[BASIC] Discworld Mafia - MAFIA win

[Krakalakachkn]

Also, I just want to thank Verb for not tying the vote at the end there.

[Cory Caboose]

Proud of all of you

 

Stuck together, a lot of you were a big part of this

 

One of them, nine of us. Let's work together and stop all the wolf sweeps with a sweep of our own.

 

Thread is not too big to reread. Wolves unlikely to bus hard in this set-up.

 

I think I'm likely to die tonight. I'll do what I can before night but y'all gotta avenge me if I do. Promise me.

[Krakalakachkn]

Proud of all of you

Stuck together, a lot of you were a big part of this

One of them, nine of us. Let's work together and stop all the wolf sweeps with a sweep of our own.

Thread is not too big to reread. Wolves unlikely to bus hard in this set-up.

I think I'm likely to die tonight. I'll do what I can before night but y'all gotta avenge me if I do. Promise me.

So Cory is wolf #2, huh?

[Cory Caboose]

Hehe

[Krakalakachkn]

I am so watching you tonight.

[Cory Caboose]

Get @ me Krakalakachkn :)

 

Some stuff that would be great to look at:

 

Some wagons bounced around before EOD: Yates in particular

 

Look for the people who shot down that wagon - Mish said something off the top of my head, I think someone else did as well

 

It is absurdly unlikely a wolf would shoot down a different wagon cropping up with their teammate at wagon #1 in this format

 

IE those people are LOCK CLEAR

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

Has Yates said anything about being absent today?

 

Not that I recall. 

 

 

Hmmmm

 

Vote Yates

 

 

 

I really dont think LN is mafia. I think they'd started to fight sooner and/or their scum buddy would've tried to pull attention somewhere else.

 

 

 

 

 

Has Yates said anything about being absent today?

 

Not that I recall. 

 

 

Hmmmm

 

Vote Yates

 

 

so with 3 hrs and 10 minutes to go you decide to start a NEW train just because Yates isnt here?  Seriously??

 

 

 

 

mish  thoughts on kraks vote?

 

Sorry, was on my phone and running out of battery (no wifi cause of thunderstorm) so was just redaing and typing quickly. I think a train on Yates is super stupid. He hasn't been an object of much discussion, hasn't given viewpoints on a whole lot of players, and the timing stinks. Why doesn't Krak have more votes again?

 

 

 

[unvote]

[v]YATESSSSSSssssssssssssss[/v]

 

 

I'm torn anyway and not convinced Yates is town.

Let's see if we can catch his attention.

 

[unvote]

[v]Yates[/v]

 

 

Whats up is that we now have a new train an1hr and a half or so before DL that is now equal leader and NOT ONE of the people voting it have a real reason! WTF!!!

 

 

I dislike. Scum scurry?

 

 

I'm not a fan of this sudden scramble to hit an inactive for the sole reason of a single day of inactivity. Definitely seems scummy to me. On that note, I'm off to bed.

 

 

 

I think we're losing focus.

 

Nah, I'm not about that Yates lynch today brah.

 

 

[v]LouNy[/v]

 

 

 

ive got yates as a strong town lean. kits based on his town interacting with me and his interactions when he was going back with you cory. I think it was you.

 

The stuff with me was easy lighthearted and felt natural. The other was him doing his arguing/poking at everything sorta thing

 

Dice is hilariously lock clear

 

I think Mish looks okay, need to rere, forgot that she was pushing Krak ~pretty hard

Think Krak was the ML attempt off the top of my head

[Cory Caboose]

I think that looks good for Barm as well

[Cory Caboose]

Oh yeah wanted to reiterate one thing as well:

 

 

 

[Krakalakachkn]

ML?

[Krakalakachkn]

 

Manlord?

Merry Lyncher?

Mislynch?

[Krakalakachkn]

I'll say I agree that Dice and Mish are pretty much locktown at this point, with Dice being the most town of all townies.

 

 

Barm is likely town as well

 

I remember feeling good about Yates before he disappeared.

 

Still not sure about Verb or Cory

 

Nolder and Hally below them

 

I think I remember liking Tina too.

[Cory Caboose]

mislynch

[Cory Caboose]

Krak you are not allowed to tinfoil on me period

 

I am the most obvious villager in the game brah

[Cory Caboose]

Thought I'd be fine with ~enough suspicion on me to maybe level the remaining wolf into not NKing me

 

That would be nice

 

In the words of ReddBoiler:

 

 

 

let me just say something

wolves are the biggest [redacted, rhymes with "wussies"] ever on this site

always strong player killing coryGOATen every game night 1

ffs have some pride and leave him alive once in your life you slimey soabs

[Cory Caboose]

unless you're scared to give me another day

 

u scared?

[Krakalakachkn]

How are you the most obvious villager ITG?

[Cory Caboose]

Okay, so I have a goal.

 

There will be nine players alive when day starts. We will still have ALL our mislynches available thanks to a Day 1 scum lynch so, essentially

 

If we can POE the last wolf down to four people out of nine we always win

 

so if you are a villager, you need to find FOUR villagers next day phase. You find that and you will win the game 100% of the time

 

I am going to leave WHAT I CAN and get through the thread before day breaks. Through page 10 now with Leelous' flip in mind. Will spoil.

 

 

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

 

I forget, is this scum behavior or not? 

 

 

A part of the Barm townspew that goes on for awhile

 

@Verbal - not sure yet. Interact with me some more and I'll let you know. 

 

 

Not the answer I was looking for.

 

Really NOT SURE what to make of this interaction with Verbal.

Verbal/Leelou AFAICT have some weird meta where they are either too buddy/buddy or ignore eachother and when this interaction happened I marked it down as NOT WOLF VERBAL talking to VILLAGER LEELOU; ie Wolf Verbal wouldn't snipe Villager Leelou like this. I had W-W, V-V and W-V Verbal available.

 

Don't know if this makes Verbal > rand a wolf often, will ponder

 

No, I don´t. But you said that it wasn´t an answer that you had hoped for. I took it as you meant something negative.

 

Tina questioning this interaction I think is a plus

 

 

Tina, you said Cory is the scummiest so far, but what do you think of Nolder's post/vote? 

 

I will take a look at his posts. 

 

 

Tina being talked to like a villager

 

Ok so of the votes we have:

 

Krak - Voted as a joke vote by Verb, then by Leelou, I guess also as a joke vote?

Nolder - Voted by Krak and Yates for his verbal vote

Verbal - Voted by Nolder because ???

Cory - Voted by Tina for not answering Misheru's question (but not by Misheru who kept pushing him to answer)

Leelou - Voted by cory because... he's waxing poetic? I dunno.

 

Of above, I think Leelou's fast bandwagon onto Krak could be an early attempt to try and get a train going before there is any real information available, since at that point basically all posts were spam posts.

 

[v]Leelou/Nyn[/v]

 

Good for Barm for a ~random post about ~random wagonomics

 

Nyn - are you reading anyone as town?


Hallia - same question.

 

At this point I had already seen enough to vote LouNy and I think I gave Krak a huge amount of points cause I thought he thought LouNy was wolfy and was trying to draw spew

 

Nyn responds:

 

 

Nyn - are you reading anyone as town?

 

I'm not proficient enough to have reads of people after 15-20 posts. I do better after players accumulate enough posts that I can ISO and analyze. Right now all I can do is pick out what sort of sticks out to me. Which I pointed out in my previous post

 

Overall, Hallia and Nolder basically need to post more. I don't recall playing with Barm ever (or if I did, I don't remember) so I don't really have any experience in reading him. Mish and Kronos kinda give me a good vibe. Tina is being inquisitve which is a good sign. You're being more active than usual which is refreshing. And Cory is being unusually quiet. But he hasn't played in a while so maybe he's trying a new shtick.

 

dice saying the forbidden number was funny, but hardly indicative of much.

 

 

The rest I don't feel much about one way or the other. Need to see more.

 

 

Will need to think about this

 

Nolder may not be clear.

 

im thinking its not verb.

 

his responses to nolder have seemed ok to me and while he could be tricking me    and i will watch  him  i dont think its him.

 

 

leelou/nyn i think purely because of the vote leelou threw up.  i dont have any other content to base off but i did not like that vote. 

 

barm hasnt said anything of consequence that i remember.

 

yates started out by playing around with me and basically saying he wont be able to do any gambits this game. his tone was one i liked.

 

dice just hilariously clear in general but here's more

 

I also liked Barm's post 142. Seemed kind of game solvey.

I do NOT like removing Krak or Cory from the potential scum pool, yet.

Krak has a solid scum game so it's way too early to have him above a null -> Town track. The two things to his benefit are 1. the only game I recall him being this active in early on he was Town and 2. I liked his response to my inquiry and follow through questioning of Leelou in post 143.

Cory you fooled me once as scum. I don't like being fooled. I also don't like the "omg I'm lock clear Town guys" shtick starting with his first post. Meh - looking back to support this argument this was the only post that bothered me, really. Though I suppose the early attempted claim on the "Town Leader" mantle might also have me suspicious. IIRC, you were all "LOCK CLEAR" with Tommy in that game - until the game ended and you were scum.

Actually, now that I look at it, why are Tina and Wolfish off the table, iyo?

Tina's vote in post 106 came across as forced to me. And her questions are framed in such a way as to cast dispersion without actually coming out and saying "this is scummy because of x."

And Wolfish has 4 posts - 0 of which give me a strong Town vibe. And I just now realized he's the other half of Mish. Mish looks - okay, omgus vote aside.

 

I think this post looks really bad for Yates in retrospect and I didn't even like it much at the time

 

Wasn't too fond of his responses either but dice thinks his tone was villagery so I'm willing to just keep him in my ~nulls ATM

 

 

 

 

Hot takes:

 

Likely villagers

 

Dice

Barm

TIna

 

dice's GOAT ability to just soulread wolves gave me more confidence to pursue my tells on Nyn

 

big hand for diceGOAT

[Cory Caboose]

How are you the most obvious villager ITG?

 

Here's some easy things:

 

1) consistently pushed LouNy throughout the phase and made sure attention never died down on her. Was the first vote on her and sealed the wagon before EOD.

2) me being the last wolf in this game would be a ~death sentence for me. Remember that the wolf can only win if he gets to Day 5. If I'm alive during Day 5 I will allow people to tinfoil on me.

3) i'm just not a bussy wolf period. I would not let my partner get lynched like that in a 11 player, 2 wolves

4) i'm probably heavily townspewed by Nyn from our talks near EOD

5) tone, breadth of content, etc. etc. 

[Cory Caboose]

Leveling the wolves into letting me live remains great though

I'll take the challenge of leaving myself in my nulls and finding five villagers other than me if everyone wants 

[Krakalakachkn]

I'd say points two and three are the only ones I buy, but please continue.

[Yates]

I apologize to you guys for my unexplained absence. I had a work trip thrown at me the second I walked in the door this morning and I *just* got back. There are way too many pages here for me to read before bed so I'll get started in the AM.

[Cory Caboose]

I'd say points two and three are the only ones I buy, but please continue.

 

You serious?

 

Like I can't imagine you're actually serious

[Cory Caboose]

DMers gonna DM

 

I'll keep walking along and singing my song

[Cory Caboose]

Stopping here for tonight becuase slightly delirious and needs sleep

 

through 13

 

 

I'm reading Verb as town at the moment, same with Yates and Cory. Still not liking Krak. Tina I went back and looked after the discussion on this page, might be something there, but not enough that I'm confident going after it at this point. Also gotta keep a closer eye on LouNy, since I can hardly remember the content fromt heir posts, and checking the posts counts, they have the most posts of the gsme together.

 

like this a great deal

 

I have time for one quick post just to respond to 2 things. Reads and such coming after I finish a big chunk of work. Like Nyn mentioned, it's Sukot. I work for a Jewish Federation, so I'm off the next two days. But that means my day today is the suck with meetings and a huge proposal I have to get out by 3. 

Ok so of the votes we have:

 

Krak - Voted as a joke vote by Verb, then by Leelou, I guess also as a joke vote?

Nolder - Voted by Krak and Yates for his verbal vote

Verbal - Voted by Nolder because ???

Cory - Voted by Tina for not answering Misheru's question (but not by Misheru who kept pushing him to answer)

Leelou - Voted by cory because... he's waxing poetic? I dunno.

 

Of above, I think Leelou's fast bandwagon onto Krak could be an early attempt to try and get a train going before there is any real information available, since at that point basically all posts were spam posts.

 

[v]Leelou/Nyn[/v]

It was yes. I'll get more in depth with my reads later, but I'm not liking the way Krak is coming off right now. 

 

 

 

Evenin'

So...? I showed you mine... What do YOU think of that post?

I don't like the angle they're taking, defending Verb and prodding people about Nolder, but sitting with a vote on Verb.




Leelou, do you actually find Nolder's play to be wolfy?

 

 

Yes. His post and vote made no sense, even his explanation is pretty weak. 

 

need to think heavily about krak/nolder

 

more barm townspew afaict

 

 

Mish/Kronos

Barm

Dice

Yates

Everybody else

 

one thing that tinfoils my mind

 

almost ALL of the people above pushed LouNy besides Yates, who I think just sort of had a mini-abrasive reaction that I could see a ~wolf seeing villagery

 

I liked this list at the time but Verb is a strong player so I'm just worried in general with his interactions with Leelou

 

this is a tinfoil and i acknowledge it as thus

He's probably not a soon lynch target

 

But him giving light villager leans to Leelou pushers and being mostly ~weird discussing Leelou seems weird to me

 

I´m impressed that people can go through old games for meta reads. I had to re-read this game just to remember what happened yesterday. lol

 

[unvote]

 

 

I like Dice and Mish/Kronos. Cory is starting to get more townie. 

 

I liked Barm´s post #142. Would like to see more from him. 

 

I haven´t seen much from Nyn/Leelou so far. As Mish said, it´s weird since they have a lot of posts.

 

 

It´s a strange Krak - Nolder - Verb triangle. Nolder didn´t like Verbs answer on Krak´s joke vote and then Verb joke voted Krak but kept his vote since he didn´t like how Krak followed up. I have two posts by Nolder that I will try to find because they looked weird. 

 

Verbal - what do you think about Nyn/Leelou? 

 

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