[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Tsukibana]

THAT is rubbing salt in the wound, isn't it?

[Arsis]

THAT is rubbing salt in the wound, isn't it?

That's the point.

[Darthe]

Hello again.  Don't have time to really analyze the situation but ftp, you realize that this isn't a wound for me don't you Arsis?  

 

Nobody argued effectively against my points thus they could well have been true.  Without good counter-reasoning (or even a town/mafia that cared enough to bother trying to play) I had zero reason to change my line of reasoning.

 

Tommy flipping town fairly screams that he played this game less effectively than normal.  His galactus claim didn't best fit in with the theme but it remains incredibly foolish and anti-town to do.  Combined with his late game apathy and the fact that he would rather jest about me being dumb for having ideas than provide reasoning that they might not be accurate I see little to no reasoning that I should have treated him as town.  Also he flip flopped on his own viewings and fake claimed several things such as the masonic claim, ironically to someone else who also doesn't believe their own viewings.

 

Finally, I have yet to break a single rule in the game.  I asked the moderator if I could post the QT.  He said yes.  I did it.  That is as simply as I can state that.  I don't think town was punished at all for my actions here and Mynd has said as much.  Unfortunately Tommy (reasonably I might add) posted his as well since he thought we could and his did say that he couldn't do that in the QT.  I think in light of a town flip on Tommy that Mynd taking action here fairly confirms that a townie was converted to mafia in this instance.  

 

I could talk on my opinion of Mynd's particular choice of punishment but since I don't know the full setup or game at the moment that would be a biased impression so I'll save it for post game.

 

Also, in hindsight it seems that the choice of punishment pointed to us not having three scum as I proposed.  I don't know what that means for Hallias alignment since this, as Kaylee said, isn't a bastard game and a death framer is a 100% bastard role but either Hallias flip was messed with or we have harshly uneven teams.  Given that we now know that we don't have two evenly sized teams that provides weight to the idea that Hally had her flip messed with.  

 

One deduction we can make about this is that Arsis genuinely came to that on his own yesterday.  It wasn't a case of TMI since Notbob would have seen him as anti-town if he KNEW (barring GF, unlikely) and Notbob and him couldn't have been colluding since if they were the recruit last night would have pushed them to parity with the town before day.  So, odd and unlikely as his logic was kudos there.

 

I also think this is a good time to finalize claims with a mass claim.  We have role PM's from everyone save Notbob/Arsis and I can't recall if Key did for sure but I think she did.  

 

With two scum alive tomorrow is LYLO/MYLO depending on tonights' actions.  That is all of the technical info I can think of off the top of my head but I will be around more at a later time and to discuss.  For the point of it, lynching me would not be throwing the game but it would make every day win or lose.  

[Arsis]

I posted my pm. I'm just on mobile so it wasn't all fancy and shit.

[Tsukibana]

I guarantee (99%) that there are 2 scum plus Me out there, right now. All they have to do is claim, and we (scum) can win... But because I don't have access to the QT, you need to let me know, scum-bros.

[Arsis]

I guarantee (99%) that there are 2 scum plus Me out there, right now. All they have to do is claim, and we (scum) can win... But because I don't have access to the QT, you need to let me know, scum-bros.

If I lie and say I'm scum. Well you vote for Darthe?

[Darthe]

Gonna lol so hard post-game if it was somehow Notbob/Arsis in the end and I was wrong yesterday but made right by Mynd changing the alignment of one of them and then I moved away from it.  That would be god tier trolling.

[Lenlo]

You know what everyone should do to initiate fun times in this game? Vote me. Cause at that point this game stops being in our hands and goes into that of the dice and THAT sounds like a perfect ending to this game.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

My vote is on scum.  Recommend the rest of you ignore the babble and jump on.  

 

My vote will not change.

[Darthe]

Ironically Tsuki was probably the final anti-town that we needed to lynch.

[Darthe]

Hell with it.  [v] tsuki [/v] If there are two more scum we will see where this goes.  Anyways they would already have won if that were the case.

[Tsukibana]

Not if scum is too chicken-shit to come in here and win the game...

[Tsukibana]

And, no, they CAN'T auto win, because I don't know who they are, which means we (scum and I) can't stop the vote... In 12 hours, I am simply gonna out the person I aligned with, and we can vote them,

[Tsukibana]

Hell with it.  [v] tsuki [/v] If there are two more scum we will see where this goes.  Anyways they would already have won if that were the case.

 

And THIS is why I can't believe that Darthe is "one of the best players on DM"...

I am lynch-proof, without a vote-controller. I  NK ANY ONE PERSON on my train, when the night ends. Then scum nukes another Town.... assuming we don't target the same person, of course - thereby guaranteeing that Town loses. At least right now, you still have a chance, if they all stay quiet and hide. But can you really be that thick??

[Arsis]

 

 

Hell with it. [v] tsuki [/v] If there are two more scum we will see where this goes. Anyways they would already have won if that were the case.

And THIS is why I can't believe that Darthe is "one of the best players on DM"...

I am lynch-proof, without a vote-controller. I NK ANY ONE PERSON on my train, when the night ends. Then scum nukes another Town.... assuming we don't target the same person, of course - thereby guaranteeing that Town loses. At least right now, you still have a chance, if they all stay quiet and hide. But can you really be that thick??

Just vote darthe. It's not difficult.

[Darthe]

Who said I was one of the best on DM?  I don't try to be.  

[Darthe]

Also you're attempting to align with mafia atm, thus meaning that either town has already lost or you are falsifying your claim.  Either way it isn't a good deal for town to believe you right now and if they did they wouldn't play to it because it is Auto-loss for them and scum have to remain skeptical given that at least one more night will happen, meaning you could switch over and screw them.  You asking for a mafia reveal needlessly risks their team.  

[Darthe]

Also your claim doesn't make sense to be real.

 

If you are lynchproof at this stage and remain so once you're aligned with mafia then if all other mafians were dead you would be able and still ante-up mafia each night thus bringing the game to mafia auto-loss barring abilities that the town has been shown to not have so far (vote control or directed night kill).

[Darthe]

 

 

Hell with it. [v] tsuki [/v] If there are two more scum we will see where this goes. Anyways they would already have won if that were the case.

And THIS is why I can't believe that Darthe is "one of the best players on DM"...

I am lynch-proof, without a vote-controller. I NK ANY ONE PERSON on my train, when the night ends. Then scum nukes another Town.... assuming we don't target the same person, of course - thereby guaranteeing that Town loses. At least right now, you still have a chance, if they all stay quiet and hide. But can you really be that thick??

Just vote darthe. It's not difficult.

 

Did I make you feel dumb at some point or something?  If so you shouldn't take it personally.  I make myself look dumb all the time and I shrug it off and munch down some bacon with Crush at the end of it.  

[Darthe]

I am relying on Key and Len.

 

Did not think the town would ever see the day.

[Tsukibana]

Also your claim doesn't make sense to be real.

 

If you are lynchproof at this stage and remain so once you're aligned with mafia then if all other mafians were dead you would be able and still ante-up mafia each night thus bringing the game to mafia auto-loss barring abilities that the town has been shown to not have so far (vote control or directed night kill).

This doesn't make sense... if all other mafians were dead, then I couldn't target one to keep my alignment mafia... if I stay solo, I LOSE, simply by town controlling the majority, voting no-lynch... and so I must align with Town, to win... Worst that could happen is stalemate game - I stay Solo, Town keeps voting No-Lynch... I guess an asshat COULD do that, but why ruin the game... not my fault the vote-controllers are gone.

[Tsukibana]

Plus, aligning with mafia does not give me the NK, so... your logic fails again.

 

Arsis, Do you have any reason to think that you were Roleblocked last night?

[Darthe]

Aye, that strikes me as odd as well.  It makes more sense for you to be lying than for there to be two scum and you out there.  

 

In any case, by your role you should know for certain the alignments of some of the living right now if you've been using your ability, right?

 

So can't you technically decide this game for either alignment?

[Darthe]

Plus, aligning with mafia does not give me the NK, so... your logic fails again.

 

Arsis, Do you have any reason to think that you were Roleblocked last night?

You wouldn't need the NK so long as you could stalemate things forever but I inferred either way.  It wasn't logical, just assumptive.  Why/how would Arsis be RB'd?  Scum RB already flipped.

[Tsukibana]

Scum wins right now, by revealing. I am offering them that, since I am scum right now, and we can end this game today. No other night has to happen. Once the team is revealed, we (being scum) can vote no lynch - which is technically how the game ends, right? Since 3 scum would make it an impossibility to achieve a lynch.

If scum doesn't believe me in, what is it, 11 hours now, I shall hand this game to town. I will out the person I aligned with, we lynch them, and I shall target one of the two remaining people I have yet to share an alignment with - You, and Len... Day starts, And I out that person's alignment. Either way, town wins. 

 

Also you're attempting to align with mafia atm, thus meaning that either town has already lost or you are falsifying your claim.  Either way it isn't a good deal for town to believe you right now and if they did they wouldn't play to it because it is Auto-loss for them and scum have to remain skeptical given that at least one more night will happen, meaning you could switch over and screw them.  You asking for a mafia reveal needlessly risks their team.