[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Thane Vakarian]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:54 PM, WWWwombat said:

I would probably rather lynch Sili than Pral.  But I also feel like a CFD shouldn't be out of the question.  Thane calling my list "good" puts him back on the table, but there are plenty of others I have my eye on.

Wombat, check post 1412 if you want. Never did mean you had a good list, hence recreating one of my own. 

[Kivam]

OK then.  Anyone else want to confirm that Andrej hasn't graduated to "scum do things to look townie"?  No offense, Wombat, but even as town as you've been playing, I'm not taking one person's word for anything in mafia (though this would be a particularly stupid thing to lie about if you are, since you'd get insta-called out on it, so I suppose I can assume it's right until you are called out ... in which case, Adrej, man, time to up your game).

 

 

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:48 PM, WWWwombat said:

 

Yo Kivs:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 8:41 PM, WWWwombat said:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 5:56 PM, TheRagnarok said:

Why is Cass lower? Dpr?

Why is Tress higher? Aj?

 

Ok, I'd like some explanation here. How am I, of all people, at the top of the green list? For those of you who don't know me, I take great pride in not being able to be read by anyone. And I haven't exactly posted a lot.

 

 

Rags, would you believe me if I said I'm getting good juju from you?  And I can usually read you by midgame btw.

Tress looks like town Tress so far but she needs to post more if she doesn't want to start slipping down the list.  Wanna see some more of that incisive Tress-logic.

AJ's early stuff felt like stuff town AJ would say.  He makes a lot of points that make sense but I don't agree with either because I see things a different way or because I think they are too facile.

Cass is null because she had like 1 substantive post at that point.  It was a decent post but overly wordy and self-conscious.  Need to see more of her to get any sort of read.

 

 

 

[Thane Vakarian]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:56 PM, csarmi said:

OK i am hydra with Despo, we got a nice town role...

 

And i still can't follow him. I feel myself wanting to argue with his points.

Dr. Jeckyl &  Mr. Hyde ?

[WWWwombat]

That's because he's gone full Des.  But don't think I'm not gonna hold it against you too to some degree.  I remember Darthe insulting his other hydra head repeatedly when he was scum.

[hazelkrs1]

Cliff notes Csarmi:

 

DPR is continuing to evade direct questions directed at him, and is painting anyone who suspects him as an emotional mess

 

Kivam is fluffing and padding a lot, ranting about stuff not really relevant to gameplay stuff

 

Sili reacted like he normally does to votes on him

 

Pray still hasn't really said anything, but claimed VT

 

Wombat decided to start trolling/being purposefully unhelpful

 

Darthe thinks I'm being "contrived" in how I keep pushing him as a scum read

 

Not many people showing much drive to actually lynch anyone here. Sili and Pray and Kivam are leading trains

[WWWwombat]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:57 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:54 PM, WWWwombat said:

I would probably rather lynch Sili than Pral.  But I also feel like a CFD shouldn't be out of the question.  Thane calling my list "good" puts him back on the table, but there are plenty of others I have my eye on.

Wombat, check post 1412 if you want. Never did mean you had a good list, hence recreating one of my own. 

 

 

If you didn't mean it, then why did you say it?

 

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:57 PM, Kivam said:

 

OK then.  Anyone else want to confirm that Andrej hasn't graduated to "scum do things to look townie"?  No offense, Wombat, but even as town as you've been playing, I'm not taking one person's word for anything in mafia (though this would be a particularly stupid thing to lie about if you are, since you'd get insta-called out on it, so I suppose I can assume it's right until you are called out ... in which case, Adrej, man, time to up your game).

 

npnp

[DPR]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:44 PM, WWWwombat said:

Entire game is on crazy pills.

 

Yes. Yes it is.

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:46 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:40 PM, Cass said:

*Mindsplodes* 

[v] ##Sili [/v]

 

Did you not see DPR condescendingly calling you a puppet multiple times, and implying that you aren't even writing your own posts???

 

 

Des, I openly complimented Cass in the event that her post is of her making. I apologized to her if she's being used as a puppet. There was no shaming.

 

I spoke sarcastically to some points because I believe she's not the author of that post. I figure you or Yates to be the top suspects for that.

 

Although for someone that misses obvious sarcasm, you sure do "catch" a lot...

 

The fact that Yates is now buddying you and supporting your hysterical behavior and points does not speak well for him.

 

The fact that I've avoided getting into emotional flame wars with you is a benefit to the town as I see it. 

[Cass]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:46 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:40 PM, Cass said:

*Mindsplodes* 

[v] ##Sili [/v]

 

Did you not see DPR condescendingly calling you a puppet multiple times, and implying that you aren't even writing your own posts???

 

Nope.

 

I'm just getting to that now.

 

Reaction to follow shortly.

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:55 PM, Cass said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 2:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

It might do some good to mention the way cass is reading people reminds me of what I did in my first game. They're all very associative, and his inquiries are centered around utility scum tells.

 Is this a bad thing? How else do you get a feel for someone being scum, if you've never had the experience of playing in a game?

 

No. I was defending you actually.

 

Because I'm a nice guy I guess.

 

Or because I'm trying to associate myself with you so that when I flip scum you get mislynched --- haha.

 

But no. Just a dose of honesty in a town that's fighting over their lynch like rabid bulldogs.

[Thane Vakarian]

Wombat, it's called csarcasm  

[Cass]

^ in explanation, I have multiple windows of the game open - the one with the reply/post I'm working on, various related links and pages, AND one where I periodically try to keep up with the chat in real time. 

 

Apparently, being a slow poster, I miss a lot in real time. *g*

*doing my best to not get emo* (one thing I HAVE actually been told to avoid)

[WWWwombat]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:00 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Wombat, it's called csarcasm

 

Maybe.  I think this thread could use some Belgian wheat beer btw.

[hazelkrs1]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:56 PM, csarmi said:

OK i am hydra with Despo, we got a nice town role...

 

And i still can't follow him. I feel myself wanting to argue with his points.

Okay I officially don't care about this game anymore. You're in your own now Salami.

[Thane Vakarian]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:02 PM, WWWwombat said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:00 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

Wombat, it's called csarcasm

 

Maybe.  I think this thread could use some Belgian wheat beer btw.

 

[WWWwombat]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:02 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:56 PM, csarmi said:

OK i am hydra with Despo, we got a nice town role...

 

And i still can't follow him. I feel myself wanting to argue with his points.

Okay I officially don't care about this game anymore. You're in your own now Salami.

 

 

Calm down bro:

 

[DPR]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:58 PM, Despothera said:

Cliff notes Csarmi:

 

DPR is continuing to evade direct questions directed at him, and is painting anyone who suspects him as an emotional mess

 

Kivam is fluffing and padding a lot, ranting about stuff not really relevant to gameplay stuff

 

Sili reacted like he normally does to votes on him

 

Pray still hasn't really said anything, but claimed VT

 

Wombat decided to start trolling/being purposefully unhelpful

 

Darthe thinks I'm being "contrived" in how I keep pushing him as a scum read

 

Not many people showing much drive to actually lynch anyone here. Sili and Pray and Kivam are leading trains

 

That first point is wrong...

 

I've answered everyone's questions but yours. You are the only player I am calling an emotional mess.

[WWWwombat]

Meh, you did kinda imply that Cass was getting hot and bothered.  Of course, you also implied that someone else was writing her posts =S

[hazelkrs1]

Wombat you're insulting me more than most here- why do you suddenly care about me being upset?

 

AGAIN- if anyone was actually comprehensively analyzing my points, and telling me where I might be wrong here, or even seeing if I'm coming from a scum POV, it would be one thing.

 

But everyone (besides Yates maybe) is treating me like "crazy ol Despot" who doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't know how to scumhunt. Quite infuriating.

[Kivam]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:54 PM, csarmi said:

Kivam you got up to date reads too?

Sili

Arsis/Pral

[big gap]

Darthe

Thane

Andrej (assuming Wombat's claim holds up)

 

NOT a fan of Hallia's disappearing act, or Stelio's lighter version of the same.  Wombat, Cass, Nyn all seem solid town - use but don't trust.  You and Des are either scum or scum's best friend or unreasonably lucky.  Big muddled middle, which is appropriate for D1, and I wouldn't be particularly surprised if every last one of my thoughts thus far was 100% wrong.  Oh, how I love Day 1.

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:41 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

Sili Quirrels - Did not see the point of the irrational exchange we shared unless it was to further a teammates desire to drag me down. Suspect.

 

 

 I don't see the point in our exchange either, unless you were trying to bring me down. Suspect.

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Sili Quirrels - Did not see the point of the irrational exchange we shared unless it was to further a teammates desire to drag me down. Suspect.

 

[WWWwombat]

I don't think you're coming from a scum PoV as of right now.  But that doesn't mean you're right.  And you're definitely tunneling, which regardless of what you think, does sap your credibility.

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:07 PM, Despothera said:

Wombat you're insulting me more than most here- why do you suddenly care about me being upset?

 

AGAIN- if anyone was actually comprehensively analyzing my points, and telling me where I might be wrong here, or even seeing if I'm coming from a scum POV, it would be one thing.

 

But everyone (besides Yates maybe) is treating me like "crazy ol Despot" who doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't know how to scumhunt. Quite infuriating.

Don't really feel sorry for you.

[DPR]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:07 PM, WWWwombat said:

Meh, you did kinda imply that Cass was getting hot and bothered.  Of course, you also implied that someone else was writing her posts =S

 

I openly stated that Cass (or mystery author) seemed passionate about supporting Des. If Des was the author, this motive would match with his behavior. If another player wrote the post, it's a frame-up of Des, and Yates is in a perfect position to do that.

[hazelkrs1]

  On 11/13/2014 at 4:05 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 11/13/2014 at 3:58 PM, Despothera said:

 

Cliff notes Csarmi:

 

DPR is continuing to evade direct questions directed at him, and is painting anyone who suspects him as an emotional mess

 

Kivam is fluffing and padding a lot, ranting about stuff not really relevant to gameplay stuff

 

Sili reacted like he normally does to votes on him

 

Pray still hasn't really said anything, but claimed VT

 

Wombat decided to start trolling/being purposefully unhelpful

 

Darthe thinks I'm being "contrived" in how I keep pushing him as a scum read

 

Not many people showing much drive to actually lynch anyone here. Sili and Pray and Kivam are leading trains

That first point is wrong...

 

I've answered everyone's questions but yours. You are the only player I am calling an emotional mess.

It's not wrong. You've continuously displayed an evasiveness anytime someone asks you a direct question- it often requires them following up MANY times before you give something resembling a clear answer.

 

And you have also described other people as being "overly emotional" recently.

 

I may be an emotional mess, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong about you.

 

Also- anytime you've actually responded to me in a semi reasonable manner this game, I haven't gone full emo or tried starting a flame war. I highly doubt you'll ever how me a modicum of respect, but I'm nowhere near as ridiculous of a person like you try to act like I am

[Cass]

I'm just gonna come right out and say it now. And I haven't even finished reading all the posts.

 

DPR and Sili - I think you're scum, and that your combined attack on me and my ability or lack thereof to play this game as a total noob is a low, but potentially pretty/very clever attempt at playing on people's uncertainty about me because I'm a noob.

 

There is no reason for anyone to trust me simply on what I say here - and therefore, me replying to each and every one of your personal attacks against me and my ability/implied inability to play would be pointless.

 

I'll admit I almost fell into that trap.

 

But then I remembered: This is a game. I like to win. The way I understood things when Monstr and Dice explained them to me was that aim of the game is to find wolves if you’re town, and create them if you’re not. If I’m town and I’m making you look wolfish … then, well, maybe it’s because you’re looking like a wolf…. 

 

Because, apparently, according to you, my gameplay should not be up to the standard where I could be wolf and making you look wolfish/playing the game that well.

 

You're contradicting yourselves and it totally screams of wolf.

 

 

 

And, FYI EVERYONE - NOBODY BUT ME IS CONSTRUCTING MY POSTS!