[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[hazelkrs1]

Hehe ninjad

 

Pretty MEHHHHHHH @ that SP vote Pray. Altho I still think you might be town, just REALLY thought Dice was scum so wanna think it's a gambit so you can be right

 

SP going "You shouldn't track Dice Des" right before PC tends to support his mason claim, since why would scum attach themselves BEFORE the mason claim unless they planned on attaching themselves much earlier than that?

 

As for your analysis of SP's reads list, he could have been distancing from mason partner. Not saying I would do that, but I know a lot of masons that think that's smart, and I could see SP thinking that

[Pralaya]

In a read list? Where you will be listing 3-4 town at least? Don't see a point there.

 

Also, don't think why anyone would be wanting to distance that hard on D1 and end up claiming with hardly any pressure on D3.

[Pralaya]

1. Halligeddon [Hallia / csarmi] - claimed vanilla
2. Yates
3. TomStress [Tommyrod / Songstress]
4. Arsis - kind of cleared by cop
5. SickPuppets - claimed mason
6. Krakalakachkn
7. manbat
8. Darthe - claimed Doc
9. Torrey_Smith's_Brother TGlems
10. Pralaya - claimed PR
11. dicetosser1 - claimed mason
12. Despothera - claimed Tracker

Color doesn't mean anything. So, if we consider all the claims as true, we end up with yates, tommy, krak, manbat and TG.  Out of these, I don;t think Tommy or krak is scum. Krak, mainly because of the way D2 lynch went through. And, Tommy, I don't read him as scum here - not aggressive enough from what I have seen. 

 

Frankly, I think one of the claimants is lying. Or Arsis could bf GF but i don't want to go there yet. Especially after I found a disconnect in SP's day 1 reads and his claim. That is the best option from where I am looking. 

[csarmi]

Pray, if you are a PR (but not telling which one), either the masons or the doc doesn't exist.

[csarmi]

I would treat my mason partner the very same way as I'd treat others until it's time to claim. So yea that's null.

[Tommyrod]

Pretty sure there are like 5 scum in this game based on the way you guys are behaving.

 

Can we calm down and be rational? It's not SUPER difficult to discern people's motives through a combination of thread presence, tone, and what they actually said.

 

What is this about anyone bein spewed? There can't be spew yet since no scum has died yet. Manbat has decided to take the "GFY" approach to the town, which is something I have never seen him do as a townie.

 

Darthe's claim needs to be analyzed. We go back and check his posting and see if his play is congruent with that claim or if he's said anything that takes him out of doc contention.

 

Kinda like what Pral did with the masons except Pral's conclusion was terrible. I've distanced from my mason in the past. Mason is a very risk scum claim and we definitely do not START by lynching there. How can you even think to do so?

 

So where we have MASSIVE LOGIC FAIL like "Monstr is spewed" or trying to lynch Arsis when he's likely cop viewed or trying to lynch claimed masons over a post that says null, I'm gonna be suspicious. I'm not just gonna let you guys be retarded.

[Tommyrod]

The timing of SP's mason claim makes it super unlikely to come from scum. Super. Unlikely. If you're scum and are gonna claim mason you do it at Must Lynch, not as soon as D3 starts. SP's timing for the claim was appropriate, and I believe SP to be town anyway based on behaviors and meta.

[Tommyrod]

Des:

You said "Bolded def make it seem extremely plausible that Slender viewed Arsis. Slender isn't just saying he maybe thinks Arsis is town, he's throwing out conjecture on the assumption that Arsis IS town and is encouraging others to do the same"

I was too sleepy to explain that to everyone like you're five years old but yes Slender was making connections based on the idea Arsis is town and that's a classic cop move. Further supports the peek.

If people want to make a case that Arsis is scum, we do so AFTER we have 1-2 scum flips and then look at the wagon that developed on Arsis D1.

[csarmi]

Despo you can call me a jerk all you want but I've never seen anyone play tracker as bad as you did in HHGG and now you seem to be trying to top that. Get your head together and get a grasp on the role.

[Tommyrod]

Going back to basics:
 

1. Halligeddon [Hallia / csarmi]

2. Yates

5. Arsis

6. SickPuppets

7. Krakalakachkn

8. manbat

10. Darthe

11. Torrey_Smith's_Brother TGlems

13. Pralaya

15. dicetosser1

17. Despothera

Blue: people I'm considering clear for a combination of threadplay, claims, and mechanics.

Purple: people who I mostly consider clear but could see lying if anyone in the claims group is lying. I want Darthe to be clear but he has to go back to making sense and not go completely batshit crazy. It's like he forgot to take his meds in the past 36 hours and it's not helping.

So that leaves 5. Kinda agree with Des that Pral doesn't seem like the most likely scum of the group.

I thought Krak was clear based on D2 wagonments but scum may simply not have been around; from his actual posting I got an overall town vibe, we need him to actually post.

So for today's lunch menu we have Yates, Manbat, or TG with a side of Krak/Pral. I like Yates/Manbat wagons.

[unvote]

 

[v]Yates[/v]

I'd like a VC if possible. I'm voting Yates because I think Manbat has the most votes on him already.

[csarmi]

Hint: tracker is not a gimped version of cop that can only catch kills directly.

[Tommyrod]

Salami please drop it. I don't wanna hear it.

[csarmi]

Yea I'm in a jerk mood today. Having a horrible day. I'll come back when I feel human and have something constructive to add.

Sorry y'all.

[Yates]

My brain hurts. I have no idea how people are coming to the conclusions they are based on the information they provide.

 

Okay just read Pray's case on Yates and found it not bad...

REALLY? Are you KIDDING me right now? PRAL doesn't even believe it. He's voting one of the claimed Masons instead! Why is he voting a claimed Mason? Because a Mason wouldn't distance, according to him.

[v]SickPuppets[/v]

More on this in a minute but JC.

[Yates]

Full Claim:

 

Watermelon Yogurt - Vanilla Town. There's no butter flavor but that doesn't stop me from being vanilla for the purposes of the game because I'm yogurt and yogurt lacks pizzaz. BUT I'm healthy and low calorie and that's worth something - just like my vote.

 

It also mentions in my pm that I'm seasonal. I had never heard of watermelon yogurt before so I looked it up. I decided to use that "seasonal" line in my role hints [remember how I highlighted "LIMITED release"] because I was trying to hint at being a limited shot something as subtly as possible. I think that's why Arsis thought I was soft claiming cop.

[Yates]

lol - "butter flavor" should be "BETTER flavor"

[Tommyrod]

If we are gonna mass claim then I am

 

Panera Bread - VT

 

Lunch eats that won't balloon Cory with grease and trans fats. He likes their mango smoothies.

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Official Vote Count:
 
manbat (2) - Arsis, Yates
Krakalakachkn (2) - manbat, dice

Pral  (2) - darthe, Halligeddon

Yates (2) - Despo, Tomstress
SickPuppets (1) - Pral

 

Not Voting (3) - SickPuppets, Krak, TG

 

 

With 12 alive, it's 7 for majority.

 

Deadline: Friday, September 26, 9pm EST

 

[Tommyrod]

I'm sure we have fake character claims so I suggest sticking to threadplay rather than character.

[Yates]

As for the Pral case that you claim is "not bad," Des, go back and look at it again. This time read it as if you know I've already flipped VT. Also, pay particular attention not just to what's there but also to what ISN'T there. Namely, ANYTHING from Day 2. He ignores ALL of my play from later in the game - the play you are now claiming is what made me shadier - and treats me as though I hadn't already addressed many of his concerns later in the day PLUS his biggest point was that I was soft pushing a Pral lynch while you were accusing me of soft DEFENDING a Pral lynch [which is closer to the truth]. In short - it's either a tunnel or a fabrication.

[Yates]

Basically, Des, I think you should take another look at that post as well as your earlier tunnel on me with a VT role in mind. Check back in your QT's or wherever you keep your notes and see if my play in here matches up with the notes you took.

[Tommyrod]

Yates what was up with leaving your vote on me for 48 hours? I'm sure you saw where I pointed out how your "case" on me was forced.

[csarmi]

Hally feel free to tell them our real role if you wish. I got no grasp on this now and won't be posting today.

[Yates]

I voted, never got any of the responses I was looking for, and never unvoted before going AFK. Regardless, I *still* have no reason to think you are Town so why would I have moved it anyway? Added bonus of potential Black Panther gambit.

[Tommyrod]

You have NO reason to think I am town??