[Basic]: Be Nice Mafia

[Sili Quirrels]

Thane & bfg maybe?

[Songstress]

Thane & bfg maybe?

I think you're wrong on BFG. Thane is a possible, but I'm more likely to think he's being set up.

[Sili Quirrels]

maybe. if town lynches thane it should be for his content, not night actions.

 

could you remind me why you think bfg is town? i'll get to it eventually in the thread, but i'd like to see where you're coming from at present.

[Songstress]

maybe. if town lynches thane it should be for his content, not night actions.

 

could you remind me why you think bfg is town? i'll get to it eventually in the thread, but i'd like to see where you're coming from at present.

 

"Remind" would imply that I've stated a town read on her previously, which I haven't.  But there are some things that occurred to me during my re-read today to recalibrate.

 

I'll get into more of that later.  I'd like to get BFG, Cass, Yates and Thane into the discussion again before I toss all my thoughts out there.  Further information may color my thinking.

 

Keep going with your thoughts, though, since you're going to be limited on time - I assume you're in Tommy's mashup game starting tomorrow?

[Yates]

 

i thought about it. there are 8 players, so what power roles can you even fit?

 

maybe this implies there's only 1 wolf.

 

So you're thinking zero power roles, 1 mafia?

 

That would certainly be interesting.

 

From the OP:

Find those naughty ponies!

You aren't supposed to be able to use mod flavor to guess at setup. But sometimes you can.

[Sili Quirrels]

lol.

 

btw is it just me or does tress' response there seem tongue in cheek and 'wolfy'.

[Songstress]

lol.

 

btw is it just me or does tress' response there seem tongue in cheek and 'wolfy'.

 

Tongue in cheek is intended.

 

Wolfy is your interpretation I suppose, but we'll see what others have to say.

[Sili Quirrels]

if you're not a wolf then i think you're probing me for information, implying a villagery level of conviction.

 

 

this is good, as long as you bring a good case.

[Clovdyx]

 

maybe. if town lynches thane it should be for his content, not night actions.

 

could you remind me why you think bfg is town? i'll get to it eventually in the thread, but i'd like to see where you're coming from at present.

 

"Remind" would imply that I've stated a town read on her previously, which I haven't.  But there are some things that occurred to me during my re-read today to recalibrate.

 

I'll get into more of that later.  I'd like to get BFG, Cass, Yates and Thane into the discussion again before I toss all my thoughts out there.  Further information may color my thinking.

 

Keep going with your thoughts, though, since you're going to be limited on time - I assume you're in Tommy's mashup game starting tomorrow?

 

 

You should toss some of them out there.  I feel like I don't have enough substance for you to really label you one way or another, so you're stuck in POEville. 

[Sili Quirrels]

clov, i'm missing something from you.

 

what is your read on me?

[Songstress]

 

 

maybe. if town lynches thane it should be for his content, not night actions.

 

could you remind me why you think bfg is town? i'll get to it eventually in the thread, but i'd like to see where you're coming from at present.

 

"Remind" would imply that I've stated a town read on her previously, which I haven't.  But there are some things that occurred to me during my re-read today to recalibrate.

 

I'll get into more of that later.  I'd like to get BFG, Cass, Yates and Thane into the discussion again before I toss all my thoughts out there.  Further information may color my thinking.

 

Keep going with your thoughts, though, since you're going to be limited on time - I assume you're in Tommy's mashup game starting tomorrow?

 

 

You should toss some of them out there.  I feel like I don't have enough substance for you to really label you one way or another, so you're stuck in POEville. 

 

 

I'm not too stressed about the POE for the moment.  We have a solid couple of days for discussion, and I'm in curious mode. 

 

I expect that most people - except Cass, bless her heart - consider me a question mark, and if they want to push me for answers, that's cool, but there are things I'm looking for right now.  I fully expect I'll have more thoughts once everyone is back engaged in the game after the weekend.  

 

Except for those who are being sucked into Tommy's game of doom, who we will probably never see again.

[Yates]

I'm fighting off a cold and drained after 6+ hours of NFL Playoffs and chores. So I'm too lazy to do my typical Yates quote then respond thing...

 

@Cass - I understand that you think I'm buddying you. That's fine. Just be sure to keep two pieces of information in mind as you evaluate that opinion; 1. I have you solid Town for reasons already stated [primarily a level of effort/paranoia/game solving that I can't see being faked by a 1st time scum] and 2. This is a be nice game. I feel like I've been buddying everyone. It's unnatural...

 

@Sili - Serious question; why did you say this: "don't know why the wolves thought jmm would be a power role?" You are a clever pony and I'd like some help understanding your motivation here.

 

@Clov - I think your argument with Sili wrt Thane is [was?] a misunderstanding. It looks like you two may have worked it out but I'm going to give you my impression anyway since I wasn't here to interact/intercede in real time. Sili is saying that Thane didn't bother "reading" JMM, he just saw something he considered a PR hint and dropped all suspicion entirely. I happen to agree with this narrative. Thane said he was "cautious" of JMM having never played with him [in post 98]. Then Thane voted JMM "on a hunch" in post 308 - but never really explained how he got there since the only scum reads he *had* explained at the time were on you and Sili. JMM made his "You will not be happy with the result if you lynch me" post in post 311. Then in post 328 Thane unvotes saying "By what you hint, jmm, you're valuable to town.... if i can understand that, so can the wolves." You were asserting that Thane choosing to believe JMM means Thane decided to read JMM as Town. But I agree with Sili that it wasn't actually a "read" so much as Thane saw a PR hint and decided to abandon the wagon. I actually *am* [usually] the Thane whisperer and I don't recall him accepting PR hints as reason enough to abandon a scum read unless others abandoned first. So, I share in Sili's concern. Otherwise, I like where your head is at.

 

@Thane - Am I wrong about what I just said? I feel like you don't typically accept PR hints on your scum suspects at face value. PR claims? Maybe a different story... What made you bail on JMM? Also, is there something preventing you from posting as often as you typically do? This is a small game so your thoughts and opinions are really super important to share. Like, more important than in the larger games that you were much more active in. I miss you.

 

@Tress - Two questions for you, my lovely: 1. Would you mind explaining to me your read on BFG? I think you have more experience with her than I do and I'd like to know what you are seeing. And 2. Would you mind explaining your Thane read a little more as well? I'm a little confused as I read through your progression on him because sometimes it looks to me like you think he's scum but then you also say he is likely being "set up."

 

@BFG - You are a pretty pony. Won't you come out and play?

[Songstress]

I'm fighting off a cold and drained after 6+ hours of NFL Playoffs and chores. So I'm too lazy to do my typical Yates quote then respond thing...

Feel better!!

 

@Tress - Two questions for you, my lovely: 1. Would you mind explaining to me your read on BFG? I think you have more experience with her than I do and I'd like to know what you are seeing. And 2. Would you mind explaining your Thane read a little more as well? I'm a little confused as I read through your progression on him because sometimes it looks to me like you think he's scum but then you also say he is likely being "set up."

A'ight, I'll do the best I can for now.

 

1) Regarding BFG, I think she's responded well to the pressure you and Clov have put on her, and answered the questions that were raised sufficiently.  I didn't necessarily like parts of her argument against no lynch, but otherwise her end of day engagement was good and it felt like she was trying to resolve question marks.  I really want to hear more from her now that D2 has started, but I am not willing to lynch her today barring a really convincing case or a cop guilty.

 

2) Regarding Thane, he's always a big question mark for me.  I expect he'll come back in and explain his low participation, but that's really a null.  The main reason I think he's a somewhat poor suspect is that I don't believe he'd be clumsy enough to pointedly comment on jmm's PR hint, then nightkill him.  Not to say it's impossible, but it seems like a really amateur move, and as hard a time as I have discerning his alignment most games, I have a lot of respect for his instincts.    He's still in my questionable list, and we definitely need more from him today - hopefully all is well with him and his family, and we'll hear from him within a few hours

[Yates]

Thank you, dear.

The main reason I think he's [Thane] a somewhat poor suspect is that I don't believe he'd be clumsy enough to pointedly comment on jmm's PR hint, then nightkill him.

So why didn't you bonk Sili on the head when he claimed he had no idea why the wolves would think JMM was a PR? Seems like the other side of the Thane coin, yes? The comment after the nk as opposed to the comment before the nk...

[Sili Quirrels]

@Sili - Serious question; why did you say this: "don't know why the wolves thought jmm would be a power role?" You are a clever pony and I'd like some help understanding your motivation here.

 

 

Easy villa points. Plus I had to distance myself from the kill due to a couple things I said and the way things went down at eod.

[Sili Quirrels]

maybe tress and thane. =/

[Sili Quirrels]

or bfg and tress?

[Yates]

 

@Sili - Serious question; why did you say this: "don't know why the wolves thought jmm would be a power role?" You are a clever pony and I'd like some help understanding your motivation here.

Easy villa points. Plus I had to distance myself from the kill due to a couple things I said and the way things went down at eod.

 

LOL - you realize you got 0 Town points for that bad acting performance, yes? And it actually makes you look more suspicious for feeling like you had to act. What am I supposed to do with you...???

[Sili Quirrels]

it wasn't really acting you understand?

[Yates]

it wasn't really acting you understand?

???

No???

[Sili Quirrels]

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'don't know why wolves thought jmm would be a power role' - not acting. i think it was obvious jmm wasn't a power role. i wouldn't have wanted to kill jmm.

[Thane Vakarian]

In for a bit before rush hour at work

 

so, i admit that i thought jmm would be NK'd. He HINTED at a PR, and if i can figure that out, that so can the more seasoned players. I tend to buy PR hints D1, just in case they are true. I'm most certainly not willing to lynch a possible PR D1. 

[Yates]

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'don't know why wolves thought jmm would be a power role' - not acting. i think it was obvious jmm wasn't a power role. i wouldn't have wanted to kill jmm.

Oh. So you're saying you know where JMM hinted but that you didn't believe him to be a PR?

[Songstress]

Thank you, dear.

The main reason I think he's [Thane] a somewhat poor suspect is that I don't believe he'd be clumsy enough to pointedly comment on jmm's PR hint, then nightkill him.

So why didn't you bonk Sili on the head when he claimed he had no idea why the wolves would think JMM was a PR? Seems like the other side of the Thane coin, yes? The comment after the nk as opposed to the comment before the nk...

 

 

You don't interpret my next couple of pages of questioning him following that comment as "bonking him on the head"?  

 

Is your assertion that I'm not trying to ascertain his alignment?

[Sili Quirrels]

on my expectation to be hit 'list'

 

 

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'don't know why wolves thought jmm would be a power role' - not acting. i think it was obvious jmm wasn't a power role. i wouldn't have wanted to kill jmm.

Oh. So you're saying you know where JMM hinted but that you didn't believe him to be a PR?

 

That isn't clear??

 

No, it didn't factor.