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Xthrax

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Myndrunner Grand Master

Myndrunner

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I think you're scum and we've been WIFOMing ourselves senseless this whole time.  Just saying...

 

1) You were the last of the three on the D1 standoff still alive

 

2) You have avoided a lot of questions with trolling

 

3) You seemed accepting of your fate until recently

 

4) In our gut, most of us think its you

 

5) You didn't flirt with Nyn as much as you normally do.  Likely distancing.

 

That's my case. 

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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I begin to think that the scum team is Mynd/Clov.  It would disappoint me if NB was not scum but I am not certain of what to make of his interactions with Mynd who sticks out badly today.  However, my only reasoning against Clov is that he supposedly plays exactly like me and I would expect myself to behave more... aggressively in this situation as town.  This is why we are taking the time that we are to discuss, or rather for you all to discuss and me decide.  

 

I've also contemplated no vote today and come to the realization that scum would simply pile on someone and win due to the deadline majority.  Even should they not do so it would only result in the same situation tomorrow with my death and them needing one less voter for a lynch.

 

Since it has to be today based on the above I think we need to make a definitive choice and hammer someone.  Otherwise scum can break any tie the town might create, limiting the possibility of a deadline majority on our side.

 

What I am saying is I am crossing Clov out of the mix for today.  There isn't enough consensus on him and we can be sure that at least 1/2 is in Mynd/NB.  50% odds instead of 66%, yes, but perhaps a simpler view of the game is allowed based on this.  In lieu of this decision we can now focus exclusively on those two.  Notably, since Mynd is already voting NB and NB now has to vote Mynd either train that I join cannot be hammered by scum until 1 more townie jumps on it if we are wrong, meaning the onus is on the town to lead this.

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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NB, I don't think Darthe had unvoted at the time of the VC you quoted

He quoted it I just coded the unvote incorrectly.  It's alright, I fixed it.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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I begin to think that the scum team is Mynd/Clov.  It would disappoint me if NB was not scum but I am not certain of what to make of his interactions with Mynd who sticks out badly today.  However, my only reasoning against Clov is that he supposedly plays exactly like me and I would expect myself to behave more... aggressively in this situation as town.  This is why we are taking the time that we are to discuss, or rather for you all to discuss and me decide.  

 

I've also contemplated no vote today and come to the realization that scum would simply pile on someone and win due to the deadline majority.  Even should they not do so it would only result in the same situation tomorrow with my death and them needing one less voter for a lynch.

 

Since it has to be today based on the above I think we need to make a definitive choice and hammer someone.  Otherwise scum can break any tie the town might create, limiting the possibility of a deadline majority on our side.

 

What I am saying is I am crossing Clov out of the mix for today.  There isn't enough consensus on him and we can be sure that at least 1/2 is in Mynd/NB.  50% odds instead of 66%, yes, but perhaps a simpler view of the game is allowed based on this.  In lieu of this decision we can now focus exclusively on those two.  Notably, since Mynd is already voting NB and NB now has to vote Mynd either train that I join cannot be hammered by scum until 1 more townie jumps on it if we are wrong, meaning the onus is on the town to lead this.

 

My intention today is to lend you my vote unless you voted me.  I can wait till you vote or just vote now...your call.  I will not change it unless you ask me to.  Do you want me to vote Mynd at this time?

Xthrax Experienced

Xthrax

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NB, I don't think Darthe had unvoted at the time of the VC you quoted

He quoted it I just coded the unvote incorrectly. It's alright, I fixed it.

And that is why I did not count it

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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I think your post, the one where you finished a review of each person with big red letters saying "likely scum unless ____" etc was pretty awful and your flip flops on who is what have been fairly suspect but all in all I can't claim that to be scummy behavior.  I would expect a townie to be paranoid here.  I'm keeping you on my list because it is an odd series of plays that we have seen from you today, ones that make more sense but are far less compelling if genuine.

 

Notbob has been safing his way through today.  He seems to have taken the forefront of discussion for most people, mainly because I put him there I think and Tommy ran with it, and is playing to that.  I'm not sure how I feel about him but I know there's a scum between him and Tommy and am not willing to go Tommy because of how much significantly cleaner his game has been.  Frankly I have to go with what makes the most sense over any paranoia etc and thus Notbob is essentially nonredeemable at this stage.  Notably the post in 1783 really shows how much he wants to get me on his side.  It's not genuine at all but it is certainly placating.

 

Clov has tried to back away from attention without looking like he is backing away.  I don't want to vote him today because he did make solid points and I think he will likely win in a thunderdome with you (mynd) but town deserves the chance to decide that for themselves.  Gut says that he is the last scum.  If he is I'll be proud that I viewed Nyn N1, Clov N2, Mynd N3 and pegged NB without a view D4.  But that's dream scenario.  I anticipate that we lose this game tomorrow if Clov shows up in force and you try to fight to that.  However I could always be wrong.

 

[v] notbob [/v]

 

Town, I think I am ready.  

Darthe Spam Master

Darthe

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I begin to think that the scum team is Mynd/Clov.  It would disappoint me if NB was not scum but I am not certain of what to make of his interactions with Mynd who sticks out badly today.  However, my only reasoning against Clov is that he supposedly plays exactly like me and I would expect myself to behave more... aggressively in this situation as town.  This is why we are taking the time that we are to discuss, or rather for you all to discuss and me decide.  

 

I've also contemplated no vote today and come to the realization that scum would simply pile on someone and win due to the deadline majority.  Even should they not do so it would only result in the same situation tomorrow with my death and them needing one less voter for a lynch.

 

Since it has to be today based on the above I think we need to make a definitive choice and hammer someone.  Otherwise scum can break any tie the town might create, limiting the possibility of a deadline majority on our side.

 

What I am saying is I am crossing Clov out of the mix for today.  There isn't enough consensus on him and we can be sure that at least 1/2 is in Mynd/NB.  50% odds instead of 66%, yes, but perhaps a simpler view of the game is allowed based on this.  In lieu of this decision we can now focus exclusively on those two.  Notably, since Mynd is already voting NB and NB now has to vote Mynd either train that I join cannot be hammered by scum until 1 more townie jumps on it if we are wrong, meaning the onus is on the town to lead this.

 

My intention today is to lend you my vote unless you voted me.  I can wait till you vote or just vote now...your call.  I will not change it unless you ask me to.  Do you want me to vote Mynd at this time?

 

Vote yourself.  You've nothing to lose that isn't going to be taken care of by either town or scum regardless and you help get this day over faster.

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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NB not having any WIM until his back is completely against the wall is telling. This is like the fifth time I've invited him to clear himself through posting and he's chided me.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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I think your post, the one where you finished a review of each person with big red letters saying "likely scum unless ____" etc was pretty awful and your flip flops on who is what have been fairly suspect but all in all I can't claim that to be scummy behavior.  I would expect a townie to be paranoid here.  I'm keeping you on my list because it is an odd series of plays that we have seen from you today, ones that make more sense but are far less compelling if genuine.

 

Notbob has been safing his way through today.  He seems to have taken the forefront of discussion for most people, mainly because I put him there I think and Tommy ran with it, and is playing to that.  I'm not sure how I feel about him but I know there's a scum between him and Tommy and am not willing to go Tommy because of how much significantly cleaner his game has been.  Frankly I have to go with what makes the most sense over any paranoia etc and thus Notbob is essentially nonredeemable at this stage.  Notably the post in 1783 really shows how much he wants to get me on his side.  It's not genuine at all but it is certainly placating.

 

Clov has tried to back away from attention without looking like he is backing away.  I don't want to vote him today because he did make solid points and I think he will likely win in a thunderdome with you (mynd) but town deserves the chance to decide that for themselves.  Gut says that he is the last scum.  If he is I'll be proud that I viewed Nyn N1, Clov N2, Mynd N3 and pegged NB without a view D4.  But that's dream scenario.  I anticipate that we lose this game tomorrow if Clov shows up in force and you try to fight to that.  However I could always be wrong.

 

[v] notbob [/v]

 

Town, I think I am ready.  

 

Good game then.  It's Mynd and Tommy.  See you guys in the post game.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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I begin to think that the scum team is Mynd/Clov.  It would disappoint me if NB was not scum but I am not certain of what to make of his interactions with Mynd who sticks out badly today.  However, my only reasoning against Clov is that he supposedly plays exactly like me and I would expect myself to behave more... aggressively in this situation as town.  This is why we are taking the time that we are to discuss, or rather for you all to discuss and me decide.  

 

I've also contemplated no vote today and come to the realization that scum would simply pile on someone and win due to the deadline majority.  Even should they not do so it would only result in the same situation tomorrow with my death and them needing one less voter for a lynch.

 

Since it has to be today based on the above I think we need to make a definitive choice and hammer someone.  Otherwise scum can break any tie the town might create, limiting the possibility of a deadline majority on our side.

 

What I am saying is I am crossing Clov out of the mix for today.  There isn't enough consensus on him and we can be sure that at least 1/2 is in Mynd/NB.  50% odds instead of 66%, yes, but perhaps a simpler view of the game is allowed based on this.  In lieu of this decision we can now focus exclusively on those two.  Notably, since Mynd is already voting NB and NB now has to vote Mynd either train that I join cannot be hammered by scum until 1 more townie jumps on it if we are wrong, meaning the onus is on the town to lead this.

 

My intention today is to lend you my vote unless you voted me.  I can wait till you vote or just vote now...your call.  I will not change it unless you ask me to.  Do you want me to vote Mynd at this time?

 

Vote yourself.  You've nothing to lose that isn't going to be taken care of by either town or scum regardless and you help get this day over faster.

 

 

I don't self vote!  Argo!

Myndrunner Grand Master

Myndrunner

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In all honesty, my brain is fried on this deal.  I'm suspicious of everyone but the more I prodded, the scummier I became in everyone's eyes.  I feel like the kid trying to solve the Rubix Cube with the stickers pealed off.

 

If NotBob flips town its game over anyways and I'll be out of my misery.  (Not that the game has been miserable, it's been an awesome challenge, I love the setup and storyline X, as a true TRON fan). 

 

Gun to head, I think it's Clov/Notbob.  If I'm wrong, then well played.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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Dude, if its Darthe/Rand I'm gonna scream!!!!!

 

Scumdelicious!

 

 

That should be a candy bar!

 

 

You are a very strong player...sowed wifom right till the end...even added the Nyn flirtation into your case...I'd like to applaud but I hate losing more than like winning...I'll drown my sorrow in coffee.

 

Good game again.

Tommyrod Grand Master

Tommyrod

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Dude, if its Darthe/Rand I'm gonna scream!!!!!

Scumdelicious!

That should be a candy bar!

You are a very strong player...sowed wifom right till the end...even added the Nyn flirtation into your case...I'd like to applaud but I hate losing more than like winning...I'll drown my sorrow in coffee.

 

Good game again.

This is some quality trolling though. Thumbs up.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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Dude, if its Darthe/Rand I'm gonna scream!!!!!

Scumdelicious!

That should be a candy bar!

You are a very strong player...sowed wifom right till the end...even added the Nyn flirtation into your case...I'd like to applaud but I hate losing more than like winning...I'll drown my sorrow in coffee.

 

Good game again.

This is some quality trolling though. Thumbs up.

 

 

To the winner goes the spoils.

RandA lThor Spam Master

RandA lThor

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NotBob

 

Why he might be town - He seems like he's working alone.  As the only survivor from the D1 three-way, he hasn't really made a vote move that I would consider scummy.  He is right to follow Darthe's lead as he has been.  His "trolling" is as much a scumshaker as it could be interpreted as a scum tell. 

 

Why he is probably scum - As the only survivor of the D1 three-way, it makes sense that he was the one the scum didn't want to vote on.  That situation put the scum in a difficult position.  If they voted Lenlo or Beefarmi, then they could risk looking like they were saving NotBob.  If they voted NotBob, they could end up making him the lynch.  At that time, I recall thinking that at least one of those lynches had to be scum, but maybe even two of them.  Also, this is more of a meta than anything, but I noticed less flirting with Nyn this game.  Maybe that's because he did most of it on the mafia QT?

Verdict: probably scum

 

TommyRod

 

Why he might be town - He has played a near flawless game as town or scum, and up until now, he has kept calm and logical.   He asked the right questions and got a lot more responses from people then they were likely willing to give.

 

Why he is probably scum - The whole no-emo contract was a bit over the top.  I remember thinking, is this some kind of preemptive excuse for his lack of trolling?  While I like playing with more logical and less flamboyant Tommy, I couldn't help but wonder, is this for real?  Also, Tommy is, by his own admission, one of the best players in the game.  So why is he still alive on D4?  If I was mafia and saw Tommy as a threat, who has been clear by nearly everyone up to this point, I'd have taken him out by N2 at the latest.  Finally, I don't like his insistence on pushing the TG/Mynd thing on N3 long after we both had tried to cool on it.  I kept saying "I'm waiting until D4" hoping that the scum took my soft doc claim for cereal.  I think the sole purpose for rekindling that fire was to set up D4.  Funny thing, I thought TG was doc-fishing.  Only a mafia would have suspected that TG was the actual doc and soft claiming.  For mafia, it's either him or.....

Verdict: probably scum

 

Clov

Why he could be town - Nothing really. He's trying to make cases, I guess?

Why he is probably scum - His cases are a big stretch.  Its like he begins his casing with a prejudice in mynd and takes every post completely out of context.  The dogpile on DT didn't seem to make sense at all.  Why didn't he and Tommy wait for DT to at least return to get some info as Darthe advised?  For someone who is trying to act methodical and logical, that was a pretty hasty and illogical thing to do.  We had plenty of time and he didn't need to hammer.  It is as if he got nervous and was afraid that the lynch wouldn't go through if we let him talk.  It is as if he knew that Darthe was lying about his mafia read on him.  Same goes for Tommy on this, but I don't believe that Tommy is scum with Clov. 

Verdict: probably scum, but town if Tommy flips scum

K, why did you switch views on Tommy again?

 

Dude, if its Darthe/Rand I'm gonna scream!!!!!

We're pretty much the best maf team ever.  We coroner switched the cop into a vanilla town, took the cop role, and I've been playing uber townie ever since. :P

 

NB not having any WIM until his back is completely against the wall is telling. This is like the fifth time I've invited him to clear himself through posting and he's chided me.

K Tommy posted after the chance for two mafiosos to hammer, no vote.

 

[v]NotBob[/v]

 

Don't think anyone has a higher chance of flipping scum.

Scratch that vote happened, one sec let me think about this.

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