[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Tommyrod]

How can you call me a wolf and NEVER interact with me?

[monstrman]

I mean seriously in what universe do I as a wolf openly see everyone going "If anyone clears tom I'm going to come after them and pressure them like crazy"

 

KNOWING MY SCUM META OF HATING PRESSURE ON MYSELF AND ALWAYS FADING INTO THE BACKGROUND AND SLANKING

 

AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CLEAR TOM

 

IN WHAT UNIVERSE

[Tommyrod]

 

monstr

Tommy

Can you give me ITT reasons for either of these greens? I'm not seeing it. And it looks like Sili and Arsis aren't seeing it either.

This sort of "appeal to public opinion" is generically wolfy and also doesn't sound like you as a player.

[Nynaeve]

 VOTE COUNT

 

Team Cuddles (2): Yates, Arsis
Tommy (3): AJ, Sili, Des

AJ (1): Dice
Arsis (3): monstr, Tommy, Cory

 

 

Not Voting: The rest of you lot.

 

 

[Tommyrod]

I mean seriously in what universe do I as a wolf openly see everyone going "If anyone clears tom I'm going to come after them and pressure them like crazy"

 

KNOWING MY SCUM META OF HATING PRESSURE ON MYSELF AND ALWAYS FADING INTO THE BACKGROUND AND SLANKING

 

AND THEN IMMEDIATELY CLEAR TOM

 

IN WHAT UNIVERSE

In about 30 minutes he will claim this was all "for reactions" and I might believe it

 

Going straight at the village spear on early D1 is suicide as a wolf so I don't see the point

[Yates]

You can disagree all you want but calling me a wolf for that is really ridiculous

Woah. Where did I call you a wolf? I said you looked BAD for it. And guess what? You do. If you don't have ITT reasons for clearing Tom, AND you haven't posted those reasons ITT? I'm not the one being "really ridiculous" here.

[Tommyrod]

It's possible Yates is still mad at me for last game and thinks he can turn the tables here by going alpha wolf but that won't work either.

[Arsis]

~4 Wolves in

 

Pral

Alanna

Rags

Arsis

Yates

Key

Dice

Berf

 

So let's try to clear half this list and lunch from the rest

 

Shouldn't be too hard

This post is especially nonsense. 4 wolves in 3/4 of the game. Most of those people haven't posted yet. This is what you post ad scum to pretend scum hunt.

[monstrman]

 

You can disagree all you want but calling me a wolf for that is really ridiculous

Woah. Where did I call you a wolf? I said you looked BAD for it. And guess what? You do. If you don't have ITT reasons for clearing Tom, AND you haven't posted those reasons ITT? I'm not the one being "really ridiculous" here.

 

 

 

 

Tom/monstr/cory

 

 

I guarantee at least 2 scum in that list.

Hally is part of Cory's hydra.  Read some of her posts and honestly tell me those are coming from scum...  I feel pretty good about them at this point in time.  The other two I'm on board with.

 

 

"I agree that the other two are scum"

[Nynaeve]

P.S:  If I accidentally miss a vote, let me know (and a link to it would help a lot).

 

 

also... reminder to self... limit Tommy to one vote per phase in any game I run in the future... because... #HATEOFFIREYPASSION

[Arsis]

It's possible Yates is still mad at me for last game and thinks he can turn the tables here by going alpha wolf but that won't work either.

Ate.

[Tommyrod]

 

You can disagree all you want but calling me a wolf for that is really ridiculous

Woah. Where did I call you a wolf? I said you looked BAD for it. And guess what? You do. If you don't have ITT reasons for clearing Tom, AND you haven't posted those reasons ITT? I'm not the one being "really ridiculous" here.

There's nothing weird or wolfy about Monstr doing what he does best -- clearing villagers -- particularly when I'm coming off two weeks of scum gaming and he can see the difference (presumably).

[Cory Caboose]

 

monstr

Tommy

Can you give me ITT reasons for either of these greens? I'm not seeing it. And it looks like Sili and Arsis aren't seeing it either.

 

ITT? Probably no

 

I couldn't care less what you are ~not seeing or what ~other people are not seeing

 

I'll give my lists when I'm well and ready but there's a 0% we are lynching Tommy or monstr today

[Yates]

KNOWING MY SCUM META OF HATING PRESSURE ON MYSELF AND ALWAYS FADING INTO THE BACKGROUND AND SLANKING

I don't know your scum meta. I think we've only been in one game together, right?

 

And in the universe where scum Manbat abuses his scum meta? Since when is "I would NEVER do X as scum because meta" a convincing argument?

[Tommyrod]

 

~4 Wolves in

 

Pral

Alanna

Rags

Arsis

Yates

Key

Dice

Berf

 

So let's try to clear half this list and lunch from the rest

 

Shouldn't be too hard

This post is especially nonsense. 4 wolves in 3/4 of the game. Most of those people haven't posted yet. This is what you post ad scum to pretend scum hunt.

You can't pretend you don't know what POE is. That's not gonna fly.

[monstrman]

 

KNOWING MY SCUM META OF HATING PRESSURE ON MYSELF AND ALWAYS FADING INTO THE BACKGROUND AND SLANKING

I don't know your scum meta. I think we've only been in one game together, right?

 

And in the universe where scum Manbat abuses his scum meta? Since when is "I would NEVER do X as scum because meta" a convincing argument?

 

 

It's not abusing my scum meta to force pressure onto myself when I'm scum

 

it's literally stupid

[Tommyrod]

 

It's possible Yates is still mad at me for last game and thinks he can turn the tables here by going alpha wolf but that won't work either.

Ate.

This isn't AtE in any sense; it's observation.

[Cory Caboose]

It's possible Yates is still mad at me for last game and thinks he can turn the tables here by going alpha wolf but that won't work either.

 

IRT to Yates I think it's less "underestimating his wolf game" and more "overestimating his villager game"

[monstrman]

JFC #alliance getting railed ITT

 

probably by villagers I'd bet

 

wolves cheering in the background

[Yates]

This post is especially nonsense. 4 wolves in 3/4 of the game. Most of those people haven't posted yet. This is what you post ad scum to pretend scum hunt.

The other part you are missing is how Tommy likes to go after people that go thread absent for a bit. He used my thread absence to take advantage of my slot and Darthe's thread absence to take advantage of HIS slot. I see that already happening here. Combined with the strong arming and fake clearing? Yeah. That's a recipe for scum soup.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

Yet I lock clear tom and suddenly "monstrman is a wolf"

 

I don't like that at all.

I warned you about clearing Tom or Cory for nothing.  You don;'t have to like it.  You just have to accept responsibility for it knowing this would be the consequence.

 

Also, I don't feel like you lock cleared Cory for nothing.  I feel like you lock cleared Cory AND Hally for reasons.  It's either because you saw the thread momentum swinging towards leaning Town on that slot or because you saw some obvious Towning.

 

And this is how you *shrug*

 

 

I feel like Tom is a villager. It's ridiculous to sit there and go

 

"Anyone that clears this slot is a wolf"

 

Honestly that's probably excessively -ev ESPECIALLY if that slot is a villager

 

in my first game with you didn't you go back and forth between tom being scum or not? like it took you a while to put down a village read on him too.

 

 

I can link you to fifteen different games where i've lock cleared people d1 as a villager and my read never faltered

 

your guys' sample size is too small to be making these assessments

 

i'm not making an assessment. i'm just asking what's different.

[Tommyrod]

Here's how I see it:

 

The way Yates is acting right now is suicidal. Does he do this as scum? I don't know.

 

But the way Arsis is egging it on is more likely to come from a wolf.

 

If I had to shoot one of the two right now I would shoot Arsis.

 

But I'm not going to rule out that they could both be dumbass villagers who think they're onto something but are just wasting my time.

[monstrman]

 

This post is especially nonsense. 4 wolves in 3/4 of the game. Most of those people haven't posted yet. This is what you post ad scum to pretend scum hunt.

The other part you are missing is how Tommy likes to go after people that go thread absent for a bit. He used my thread absence to take advantage of my slot and Darthe's thread absence to take advantage of HIS slot. I see that already happening here. Combined with the strong arming and fake clearing? Yeah. That's a recipe for scum soup.

 

 

Tom strongarms as either alignment

 

Tom hardclears as either alignment

 

I have cleared Tom correctly for less than I am clearing him for now

[Tommyrod]

 

This post is especially nonsense. 4 wolves in 3/4 of the game. Most of those people haven't posted yet. This is what you post ad scum to pretend scum hunt.

The other part you are missing is how Tommy likes to go after people that go thread absent for a bit. He used my thread absence to take advantage of my slot and Darthe's thread absence to take advantage of HIS slot. I see that already happening here. Combined with the strong arming and fake clearing? Yeah. That's a recipe for scum soup.

All you're doing is describing aspects of my OVERALL GAME; those are not inclusive to my scum game, and in fact are staples of my VILLAGER GAME since my wolf game IS my villager game (but with the wrong targets).

[monstrman]

 

 

 

 

 

Yet I lock clear tom and suddenly "monstrman is a wolf"

 

I don't like that at all.

I warned you about clearing Tom or Cory for nothing.  You don;'t have to like it.  You just have to accept responsibility for it knowing this would be the consequence.

 

Also, I don't feel like you lock cleared Cory for nothing.  I feel like you lock cleared Cory AND Hally for reasons.  It's either because you saw the thread momentum swinging towards leaning Town on that slot or because you saw some obvious Towning.

 

And this is how you *shrug*

 

 

I feel like Tom is a villager. It's ridiculous to sit there and go

 

"Anyone that clears this slot is a wolf"

 

Honestly that's probably excessively -ev ESPECIALLY if that slot is a villager

 

in my first game with you didn't you go back and forth between tom being scum or not? like it took you a while to put down a village read on him too.

 

 

I can link you to fifteen different games where i've lock cleared people d1 as a villager and my read never faltered

 

your guys' sample size is too small to be making these assessments

 

i'm not making an assessment. i'm just asking what's different.

 

 

Oh

 

Mostly just toan tbh.

 

This feels to me like Town Tom, and honestly modding the entire game watching him wolf and all the plays he was making me think it's probably a correct assessment