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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

So would a full claim do that??

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

So would a full claim do that??

 

Not really, unless you mean you're volunteering?
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Because I saw multiple people with the hammer ability, it was an easy assumption that there were others that had similar "lynch leader" abilities

Unless someone wants to corroborate your theory I don't see any reason to take your word for it.

Sounds like something you cooked up because a bunch of townies claimed hammer abilities.

 

I believe Des because I have the same ability. If I successfully lead a lynch, my ability works .

 

 

So I was trying to pay attention to anyone who seemed to want to lead a train, and people who didn't want to move their vote if they were first

 

NotBob was as easy to pick out for this as it gets.

It's been a long game.

Mind citing where Notbob actively tries to lead a train?

I certainly don't remember him pushing on Darthe the hardest.

In fact up until his turn around I'd say Tom was Darthes biggest detractor.

 

Really, Nolder. If you haven't read what NotBob has been saying, please go back and do so. Almost his every post, he's been pushing Darthe. He starts his posts with-is Darthe dead yet? And relentless pushing. Aside from that, all I have seen is just a few comments from sidelines.

 

 

I AM UTTERLY CERTAIN THAT NOTBOB HAS RECRUITED TOMMY

The scene that ended day didn't remotely indicate this.

Not that is necessarily HAS to but that's just another piece of your puzzle that doesn't fit.

 

I think that if a recruit has happened, Mynd would not reveal it on thread. Because I believe that would compromise his game.

 

 

At first I figured he might be a Hero with a similar ability to mine, but after seeing Tommy's message to Nol there is no way that's the case.

 

Night actions haven't been resolved yet according to the OP, so only Day actions or actions carried out with a successful lynch or something could have happened

I have nothing to say about this but didn't want to cut it out either.

 

If you didn't have anything to say, why did you mention it. You didn't quote his post directly like a wot-you took out the quotes. So you particularly took out the quote. I don't like this one bit at all. Scummy

 

 

Had to interrupt my wot for that, and now I'm out of time. I might try and finish when I get home- for now, don't trust a word NotBob says, or Nolder in case he got recruited too or something. I'd also be wary of those who were introducing the recruitment talk as there is likely some TMI in there

 

DESPOT OUT

So now I've been recruited?

Ok genius let's go with that. Me Tommy and Notbob.

What's the angle for narrowing down the pool of people for town?

We can assume some people have investigative abilities. So what would they find? innocent results so how does that help us as scum?

We can assume there's a vig or two out there so let's say one or two of those people die and flip town. How does that help us as scum?

 

Bold-I don't understand these sentences at all. Firstly, who are these 'some people' you're talking about? And what are trying to get at here-vigs, investigative abilities. I'm sorry, I don't get you. What do you mean?
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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?
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I believe Des because I have the same ability. If I successfully lead a lynch, my ability works .

Ok so that part of his theory is corroborated.

 

Really, Nolder. If you haven't read what NotBob has been saying, please go back and do so. Almost his every post, he's been pushing Darthe. He starts his posts with-is Darthe dead yet? And relentless pushing. Aside from that, all I have seen is just a few comments from sidelines.

Notbob has made 40 posts in 131 pages.

Even if every single post had been pushing on Darthe I would not say he's pushed on Darthe the hardest, merely that he's been consistent.

Do you see the difference in that?

I'm not necessarily arguing that he didn't try to be the one to lead the train but like I said it's been a long game and I think a claim like this requires some citation. Is that so much to ask for from someone dropping a bombshell on the thread like that?

 

I think that if a recruit has happened, Mynd would not reveal it on thread. Because I believe that would compromise his game.

In all honesty I have next to no memory of any specifics from scenes from the last game...but my gut says you're wrong.

It's not like Mynd would specifically lay out "Thor was recruited tonight" but I believe he would indicate that there WAS a recruitment.

 

If you didn't have anything to say, why did you mention it. You didn't quote his post directly like a wot-you took out the quotes. So you particularly took out the quote. I don't like this one bit at all. Scummy

I mentioned it because there's always someone like you who comes along and tries to demonize me for cutting down on quotes so long posts are easier to read. In point of fact in this case I removed nothing but a gif and two oversized sentences which were both addressed in the meat of the post anyway so you're a damn liar. Everything he said in his two posts is included in mine.

 

 

So now I've been recruited?

Ok genius let's go with that. Me Tommy and Notbob.

What's the angle for narrowing down the pool of people for town?

We can assume some people have investigative abilities. So what would they find? innocent results so how does that help us as scum?

We can assume there's a vig or two out there so let's say one or two of those people die and flip town. How does that help us as scum?

Bold-I don't understand these sentences at all. Firstly, who are these 'some people' you're talking about? And what are trying to get at here-vigs, investigative abilities. I'm sorry, I don't get you. What do you mean?

 

I mean this is a large game and we can assume some people, as in people in this game (did this really need explaining?), probably have these common abilities. So what would a scum team of at least me/Tommy/Notbob have to gain from pointing the poweroles in the direction of those people?
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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?

 

The point is Des is trying to make a case here...without actually making it.

He's made the claim that he thinks Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train to use a recruitment ability.

So I want some proof. It's that simple. Prove to everyone that Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train.

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It´s hard to figure out people´s alignment from the voting since many (or maybe all) have some ability that has to do with voting. In my case, I can learn how many threats to the town there are on the lynchtrain as long as my vote is not on that train. (Kind of opposite to Hallia.) What we need to work with right now though is that we know that there are four non town players on Darthe´s lynch train. That is great info. 

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Really, Nolder. If you haven't read what NotBob has been saying, please go back and do so. Almost his every post, he's been pushing Darthe. He starts his posts with-is Darthe dead yet? And relentless pushing. Aside from that, all I have seen is just a few comments from sidelines.

Notbob has made 40 posts in 131 pages.

Even if every single post had been pushing on Darthe I would not say he's pushed on Darthe the hardest, merely that he's been consistent.

Do you see the difference in that?

I'm not necessarily arguing that he didn't try to be the one to lead the train but like I said it's been a long game and I think a claim like this requires some citation. Is that so much to ask for from someone dropping a bombshell on the thread like that?

 

What you say makes sense according to what you said, but I don't see it that way. In most of his posts he has commented on pushing Darthe to be the lynch. Rest of was just random comments from the sidelines. I didn't see him doing anything else. So I would say, from his posts, he has been pushing Darthe hard.

 

 

I think that if a recruit has happened, Mynd would not reveal it on thread. Because I believe that would compromise his game.

In all honesty I have next to no memory of any specifics from scenes from the last game...but my gut says you're wrong.

It's not like Mynd would specifically lay out "Thor was recruited tonight" but I believe he would indicate that there WAS a recruitment.

 

If he hinted at it, people would pick up on it. And that way, the mod would definitely be compromising the game according to me. I haven't played in any game with a cult, but according to the wiki-they say that, it's in the cult's best interest to hide the fact that there is one in the game. And if Mynd reveals or hints at it, he'll be spoiling a plan they have.

 

 

If you didn't have anything to say, why did you mention it. You didn't quote his post directly like a wot-you took out the quotes. So you particularly took out the quote. I don't like this one bit at all. Scummy

I mentioned it because there's always someone like you who comes along and tries to demonize me for cutting down on quotes so long posts are easier to read. In point of fact in this case I removed nothing but a gif and two oversized sentences which were both addressed in the meat of the post anyway so you're a damn liar. Everything he said in his two posts is included in mine.

 

Firstly, I wasn't calling you scummy for that. I called you scummy because, even though you had nothing, you particularly went out of your way to quote that post and then comment that you had nothing to say.

 

Seriously, why would you mention it if you had nothing to say. People would criticize you in a situation when you had something to say about something but couldn't get proper context if you cut down the quotes if they were trying to understand it.

You clearly didn't quote all of his post together, so there was nothing about cutting out. You took out quotes separately. So why did you take this out if you had nothing to say? If people wanted to read everything that Des said, they could just read his post.

 

I find you particularly scummy now-firstly for this but now your reaction to it.

 

 

 

So now I've been recruited?

Ok genius let's go with that. Me Tommy and Notbob.

What's the angle for narrowing down the pool of people for town?

We can assume some people have investigative abilities. So what would they find? innocent results so how does that help us as scum?

We can assume there's a vig or two out there so let's say one or two of those people die and flip town. How does that help us as scum?

Bold-I don't understand these sentences at all. Firstly, who are these 'some people' you're talking about? And what are trying to get at here-vigs, investigative abilities. I'm sorry, I don't get you. What do you mean?

 

I mean this is a large game and we can assume some people, as in people in this game (did this really need explaining?), probably have these common abilities. So what would a scum team of at least me/Tommy/Notbob have to gain from pointing the poweroles in the direction of those people?

 

A lot could be gained. Firstly by pointing the cop towards this group. If they were town, the cop wouldn't get a result. Clearing people is important-but that's useful towards the end of the game. Now, it's good if we find scum. So you could achieve misdirection.

Pointing a vig towards these people and if they were innocent like you said, there is a great chance that it could hit a townie. So there you guys could achieve a death of a townie.

 

So looking at it, I would say you have a lot to achieve if you people are scum.

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It´s hard to figure out people´s alignment from the voting since many (or maybe all) have some ability that has to do with voting. In my case, I can learn how many threats to the town there are on the lynchtrain as long as my vote is not on that train. (Kind of opposite to Hallia.) What we need to work with right now though is that we know that there are four non town players on Darthe´s lynch train. That is great info.

So...at the end of the day you pick which train you want to check?

Because there can be several trains you're not on.

 

Also yes exactly.

Note that Des and X are basically calling you and Hallia liars by extension.

They're trying to shift the focus from finding these 4 people to some conspiracy about me/tommy/notbob.

 

I don't understand what's so hard to believe that Tommy would be silenced so he can't clear Darthe for sure until later and that he was contacted by a neighbor role. Like Tommy is center of attention right now, why wouldn't people be using powers on him?

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Firstly, I wasn't calling you scummy for that. I called you scummy because, even though you had nothing, you particularly went out of your way to quote that post and then comment that you had nothing to say.

 
Seriously, why would you mention it if you had nothing to say. People would criticize you in a situation when you had something to say about something but couldn't get proper context if you cut down the quotes if they were trying to understand it.
You clearly didn't quote all of his post together, so there was nothing about cutting out. You took out quotes separately. So why did you take this out if you had nothing to say? If people wanted to read everything that Des said, they could just read his post.
 
I find you particularly scummy now-firstly for this but now your reaction to it.

Because when I cut things out of posts for brevity people, especially the person I'm quoting, says I'm taking things out of context even when what I'm cutting out is usually irrelevant.

You're fabrication suspicion out of nothing. 

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?

 

The point is Des is trying to make a case here...without actually making it.

He's made the claim that he thinks Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train to use a recruitment ability.

So I want some proof. It's that simple. Prove to everyone that Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train.

 

Des said that it was NotBob placed himself intentionally. Ok. But when he said this, you could have just commented what you just told me in return. Instead, you went on to say that NotBob wasn't focused much on Darthe. But when Vos pointed out the contrary, you immediately backed it up by saying that it was not the point.

 

I'm not focusing on why you suspect Des. I'm focusing on what you said to Vos in response to his comment. And this feels suspicious.

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A lot could be gained. Firstly by pointing the cop towards this group. If they were town, the cop wouldn't get a result. Clearing people is important-but that's useful towards the end of the game. Now, it's good if we find scum. So you could achieve misdirection.

Pointing a vig towards these people and if they were innocent like you said, there is a great chance that it could hit a townie. So there you guys could achieve a death of a townie.
 
So looking at it, I would say you have a lot to achieve if you people are scum. 

Your statements are contradictory.

You're saying that pointing a cop at a group of townies helps scum...but it doesn't. It really doesn't especially in this game.

What happens when because of our actions we inadvertently clear some awesome power roles?

Wtf is the point of that misdirection? We're risking being exposed so a cop, who more than likely would have targeted a townie anyway, can...target a townie? what?

 

Or take the vig example. We're going to lead a killing role to the wrong targets so when he decides he's been duped (if he even agrees to being led) he can just turn around and gun us all down?

 

No. These actions would be retarded as a scum group.

That's awful play and neither I, Tommy, or Notbob would do something so stupid.

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?

 

The point is Des is trying to make a case here...without actually making it.

He's made the claim that he thinks Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train to use a recruitment ability.

So I want some proof. It's that simple. Prove to everyone that Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train.

 

Des said that it was NotBob placed himself intentionally. Ok. But when he said this, you could have just commented what you just told me in return. Instead, you went on to say that NotBob wasn't focused much on Darthe. But when Vos pointed out the contrary, you immediately backed it up by saying that it was not the point.

 

I'm not focusing on why you suspect Des. I'm focusing on what you said to Vos in response to his comment. And this feels suspicious.

 

Whatever you say buddy.

 

Keep saying "suspicious" and maybe if you click your heels three times as well it'll stick. 

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ATTN: MESSAGE FROM TOM
 
 

 

Jesus Christ Des. Did you forget I have a mason? When the talk of symps and recruiters in early-mod D1 was occurring I asked Mynd if I can be recruited and he said my alignment AND my masons alignment will not be changing in this game. That means we cannot be recruited. I hypothesized that specific information MIGHT mean OTHER people can be recruited which fits my personal idea of game balance (large scum teams are easier to take down due to coordination and linking). BUT it also means there might not be recruitment at all OR there's a very specific character that joins scum later, something along those lines. 

 
But your mass panic and total bullshit paranoia reads as redonk levels of scummy; I would expect that post from Mynd-Red's conspiracy child, not from you.
 
We already know 4/7 are scum if the census is to be trusted; let's not INSTANTLY deflect from that -- attempting to can only be pro-scum rhetoric.
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It´s hard to figure out people´s alignment from the voting since many (or maybe all) have some ability that has to do with voting. In my case, I can learn how many threats to the town there are on the lynchtrain as long as my vote is not on that train. (Kind of opposite to Hallia.) What we need to work with right now though is that we know that there are four non town players on Darthe´s lynch train. That is great info.

So...at the end of the day you pick which train you want to check?

Because there can be several trains you're not on.

 

Also yes exactly.

Note that Des and X are basically calling you and Hallia liars by extension.

They're trying to shift the focus from finding these 4 people to some conspiracy about me/tommy/notbob.

 

I don't understand what's so hard to believe that Tommy would be silenced so he can't clear Darthe for sure until later and that he was contacted by a neighbor role. Like Tommy is center of attention right now, why wouldn't people be using powers on him?

 

Nice misconstruing, Nolder. Just when I put pressure you. Do enlighten me, how am I and Des calling Tina and Hallia liars by extension? 

 

I never said I didn't believe them to be liars. If I did, I wouldn't give my reads on the other people on the train who weren't cleared. When Des asked, if sensor reads were given, I wouldn't tell him about what Hallia found.

 

To me, it looks like what Des said is not at all related to Tina or Hallia. He's accusing you guys. Why are you trying to shift the focus away from you? 

 

See, I never said I believed Des. All I said was I believe his claim of having a leader of a lynch ability because I have one. All other stuff I concentrated on was your responses to his case.

 

I see you're panicking 

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Firstly, I wasn't calling you scummy for that. I called you scummy because, even though you had nothing, you particularly went out of your way to quote that post and then comment that you had nothing to say.

 
Seriously, why would you mention it if you had nothing to say. People would criticize you in a situation when you had something to say about something but couldn't get proper context if you cut down the quotes if they were trying to understand it.
You clearly didn't quote all of his post together, so there was nothing about cutting out. You took out quotes separately. So why did you take this out if you had nothing to say? If people wanted to read everything that Des said, they could just read his post.
 
I find you particularly scummy now-firstly for this but now your reaction to it.

Because when I cut things out of posts for brevity people, especially the person I'm quoting, says I'm taking things out of context even when what I'm cutting out is usually irrelevant.

You're fabrication suspicion out of nothing. 

 

Again, what you are pointing out is not what I'm finding you scummy for.

 

Read it again

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 Why are you trying to shift the focus away from you? 

Because it doesn't belong on me in the first place.

Des and now you are trying to deflect from these 4 scum in a hot place.

Talk about panicking.

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It´s hard to figure out people´s alignment from the voting since many (or maybe all) have some ability that has to do with voting. In my case, I can learn how many threats to the town there are on the lynchtrain as long as my vote is not on that train. (Kind of opposite to Hallia.) What we need to work with right now though is that we know that there are four non town players on Darthe´s lynch train. That is great info.

So...at the end of the day you pick which train you want to check?

Because there can be several trains you're not on.

 

Also yes exactly.

Note that Des and X are basically calling you and Hallia liars by extension.

They're trying to shift the focus from finding these 4 people to some conspiracy about me/tommy/notbob.

 

I don't understand what's so hard to believe that Tommy would be silenced so he can't clear Darthe for sure until later and that he was contacted by a neighbor role. Like Tommy is center of attention right now, why wouldn't people be using powers on him?

 

 

No, I can only check the train of the one being lynched. 

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A lot could be gained. Firstly by pointing the cop towards this group. If they were town, the cop wouldn't get a result. Clearing people is important-but that's useful towards the end of the game. Now, it's good if we find scum. So you could achieve misdirection.

Pointing a vig towards these people and if they were innocent like you said, there is a great chance that it could hit a townie. So there you guys could achieve a death of a townie.
 
So looking at it, I would say you have a lot to achieve if you people are scum. 

Your statements are contradictory.

You're saying that pointing a cop at a group of townies helps scum...but it doesn't. It really doesn't especially in this game.

What happens when because of our actions we inadvertently clear some awesome power roles?

Wtf is the point of that misdirection? We're risking being exposed so a cop, who more than likely would have targeted a townie anyway, can...target a townie? what?

 

Or take the vig example. We're going to lead a killing role to the wrong targets so when he decides he's been duped (if he even agrees to being led) he can just turn around and gun us all down?

 

No. These actions would be retarded as a scum group.

That's awful play and neither I, Tommy, or Notbob would do something so stupid.

 

My statements are not contradictory. You clear townies, sure. As the game progresses that's helpful. At this point, what is helpful would be a catching a scum.

 

The part where he decided to being led is already being done. People are telling others to focus on that group. A vig may not do that instantly. I think the group pointed out had around 6-7 people. Acc. to what Tina and Hallia said there are 4 scum on it. So there is a chance that a townie could be gunned down. Every townie killed is a loss for town.

 

And the last line, is complete nonsense. You know why? Because in my game, Tommy kept on saying-he wouldn't have an amateur move or do some stupid action as scum. And guess what ? He was scum and his stupid/amateurish action worked. And because he kept saying that, people took suspicion of him. 

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?

 

The point is Des is trying to make a case here...without actually making it.

He's made the claim that he thinks Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train to use a recruitment ability.

So I want some proof. It's that simple. Prove to everyone that Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train.

 

Des said that it was NotBob placed himself intentionally. Ok. But when he said this, you could have just commented what you just told me in return. Instead, you went on to say that NotBob wasn't focused much on Darthe. But when Vos pointed out the contrary, you immediately backed it up by saying that it was not the point.

 

I'm not focusing on why you suspect Des. I'm focusing on what you said to Vos in response to his comment. And this feels suspicious.

 

Whatever you say buddy.

 

Keep saying "suspicious" and maybe if you click your heels three times as well it'll stick. 

 

I'm not saying it should stick. But it appears to me so. And nice attempt to avoid answering me. 

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It´s hard to figure out people´s alignment from the voting since many (or maybe all) have some ability that has to do with voting. In my case, I can learn how many threats to the town there are on the lynchtrain as long as my vote is not on that train. (Kind of opposite to Hallia.) What we need to work with right now though is that we know that there are four non town players on Darthe´s lynch train. That is great info.

So...at the end of the day you pick which train you want to check?

Because there can be several trains you're not on.

 

Also yes exactly.

Note that Des and X are basically calling you and Hallia liars by extension.

They're trying to shift the focus from finding these 4 people to some conspiracy about me/tommy/notbob.

 

I don't understand what's so hard to believe that Tommy would be silenced so he can't clear Darthe for sure until later and that he was contacted by a neighbor role. Like Tommy is center of attention right now, why wouldn't people be using powers on him?

 

 

No, I can only check the train of the one being lynched. 

 

Oh ok. That makes more sense actually.

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Just as a PS to Nolder before I digest this, if you didn't catch NotBob pushing everyone to lynch Darthe then you weren't paying attention to the game at all.

Not really the point tbh.

Des is making a shitton of claims and allegations here.

He needs to back them up.

 

Why is this not a point? It's something you pushed against one part of his post. And now when, somebody pointed out you were wrong, it suddenly becomes not a point? Why did you say it, if it's not a point?

 

The point is Des is trying to make a case here...without actually making it.

He's made the claim that he thinks Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train to use a recruitment ability.

So I want some proof. It's that simple. Prove to everyone that Notbob intentionally placed himself at the head of a train.

 

Des said that it was NotBob placed himself intentionally. Ok. But when he said this, you could have just commented what you just told me in return. Instead, you went on to say that NotBob wasn't focused much on Darthe. But when Vos pointed out the contrary, you immediately backed it up by saying that it was not the point.

 

I'm not focusing on why you suspect Des. I'm focusing on what you said to Vos in response to his comment. And this feels suspicious.

 

Whatever you say buddy.

 

Keep saying "suspicious" and maybe if you click your heels three times as well it'll stick. 

 

I'm not saying it should stick. But it appears to me so. And nice attempt to avoid answering me. 

 

I don't see any question marks.

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he part where he decided to being led is already being done. People are telling others to focus on that group. A vig may not do that instantly. I think the group pointed out had around 6-7 people. Acc. to what Tina and Hallia said there are 4 scum on it. So there is a chance that a townie could be gunned down. Every townie killed is a loss for town.

 

So a vig should never shoot unless they're 100% their target is scum? Town shouldn't risk a mislynch without a confirmed cops guilty?

 

We have a solid bead on scum and you're pointing at the people who led us there.

How does that make any sense?

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