now as well

 

I may have missed something, but why is Tina lawkclear for you now? Just trying to understand your reads.

 

tina was strong today imo.  mostly i had her in the null to scum for the clearing sili stuff,  she's since given a strong townie game imo and there are people, like yourself, who have more reasons for pressure than that.   shes not as lawkclear as Verb or AJ, but she's in the "not going to vote for" pile from me at this point.

 

Leelou and Thane next imo.

 

 

i've been good with pressure on these two from D1, i say we get us some competing wagons D3, see what pressure brings *nods*  Thane over Leelou atm, because Thane has been doing the constant "i'm here but need to catch up" content.

 

i'm still not feeling good about Kay though, especially with her having a go at me about my vote with Nol.  felt like trying to use his flip to set up a lynch attempt on a townie to try and salvage losing a scum-mate.  and given how hard Nol was going at Sili, Kay's beginning sidelining herself with Sili and pushing his WIFOMy convo feels even more off.

Except I've been leaning as you being town before I questioned you on your Nol vote.

[Kaylee]

I agree about Leelou. She's one of my other scum reads and has been.

[Sili Quirrels]

Pretty sure Lee is outed to Hallia if Hallia is town. That business about voting her over Nolder and then dropping out for the day is too suspicious.

[Leelou]

 

The 'bigger fish' thing is kind of what I'm talking about when it comes to her focus. She basically ignored and was town reading a player we all know now is scum despite thread progress, so imo, that brings her to #1 for the rope next. I think Verb and Crusher would probably agree with your point there as well. I'll be extremely surprised if Leelou isn't Mafia this game.

 

 

 

Be prepared to be surprised then after you lynch me. Y'all pretty much have written my death sentence, but I'll still give reads in the morning. Too tired now. 

[Thane Vakarian]

so.... wow.... i missed an entire day..... sorry guys and girls; RL snuck up to me and had me too busy over the weekend.

 

Good job on Nolder *applauds* 

 

I'm at work, will try to catch up (though, i have 7 pages of legal text to translate from french to dutch today, during regular work)

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

The 'bigger fish' thing is kind of what I'm talking about when it comes to her focus. She basically ignored and was town reading a player we all know now is scum despite thread progress, so imo, that brings her to #1 for the rope next. I think Verb and Crusher would probably agree with your point there as well. I'll be extremely surprised if Leelou isn't Mafia this game.

 

 

 

Be prepared to be surprised then after you lynch me. Y'all pretty much have written my death sentence, but I'll still give reads in the morning. Too tired now. 

 

Is this to say you aren't conceding?

 

Joking aside, I'm not 100% set on lynching you. I hope you'll show me your town side tomorrow and we can lynch scum together.

[Sili Quirrels]

so.... wow.... i missed an entire day..... sorry guys and girls; RL snuck up to me and had me too busy over the weekend.

 

Good job on Nolder *applauds* 

 

I'm at work, will try to catch up (though, i have 7 pages of legal text to translate from french to dutch today, during regular work)

You're outed. So shhh before you out your partner as well.

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

So I'm not allowed to joke with you at all this game? Got it.

 

 

 

You seem on edge.  Not liking this vibe.

 

Because no matter what I say Verb is throwing it in my face and it's annoying me. I have a pretty good feeling from him, but I'm not liking this. 

 

Red, you did move Tina down from Null to Town to just null.  You also moved Nol down, but I don't see a reason why. Other than that, there hasn't really been significant movement in your lists.

 

 

 

So she also points out the Tina thing on Red. She was already voting Red here just noting it.

 

 

 

 

 

this still doesn't discount Kay's vote reason.  "Secondly in your original thoughts you had Tina, Dice and Crusher were your top candidates. Roughly 2 hours later your reads list had Tina as null to town saying she wasn't scummy."

 

do you agree with this reason, thats based off an initial joke post list?

 

 

Yes, but she wasn't the only one to vote based off your joke. I believe Dice did as well. He's since removed that vote but really hasn't added much to the game. 

 

I'm liking your responses so far and could vote for Kaylee, I've been meh on her all game. She seems really wishy washy. 

 

[unvote]

Now she likes Red and unvotes. This strikes me as odd though because she herself pointed out the joke from Red about Tina as if it was sword serious. She also brings Dice to the focus. "He did this too guys".

 

 

 

 

 

How does red's read list have anything to do with yours?

And how do meh feelings and popular discent equate to lynching someone?

Plus why would you say that and not vote her?

 

 

You were trying to say I was agreeing with Red after the fact, which no, I wasn't. I've been there with Kaylee. 

 

Because she's been back tracking and moving when she gets questions on any of her votes, no real conviction. 

 

I will vote when I'm ready to vote.

 

 

Wanted to point this out. She backs off Red after she explains herself. No big deal as I did the same. But that's just it. Pot meet Kettle.

 

 

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

Added this one to show how she was suspicious of me for being wishy washy and Hally for lack of content. Basically that would make me the stronger scum read yet she votes for Hally? Doesn't make much sense Especially since she was just focusing on me before this.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

so.... wow.... i missed an entire day..... sorry guys and girls; RL snuck up to me and had me too busy over the weekend.

 

Good job on Nolder *applauds* 

 

I'm at work, will try to catch up (though, i have 7 pages of legal text to translate from french to dutch today, during regular work)

You're outed. So shhh before you out your partner as well.

 

I am? OoOOooOoOOo... i gotta be careful then... *sarcasm*

[Leelou]

one other thing i dislike about Leelou, is how she's stopped poking at Verb.  she was getting her feathers ruffled by him rather a lot in D1, and has distanced herself from him since then.  same goes for Crushluv and her.   these two would have the best reads on her imo, so her distancing from them on thread and having minimal contact with them flags her imo.

 

I'm just going to make a point about this, because it's really freaking annoying me, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ON FOR D2. Crusher was barely on and it's the weekend so Verb hasn't been on for us to have any dialog. SO NO I'M NOT DISTANCING FROM THEM. Yes, I'm annoyed by this. A lot. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Do you want me to kill Leelou tonight? I'd rather kill Thane though...

[Leelou]

 

 

 

The 'bigger fish' thing is kind of what I'm talking about when it comes to her focus. She basically ignored and was town reading a player we all know now is scum despite thread progress, so imo, that brings her to #1 for the rope next. I think Verb and Crusher would probably agree with your point there as well. I'll be extremely surprised if Leelou isn't Mafia this game.

 

 

 

Be prepared to be surprised then after you lynch me. Y'all pretty much have written my death sentence, but I'll still give reads in the morning. Too tired now. 

 

Is this to say you aren't conceding?

 

Joking aside, I'm not 100% set on lynching you. I hope you'll show me your town side tomorrow and we can lynch scum together.

 

 

Going to try my best. 

[Leelou]

 

 

 

So I'm not allowed to joke with you at all this game? Got it.

 

 

You seem on edge.  Not liking this vibe.

 

Because no matter what I say Verb is throwing it in my face and it's annoying me. I have a pretty good feeling from him, but I'm not liking this. 

 

Red, you did move Tina down from Null to Town to just null.  You also moved Nol down, but I don't see a reason why. Other than that, there hasn't really been significant movement in your lists.

 

 

 

So she also points out the Tina thing on Red. She was already voting Red here just noting it.

 

 

 

 

this still doesn't discount Kay's vote reason.  "Secondly in your original thoughts you had Tina, Dice and Crusher were your top candidates. Roughly 2 hours later your reads list had Tina as null to town saying she wasn't scummy."

 

do you agree with this reason, thats based off an initial joke post list?

 

Yes, but she wasn't the only one to vote based off your joke. I believe Dice did as well. He's since removed that vote but really hasn't added much to the game. 

 

I'm liking your responses so far and could vote for Kaylee, I've been meh on her all game. She seems really wishy washy. 

 

[unvote]

Now she likes Red and unvotes. This strikes me as odd though because she herself pointed out the joke from Red about Tina as if it was sword serious. She also brings Dice to the focus. "He did this too guys".

 

 

 

 

How does red's read list have anything to do with yours?

And how do meh feelings and popular discent equate to lynching someone?

Plus why would you say that and not vote her?

 

You were trying to say I was agreeing with Red after the fact, which no, I wasn't. I've been there with Kaylee. 

 

Because she's been back tracking and moving when she gets questions on any of her votes, no real conviction. 

 

I will vote when I'm ready to vote.

 

 

Wanted to point this out. She backs off Red after she explains herself. No big deal as I did the same. But that's just it. Pot meet Kettle.

 

 

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

Added this one to show how she was suspicious of me for being wishy washy and Hally for lack of content. Basically that would make me the stronger scum read yet she votes for Hally? Doesn't make much sense Especially since she was just focusing on me before this.

 

 

Because I was trying to pressure Hallia to see how she'd react and she if she'd bring her town game or not. She still hasn't. 

[Kaylee]

That wasn't my only point against you Leelou.

[Kaylee]

I'll wait till you state your reads. I'd be just as happy to go for Thane as I have him as possible scum.

 

I'd still like Hally to say why she has her scum pile as scum. I'd also like to hear more from Crusher.

[Sili Quirrels]

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[Leelou]

The stuff about Red? If you go back and look at Red's lists, after her joke thing, she moved Tina around in her piles from "Null to town" to just "Null" and it was after she said she didn't move her. I unvoted her after her responses, but I haven't been happy with her most of the game. I've pointed out a couple times where she put words in my mouth. She was saying that you voted her for her joke and I also said that Dice voted off her joke, which she misinterpreted as me saying that Dice voted her. 

[Andrej]

Sili/Red/Hallia

 

Good game guys.

 

Wifom aside, I don't think any of these players are scum.

 

 

 

D2.2 Vote Count

 

 

Kaylee (1): Red2111

Hallia (2): Leelou, TinaHel

Nolder (2): Andrej, Sili Quirrels

 

Not Voting (6): Verbal32, Thane Vakarian, Hallia, Nolder, The Crusher, Kaylee

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

I thought I voted Red?

 

Eh w/e I'll vote Hallia instead then since deadline is so close. They're both mafia together imo along with Sili.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

This is post reveal, so it's not hugely reliable but working off the assumption that Nolder was still going through old posts to this point, him voting Hallia to make her the lead wagon over himself is pretty much clearing for Hallia imo.

 

D2.4 Vote Count

 

Nolder (5): Andrej, Sili Quirrels, Red2111, Kaylee, TinaHel

Hallia (2): Leelou, Nolder

 

Not Voting (4): Verbal32, Thane Vakarian, Hallia, The Crusher

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

I kinda hope this was Nolder goofing and not realizing he'd been outed yet. Again post-reveal, so could be intentional in the event I'm wrong on my other two reads, but if not then Nolder kinda messed up here.

[Kaylee]

The stuff about Red? If you go back and look at Red's lists, after her joke thing, she moved Tina around in her piles from "Null to town" to just "Null" and it was after she said she didn't move her. I unvoted her after her responses, but I haven't been happy with her most of the game. I've pointed out a couple times where she put words in my mouth. She was saying that you voted her for her joke and I also said that Dice voted off her joke, which she misinterpreted as me saying that Dice voted her.

Il look at that tomorrow.