[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[Tommyrod]

I haven't had a particularly scummy vibe from either of them though... but not a strong town vibe either.

I really hope Clov didn't slip out of the noose on a lucky fakeclaim. I watched village lose two straight games on POG because one wolf was incorrectly mechanically cleared and they couldn't form any teams that made sense.

But worry about that later.

[Andrej]

Good thing shc isn't a thing here

 

amirite

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]nynavea[/v]

[v]ajax[/v]

[v]verb[/v]

[v]csarmi[/v]

[v]alanna[/v]

[v]despot[/v]

 

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

[v]tomripley[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

[unvote]

[v]Sili Quirrels[/v]

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Sili (5): Clov, Hally, Tommy, Yates, Sili

Des (1): Csarmi

Pral (1): Nyn

Leelou (1): AJ

 

Not Voting (5): Pral, Leelou, Verb, Alanna, Des

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline is Tuesday Oct 21st at 8am MST/PDT

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141021T08&p0=3862&fg1=a39de0&csz=1

 

Sili is at L-2

[Andrej]

Meh.

 

I don't actually feel so bad about Leelou after reading her in ISO.

 

I was going through and quoting some of her earlier posts that I thought were sketchy, but after continuing to read I think she looks okay and really just too busy to be heavily involved in the game. I think she's had some pretty good tone in some places and although I don't necessarily agree with some of her points I don't think her votes look as bad anymore.

I was sketched out before because I felt like she was consistently joining wagons that were already well underway, but I'll admit that she at least provides some reasons that I'm able to follow - although scum are always going to have ~reasons for what they do. I saw that she mentioned she'd be doing some work sometime tonight so I'll be looking forward to that.

 

[unvote]

[Andrej]

There's still little things here and there that bug me, but I couldn't really say what would be within her town/scum ranges.

 

I'm going to go back and read the exchange with Thane again in context because I'm having a hard time letting that piece go. I think at that point voting him wasn't ~hard and I want to say it reminds me of how Leelou/Hallia handled Mish D1 in the Red Wedding game. That was a big thing that tipped Cory off to them and why we viewed him N1 - so I might cross analyze with that as well.

 

Basically I'm afraid of clearing her too easily now because I'm being tinfoil-y and I don't have any other real suspects, and I often times talk myself out of my gut feelings.

[Andrej]

them N1*

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]tom[/v]

[Andrej]

I think Thane, AJ or SP, due to being completely gone.

 

 

3/3 villagers in this post

 

I picked up on this while reading through from pg 148-151

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]tom[/v]

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

I think Thane, AJ or SP, due to being completely gone.

 

3/3 villagers in this post

 

I picked up on this while reading through from pg 148-151

Yarp

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]hai[/v]

 

 

 

 

 

[unvote]

[v]tom[/v]

[Andrej]

 

nice Leelou, real nice.... i hope people will look at that vote afterwards

 

Why do I feel like I'm being scolded? 

 

 

 

 

nice Leelou, real nice.... i hope people will look at that vote afterwards

I approve.

 

So what will we learn from your flip when you flip Town if you aren't going to fight your lynch?

look for the opportunistic voters (like, leelou there) and the ones who pushed me hardest. They'd probably use my meta against me saying something like 'he's using meta as defense, he's scum'.

 

I don't see how I'm being an opportunistic voter. I at first was giving you a chance, but your posts haven't improved. 

 

These two posts still bug me looking at them again. I don't feel like the first one is a legitimate response to Thane and the second one kind of goes in line with my thought earlier about how she didn't adjust her read on Mish in the RW game once she became the lead wagon. I feel like Thane was town telling somewhat on pg 150 after Leelou's vote and there was a decent amount of time before she had to leave afterwards.

 

Bah! I have another freaking meeting. BBL

[hazelkrs1]

I'm still worried Sili is either a Jester or playing towards his town wincon or something- this just seems too bizarre to pull off as scum

[Andrej]

I feel like I'm talking myself in circles around Leelou

 

Gonna read up on the RW game a bit to see if I see any similarities since I know she was a wolf then.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Sili (4): Clov, Hally, Tommy, Yates

Des (1): Csarmi

Pral (1): Nyn

 

Not Voting (6): Pral, Leelou, Verb, Alanna, Des, AJ

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline is Tuesday Oct 21st at 8am MST/PDT

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141021T08&p0=3862&fg1=a39de0&csz=1

 

Sili is at L-3

[Andrej]

I'm still worried Sili is either a Jester or playing towards his town wincon or something- this just seems too bizarre to pull off as scum

 

huh?

[hazelkrs1]

Aj what's your POE looking like atm?

[Andrej]

 

 also claiming when i did allows for more info to be gained from people liek you and Tom, who are continuing to lynch me after i've claimed.

 

You might as well have just claimed like Yates did. You pulled all the attention on yourself with your ridiculous vote on Tommy and ludicrous arguments. I'm not really buying your claim, but I want to go through the thread a bit before throwing a vote out there. 

 

 

Also, very shortly after I pointed out the hypocrisy in Mish basing a scum read on Des on a meta read from a tiny sample, Tress came with her trumped up case on me.  That reads completely disingenuous to me.  It's like they realized on their QT that I had a good point against Mish and then they had to rush to get a case on me.  But they used Tress to make the case because she's been taking heat for low content.  But her case was bad anyway.

 

I agree, Tress and Mish are looking bad right now. I'm just eating and then I'm going to try to get through the thread. Might not be til later tonight.

 

These posts might be insightful to some of the arguments I think Leelou has made this round.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

I'm still worried Sili is either a Jester or playing towards his town wincon or something- this just seems too bizarre to pull off as scum

huh?

1. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt I didn't target Wombat last night

 

2. I really don't see ANY NA shenanigans that would have led him to believe that

 

Knowing both of those, there are three choices here

 

A. Sili is pulling the weakest scum gambit in history

 

B. He's a Jester trying to do everything g he can to get lynched

 

C. He's a townie pulling an incredibly stupid gambit that at this point would essentially be playing against his wincon for how distracting and destructive to towns chances of winning it is

[Andrej]

Something like

 

Leelou

Hallia

 

Verb is another potential

 

Sili maybe just because I have no idea how to feel about him now - I'm afraid he could be telling the truth though and is gonna get speed lynched over it. Or maybe he isn't telling the truth but is still a villager and gets lynched over it. Like I really don't even know at this point

 

I feel like Csarmi is starting to fade a bit, which I don't like. He's been kinda pandering around lately instead of getting solvy with it and I don't like that because he can coast pretty well as a wolf. His post count is also heavily inflated due to his spam and multi-posts

 

Yates/Tom has potential for a wolf imo

[Clovdyx]

 

 

I'm still worried Sili is either a Jester or playing towards his town wincon or something- this just seems too bizarre to pull off as scum

huh?

1. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt I didn't target Wombat last night

 

2. I really don't see ANY NA shenanigans that would have led him to believe that

 

Knowing both of those, there are three choices here

 

A. Sili is pulling the weakest scum gambit in history

 

B. He's a Jester trying to do everything g he can to get lynched

 

C. He's a townie pulling an incredibly stupid gambit that at this point would essentially be playing against his wincon for how distracting and destructive to towns chances of winning it is

 

 

Jester is plausible, but I really question his method for going about it.  Most people were reading him as far more likely to be derpnoobtown D1 than scum.  If he was TRYING to get lynched, I think he could have steered it in that direction.

[Clovdyx]

Something like

 

Leelou

Hallia

 

Verb is another potential

 

Sili maybe just because I have no idea how to feel about him now - I'm afraid he could be telling the truth though and is gonna get speed lynched over it. Or maybe he isn't telling the truth but is still a villager and gets lynched over it. Like I really don't even know at this point

 

I feel like Csarmi is starting to fade a bit, which I don't like. He's been kinda pandering around lately instead of getting solvy with it and I don't like that because he can coast pretty well as a wolf. His post count is also heavily inflated due to his spam and multi-posts

 

Yates/Tom has potential for a wolf imo

 

If he's telling the truth, Des has one phase to live.  

[Andrej]

1. I know beyond the shadow of a doubt I didn't target Wombat last night

2. I really don't see ANY NA shenanigans that would have led him to believe that

 

Knowing both of those, there are three choices here

 

A. Sili is pulling the weakest scum gambit in history

 

B. He's a Jester trying to do everything g he can to get lynched

 

C. He's a townie pulling an incredibly stupid gambit that at this point would essentially be playing against his wincon for how distracting and destructive to towns chances of winning it is

 

A or C imo