[BASIC] Discworld Mafia - MAFIA win

[Yates]

Alright, I'm back. Figured I'd at least have a few hours before night ended to get caught up. :/

 

Guess I'll be reading from page 20 with LouNy!Scum and Cory!Town in mind.

[Yates]

 

 

Has Yates said anything about being absent today?

 

Not that I recall.

 

 

Hmmmm

 

Vote Yates

 

I just want to make a comment on this. I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. You guys have GOT to stop starting trains on absent people. I realize that Cory was one of the people that hopped on the wagon and I realize that he was Town but JC is this terrible play.

 

Like - I can see Town-Krak placing a vote there as a "hey, dude, where you at?" vote. And that's fine. But after that? Gross. I would think Cory would know better. Then again, he also does some shady stuff as traps. So I will concede it's possible he did that just to see who would jump on the wagon and which wagon they were jumping off of. I'll be keeping this in mind as I go through.

[Yates]

Not that he needs any additional support for being obv Town but this is why Dice is Blue.

so with 3 hrs and 10 minutes to go you decide to start a NEW train just because Yates isnt here?  Seriously??

I'm actually surprised Dice wasn't the NK last night, tbh. I think everyone had him as blue while "Cory being Cory" had him in some null/tbd lists. Need to see who Dice was Town reading that Cory wasn't.

[Yates]

I dunno.

Cory switched to Hallia which I thought was weird.

I want to follow because Hallia was my stronger pick anyway but the way Cory voted was off.

I don't recall playing with Cory before, does he usually vote without giving reason?

I don't want to go over there before I have a better idea of wtf is up with Cory.

 

And that's where I'm at right now.

This is what I meant up above. This was another example of Cory voting an inactive. I'm thinking he was reaction testing people. Though, I likely would have questioned him on it as well. *shrug*

[Yates]

But this is bad. You think two votes wouldn't have gotten my attention, Nolder?

I'm torn anyway and not convinced Yates is town.

Let's see if we can catch his attention.

 

[unvote]

[v]Yates[/v]

Also, just out of curiosity, did anyone think to check to see if I was posting anywhere else on site? I'm pretty active in a lot of threads, fyi.

[Yates]

I'm not a fan of this sudden scramble to hit an inactive for the sole reason of a single day of inactivity. Definitely seems scummy to me. On that note, I'm off to bed.

I like that both of my early Town reads are in agreement on this issue. It's probably why they were early Town reads. I recognize actual legitimate Town play.

[Krakalakachkn]

Yeah, I checked and then I didn't check after that bc I don't particularly like using that tactic.

[Verbal32]

Dice is the towniest townie that ever towned.

[Krakalakachkn]

Nolder

[Verbal32]

I still like my original list somewhat.

 

Dice

Mish/Kronos

Barm

Tina

Yates

Nolder

Hallia

Krak

 

That's where I'm at before any significant rereads.

[Verbal32]

My 4 as Cory had requested were going to be Dice, Mish/Kronos, Cory, and Barm.  I think we should still do this.

[Yates]

I would much rather lynch a person that has been involved in alot of discussions on D1. Gives me more to go back and look at when preparing for D2. Interactions is how we find mafia... Wich is why I never agree with policy-lynching inactives. I'm here to find mafia, and I find mafia by analyzing interactions.

Just fyi, and I think I said this before in this game [?], while I agree with you on this? I was a hydra partner with Key in Woodstock Mafia recently where we made our opinion clear that we didn't want to lynch Lenlo just for lurking. His lynch went through anyway and he flipped scum. That lead to our mislynch Day 2. I've learned that DM has a weird meta where scum think it's okay to slank here. This is very different from anywhere else I've ever played.

[Yates]

First off, Nyn, if you're going to try to use my activity against me as proof of my wolfiness, tell me when I've ever been this active as a wolf? Anywhere near this active at all in my entire mafia career? That argument is hogwash and you know it.

FTR - this was why I had a Town lean on Krak earlier. It's obviously meta that could theoretically be abused but then he'd need to do something to make me wonder if that was the case. Remember my whole "face value" thing earlier? Ditto here. I think it would take genuinely scummy play by Krak to make me wonder if he was abusing his meta.

[Yates]

Speaking of which. That makes this vote look bad from Hally.

[unvote]

[v] Krak [/v]

[Krakalakachkn]

It's way better than it used to be, but sometimes it's just the way the cookie crumbles.

[Verbal32]

I'm feeling good.  As long as I'm not wrong on one of my blues, we can't lose this game.

[Verbal32]

^ if somebody thinks I am wrong, please tell me how and why

[Yates]

This was the vote just before deadline:

Current Vote Count :

 

Krak (3): Sexy LouNy , Wolfish, Hallia

 

Nolder (2): Yates, Dice 

 

Sexy LouNy (4): Barm, Tina, Krak, Cory

 

Hallia (1) : Nolder

 

 

Not voting (1): Verb

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

When you lynch a wolf, I'm inclined to look off the wagon. Especially in a two scum setup. So that puts my lynch pool in Wolfish, Hally, and Nolder.

[Yates]

As long as I'm not wrong on one of my blues, we can't lose this game.

All we need are two blues and we win. That's why I was surprised Cory was killed over Dice. At this point we can mislynch today, tomorrow, AND the next day and still win.

[Krakalakachkn]

This is what's up as far as I'm concerned. Feel free to disagree but please do so in a format that engenders discussion.

 

 

Not to be lynched unless the unthinkable happens:

 

Krak

Dice

Misheros

 

 

Should not be lynched unless it comes down to it:

 

Barm

Verb

 

 

Secondary Lynches:

 

Yates

Tina

 

Primary Lynches:

 

Nolder

Hallia

[Barmacral]

When you lynch a wolf, I'm inclined to look off the wagon. Especially in a two scum setup. So that puts my lynch pool in Wolfish, Hally, and Nolder.

 

Interesting that you put wolfish in your scum likelies when the majority all think they are town. Please explain this.

[Yates]

I don't disagree with the bottom 4 [except myself, of course]. One way or another Nolder, Hally, Tina, and I need to get sorted. I would not expect a NK in any of these slots.

 

Not sure why you have yourself [] or Mish above Barm but that's nitpicking. My list would look more like this:

 

Yates

Dice

Barm

 

Verb

Krak

Wolfish

Tina

 

Nolder

Hally

[Yates]

 

When you lynch a wolf, I'm inclined to look off the wagon. Especially in a two scum setup. So that puts my lynch pool in Wolfish, Hally, and Nolder.

 

Interesting that you put wolfish in your scum likelies when the majority all think they are town. Please explain this.

 

That's just based on wagon analysis. I'll be rereading with my focus on this group.

[Krakalakachkn]

Yeah I don't normally put myself in my own lists, but I feel that I've been extraordinarily clear town game (I know some would disagree), and my constant push on LouNy from the get-go to the conclusion pretty much clears me. I'm not going to push this point because it's subjective and likely not terribly convincing, but I wanted to say it so I'm not mislynch #2 or something stupid like that.

[Verbal32]

@Krak - more than some would disagree.  There is no way you are being put down as blue in this game.  No way.

 

We should not put ourselves in our blue lists.  We each have a list, compare, and lynch from the bottom.