[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Xthrax]

I strongly suggest that I be the one to hammer and anyone who tries to hammer instead of me should be lynched.

Why do you want to be the one to hammer?

 

 

 

 

 

It's not as dire as you're making it out to be, no. When is deadline?

Tomorrow

So what's the problem?

 

FACT: Darthe posted a role PM

 

FACT: I can save him from being lynched and get his role PM if I hammer his lynch. That means even if he had a fake role PM I'll get the real one and out him.

 

THAT MEANS if anyone hammers Darthe before I do, like when I'm asleep, THEY ARE BRAZENLY CLAIMING SCUM.

 

Scum can't afford to do that, so it won't happen.

 

Deadline is 8PM tomorrow.

 

I don't see the problem.

 

Ok I see where you're coming from here and I agree except for one snag and it's one I keep asking about.

 

How are we supposed to trust you? You say you can confirm yourself and I'm trying to figure out if you mean without your partner claiming.

I mean yeah ok we can all sit around and say this is a mega retarded gambit for scum to be going on D1 but sometimes people just go for the gusto, it's possible.

So when you come back tomorrow and say Darthe is clean and telling the truth how do we trust that YOU are telling US the truth?

 

See, generally scum will want to take the backseat. Town regularly manages to destroy itself-I've played games where it happens.

 

Now if scum want to play a huge gambit, they might. But they'll be cautious about it. They'll put out feelers testing how something would go.

 

I don't believe scum would act like how Tommy acted. True, they might want to bail someone out of a lynch. But if one of their members are in trouble, they would bail him out early. Not leave it till the last minute. I think Darthe had around 10 votes on him-so he would be at L-3. And if a lynch goes so far, I don't think he is scum because no one wants to get him out of that. And scum definitely don't want to lose someone Day 1. I've been twice exactly as scum. One in Kronos's game and once in Darthe's game. In the first we lost Des Day 1. And it was hard as hell to survive. So when someone offers to figure out an alignment-they are town.

 

 

"How are we supposed to trust you? You say you can confirm yourself and I'm trying to figure out if you mean without your partner claiming.

I mean yeah ok we can all sit around and say this is a mega retarded gambit for scum to be going on D1 but sometimes people just go for the gusto, it's possible.

So when you come back tomorrow and say Darthe is clean and telling the truth how do we trust that YOU are telling US the truth?"

 

You know it because

 

A) I will eventually die

B) if absolutely absolutely necessary my partner could claim

C) it already appears that Darthe is town anyway

 

In what world does scum out themselves to save a bro with a ticking time bomb claim like that? Only if I was a vanilla wolf and Darthe was like the wolf vig. I'm sure I could come up with a better lie.

 

We would also be confirming at SOMETHING caused Darthe to not get lynched, even if you didn't necessarily have to believe it was my hammer power. That lends credence to my claim.

A. So we're supposed to trust you until you die? If you're lying that could be never.

B. Ok so this is the backup plan

C. To you maybe.

 

Asking the question "why would someone do something so outrageous?" is kind of pointless because as I noted people DO outrageous things while playing mafia. It's always possible.

 

"I don't understand trying to clear someone as town and stop a mislynch on day 1. Could someone explain it to me. My name is Nolderp.

You're being sarcastic but yeah actually. It's kind of a waste on D1 imo. That's water under the bridge though.

 

Bold-I thought you were all against people claiming. What happened? Why do you want his partner to claim? By your own logic-if they do, that'll be one more target for scum. This  is scummy.

 

Italics-This is complete nonsense. Why don't you want to clear someone as town. As town-you're primary interests to be to stop town being lynched and to get scum lynched. Why don't you want to stop a town to be mislyched. And don't give that nonsense about  statistics being in favor of town lynched on D1.  

 

 

 

 

Oh thanks for that enlightening info.  I'm sure if that was the case, I would make sure to pass on my crucial information to the scum to kill cleared townies.  /sarcasm

 

This is SO outside of your normal play...

I agree, it reads like Rand, Wombat and Nolder have been in damage control mode tonight.

 

Scum doesn't need a damage control mode, they need a continue damage to the town mode as they prod on more and more people to reveal as subtly as they can.

 

Scum need both. They want the later but also the former. The former because when a town goes all wild clearing other townies-they want it to go back to an info-less situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nolder when people make semi-verifiable and intimately tying claims like I am by offering to cop hammer Darthe you don't immediately go "wow maybe he's pulling the long con!" you go "okay, this will get resolved by night actions somehow or we will get really suspicious in 3-5 days."

 

This is BASIC.

Can you at least address my point on how your role would be a thousand times more useful in a CC or Lylo/Mylo situation?

It probably would be, but I very very very rarely make it far that as town. This is a large game. Odds of me making it to must lynch are 0.1%.

See your point, but you can also wait for a CC situation. But more importantly, now that Darthe has almost cleared himself with the claim of a character who has been in multiple Mynd scenes, is it worth missing the first lynch in which we get tons of information to clear someone who most people think is now town?

Just answer me one question and remember there are consequences to lying to a god. Are you scum? Yes or no answer please.

 

No, I am not scum, nor any third party role that might be construed as scum.  I am a Hero, and aligned with Town.  LD me or whatever you want.

 

Why do you claim like that? I don't like this

[Tommyrod]

Tommy - its great that/if townies are cleared. Not saying the game is going in the wrong direction - just voicing my frustration of not being able to keep up

Making fun of you.

[Lenlo]

 

[unvote][v]Darthe[/v]

 

I wanna hit two birds with one stone today and test both their claims. The only thing im worried about it that Tommys role doesnt have to be town. It would be useful to scum as well to find out powers, third parties, symps whatever happens to be in the game without fear of losing them to a lynch. For today though im alright with testing it.

Yeah because scum would want to let a townie live to learn their roleset instead of just letting them die and learning it anyway??

 

I meant it would be useable to find a number of things without losing the role itself. It could also be used if say cult, to find the best abilities to recruit as soon as possible. Not saying you are, but making sure its known is a possibility. Seeing as this is a rolemadness game I figured that would be good.

 

Oh I see what you said about symps now. Get owned. It's not a scum ability.

Alright guys, its not a scum ability cause tommy said so! That just leaves town and third party. Feeling really good about him now. 

[nervositee]

:(

 

Is it good poking-fun-of or are you pulling my ponytails and calling me names?

[Tommyrod]

:(

 

Is it good poking-fun-of or are you pulling my ponytails and calling me names?

Find out when I vig you tonight.

[nervositee]

Dang!

 

Hold on, weren't you bodyguard?

[Tommyrod]

Dang!

 

Hold on, weren't you bodyguard?

That's Derrrfffff

[Nolder]

Bold-I thought you were all against people claiming. What happened? Why do you want his partner to claim? By your own logic-if they do, that'll be one more target for scum. This  is scummy.

Read that again.

Word by word.

And then tell me where the hell I said I wanted his partner to claim.

 

Italics-This is complete nonsense. Why don't you want to clear someone as town. As town-you're primary interests to be to stop town being lynched and to get scum lynched. Why don't you want to stop a town to be mislyched. And don't give that nonsense about  statistics being in favor of town lynched on D1.

I'm done arguing about it pretty much.

I will say that you're an idiot if you just want to assume Darthe is town after that self voting.

That's pretty much the most overtly scummy thing you can do in mafia.

And if he is town he's an idiot right along with you.

[Myndrunner]

Sparks lit up the smokey ruins that was once Lanthirrhos Ordanence Base as a mighty vibranium shield smashed through the faceplate of another Ultron clone.  It's fried circuits crackled as it rag dolled to the ground.  Steve Rogers steadied his shield just in time to deflect another photon blast from an approaching bot.  He did not deflect the second blast from another, which knocked him to the ground. 

 

"EXTERMINATE" shouted the bots in unison.  "EXTERMINATE! EXTERMIN_--afrauvnvubnsjnb"  An arrow burst through the crimson eye socket of the closest bot.  Then another arrow landed squarely in the chest plate of another, and burst into tiny explosives taking out three more.  Rogers lept to his feet, kicking one to the ground, smashing another with his shield. 

 

Natasha Romanov flipped over a bot and stabbed it in the neck with an ion knife.  She then wrapped her legs around the head of another, and delivered a devostating hurricarana, smashing its's head to the ground.  Cap threw his shield just above her head, knocking two bots off balance, causing them to shoot each other.   Catching his shield on the return glide, Rogers shouted "There's too many of them, we need to regroup!"

 

"Regroup to where?" replied Clint Barton, sliding on his knees as he fired another arrow into the chrome skull of another bot, "we're not getting outta here while their still movin."

 

Suddenly, a black suv burst through the gate and slammed into four of the bots.  The door swung open and a dark skinned man in rags and tinted sunglasses shouted "Get in, Cap!  Tasha! Barton!"  There was no mistaking Fury's commanding voice, especially when he was angry.  Barton fired an explosive arrow into the ground before diving into the SUV, taking out another handful of bots.  Making sure the three heroes were safe inside, Nick Fury punched the gas pedal to the floor.  "I've had it with these muthaf*ckin Ultrons in this muthaf*ckin BASE!"

 

 

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Official Vote Count:

Darthe (8) - NotBob, Nolder, Dawn, Songstress, TGlems, Hallia, Blackhoof, Lenlo

Red (3) - Xthrax, Andrej, Despothera

Nolder (2) - Darthe, Tommy

Dicetosser (1) - Keyholder

Tommy (1) - TinaHel

Arsis (1) - Tsukibana

Rand (1) - WWWwombat

Dawn (1) - Red

 

Not Voting: everyone else

 

It is still Day 1 of Avengers 2 - Age of Ultron Mafia, which will end Thursday, August 7th at 20:00pm EST or when a majority lynch has been achieved.  This is a hammer game so the moment a majority lynch has been reached, the day will end and I will post the results as soon as I am available to do so.  No additional votes or unvotes will be counted after the majority has been reached. 

 

To vote, you must vote in the usual manner "[v ] VOTE [/v ]" and you must [unvote] before voting again. 

 

With 24 players in the game, it will take 13 votes to reach a majority.  Failure to reach a majority by the deadline will result in a random player being lynched. 

[Xthrax]

allright im going to unvote cause i cant argue with that power claim. First i am gonna try and explain my thinking which apparently was not clear enuff.

 

say my next game is Star Wars. I come out early and claim Palpatine. I say it a few times. Then i say nah im kidding im actually Dooku. Oh and i have a cop view on such and such during day.  Oh and now im a mason too!!

 

Do I get lynched? i bet i do.

 

If you answer no you are an idiot cause u are giving scum the ability to outright claim their role and get away with it.

 

tommy did all that and up til all this hammer time stuff we had no way of knowing he was telling the truth. the character he settled on is one id expect to be 3rd party at best. you cant tell at this point  even if someone said they were his mason buddy that they are not scum pulling a gambit.  You would tend to believe it once that second claim comes but you dont KNOW it.  Hence my push.

 

now this hammer stuff  tommys claimed hammer ability would be AWESOME for scum to have    too awesome i think.  i cant see that going to scum by any mod. even troll ones. It is also at least partially verifiable immediately. so now i have to believe him.

 

unvote

 

 

and i just got ninjad by like 38 posts lmao

This is what I don't like. People saying-half of this and half of that. You say that you don't believe him but then it's vettable so you have to. Pick one. I don't like it when people say two opposite things at once.  

 

I stopped multi quoting after a while once we got into the crazy claim fest. I do think that there is some pretty alignment indicative info to be gleaned from that though, even though I somewhat agree with Rand that it probably wasn't the best idea.

 

At least now we've got a pretty clear way of going about things.

 

So - that essentially clears Tommy, Darthe, Arsis and Tsuki. I also think Rand looks very good for his exchanges in the matter.

 

That adds a lot to my pool of players that I feel relatively good about moving forward, which is nice considering that (hopefully) we can make an informed decision as to who to lynch tomorrow before DL with the revealed powers.

 

Tommy

Darthe

Arsis

Tsuki

 

Rand

Krak

Des

Hally

NB

Wombat

Nolder

Key

X

 

Blue are as good as off the table for now unless some wild shit goes down, which I doubt. I feel comfortable keeping them there and putting my attention elsewhere. Green are people I feel relatively good about due to contributions/interactions as I read through the game in my state of perpetual catch up.

 

My null list is pretty huge but currently the short list is looking somewhat in no particular order like:

 

Dawn

Red

Vos

TG

I see one post saying that something about Vos is off in your catchup post. So with that one, he's in your red pile? 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Arsis

 

Seemed quickest to jump on my bandwagon with the least amount of reasoning imo

Lmao, after saying you couldn't gain any knowledge without voting? You're a walking contradiction. Your early vote means you were lying before, no? Lynch all liars.

 

 

Clown.

 

 

Awful, just awful.  FOS for the lack of vote.

 

How do you Fos someone for that? He was pointing out Nolder's contradiction in his words. I don't get how you find that awful.  

 

Should be pretty obvious. He's calling me a liar and citing Lynch All Liars policy and then he didn't vote me.

I already called him out for this, pay attention.

 

Ok. I didn't see your  post, my bad.

 

 

Bold-I thought you were all against people claiming. What happened? Why do you want his partner to claim? By your own logic-if they do, that'll be one more target for scum. This  is scummy.

Read that again.

Word by word.

And then tell me where the hell I said I wanted his partner to claim.

 

Italics-This is complete nonsense. Why don't you want to clear someone as town. As town-you're primary interests to be to stop town being lynched and to get scum lynched. Why don't you want to stop a town to be mislyched. And don't give that nonsense about  statistics being in favor of town lynched on D1.

I'm done arguing about it pretty much.

I will say that you're an idiot if you just want to assume Darthe is town after that self voting.

That's pretty much the most overtly scummy thing you can do in mafia.

And if he is town he's an idiot right along with you.

 

Bold-You said that-his partner claiming and thus vetting him is a back-up plan. Why would his partner claiming be a plan for you if you didn't want people to claim. 

 

This is completely not about Darthe. I believe Darthe to be town because his frustration seemed to be genuine. This is about Arsis saying that by using Tommy's power we can stop a mislynch and save a townie. According to you, that was a waste of time on D1. 

 

Call me an idiot. I don't care. The fact remains that you said what you did and I find that scummy.

[Tyler Glembo]

Tommy Darthe Tsuki Arsis are having a giant circle jerk that I don't want to be a part of.  None of them are conf town yet they all act like it.  Bleurgh. 

 

Tsuki and Tommy, why don't you two use your godly hammer power/OMGUS power through D4.  We lynch both of you then and find out if all your results are true. 

 

Tina should be todays lynch.

 

Tsuki, come at me bro.  I'm going to be voting you shortly.  Maybe after your next post.

[Tyler Glembo]

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN.  The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually  speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me.  Tommy, play better.

[Tyler Glembo]

Or bitter.  Pick one.

[Tommyrod]

Vigging you tonight TG.

[Tyler Glembo]

If we're going to activate Tommy's power today and not lynch Darthe, let's move on with it.  We can lynch tommy later after he uses his power on multiple lynches to clear everyone he has results on.

[Xthrax]

Deadline is at 5:30 am for me. If somebody could confirm what has to be done, I will. Otherwise I will vote my other scum reads.  I'd like to lynch Red. I'm open to vote Dice and Nolder mainly. Dice for his posts so far. Nolder for what happened during the claims and how his actions seems scummy to me. Then I have Wombat but in a lesser degree for the same and then Tina for my initial read on her.  

[nervositee]

Is it just me or are X defending me?

 

I'm town but I haven't been on top of my game at all yet. Fine I've been misrepped alot but With what ive put into this game I'm very suspicious of people sticking up for me at this point.

[Tyler Glembo]

Vigging you tonight TG.

 

Good.  Come at me.

[Tommyrod]

Love your logic.

 

"They're not confirmed town!"

 

"Let's lynch someone else so they can't confirm it!"

 

Wow.

[Tyler Glembo]

Vigging you tonight TG.

 

In fact, I'm dead F#$@ing serious.  Vig me tonight and see what happens. 

[Tyler Glembo]

Love your logic.

 

"They're not confirmed town!"

 

"Let's lynch someone else so they can't confirm it!"

 

Wow.

 

Are you purposely obtuse?

[Tyler Glembo]

You're not conf town.  Let's test you over the next few lynches by NOT lynching you now, gain a ish ton of info, and then lynch you.  Pretty clear.

[Lenlo]

 

Vigging you tonight TG.

 

In fact, I'm dead F#$@ing serious.  Vig me tonight and see what happens. 

 

Hey! Stop stealing my bullets!

[Xthrax]

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN.  The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually  speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me.  Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it. 

[Tommyrod]

You're not conf town. Let's test you over the next few lynches by NOT lynching you now, gain a ish ton of info, and then lynch you. Pretty clear.

We are never lynching me. This is legit scummy of you to say.