[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[csarmi]

Vote Count - 1.14

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Straw Hats (5) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM, SexySisters, RTL

Sexy Sisters (1) - Strawhats

Evil Siblings (3) - YoloHashSwag, Spliffanity, CRUNK

CRUNK (1) - Evil Siblings

WiFuM (1) - PFG

not voting : JTAG

 

Deadline: Deadline-D1

 

A little less than 6 hours to go.

[Pralaya]

Csarmi, you didn't take my vote change. 

[csarmi]

Sorry, fixing.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Hi. Sorry for being absent. Hopefully things will improve.

 

I think both claims will have at least an element of truth in them. A tracker can easily be Mafia. It's a good way of them finding power roles and stuff. If anyone visits themselves they shout and woop in think they've got the doc. Also Ameg's phrasing of his role irked me. He said 'the tracker' rather than 'a tracker' - like he couldn't deal with the posibility of ambiguity. How would he know if he was the only similar type of role in a game.

 

The bodyguard claim could also be technically true - but who are they a bodyguard too?

 

See this:

 

The Salarian Bodyguards are a duo of salarians encountered in the Lower Markets on the Wards. Their job is to protect Chorban if Shepard is forced to fight him.

 

Bad Bodyguards.

 

 

**please remember that you can NOT role claim in this game** but you certainly go poking about the wiki for info.

 

Also it's 6 hours and there's been little to no 'consolidation' on the Hats. Maybe they hoping for a hail mary?

 

Perhaps Jack's play was meant to be that.

[Sedai]

  On 4/1/2014 at 9:10 AM, Pralaya said:

First, the Cory and Jack interaction that spanned nearly 4-5 pages. That was mostly useless and just both of them trying to toot their own horns. Nothing  much to comment on that. What is interesting is that the case on Amega/Thane was mostly based on the linking between Jack/Lily and Amega/Thane teams. Both teams were linked early, the cases were primarily focused on their link and this has been the way throughout Day 1. Whether it was busing each other, Amega calling out Lily by mistake, Thane quickly believing Amega's claim etc. Now that we have got claims from both of them, I find it weird that Turin intends to believe only one of them with a very, very flimsy reason. That he believes BG claim but does not believe the Tracker claim because he could be a scum tracker (how he comes to that opinion is never specified). Wasn't the case on SH primarily based on both of them being scum? This is where Ithi and Turin start planting the idea that SH and ES are linked. Ithi starts out here   

  On 3/29/2014 at 6:51 PM, Ithillian said:

Do you think Ameg and whoever and lily and Jack are in a QT together?Is that why he got Hallia's name so wrong - and was so certain he snarked at me for questioning him?And then Jack and Lily both pop up in quick succession to correct him.If Ameg is Mafia he usually does or says something silly. Maybe this was it.Is there anyone who hasn't done something suspicious yet? Please raise your hand.

 Turin immediately follows with his credence of the idea  

  On 3/29/2014 at 6:57 PM, Turin Turambar said:

*raises hand, looks around, lowers again*  I forgot about when I was FRANTIC, lol. I think maybe X, but he was/is out of the country ATM.   interesting idea about Amega and the EVIL SIBS. Amega's partner is Thane the nudger  BTW.

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 7:09 PM, Ithillian said:

Ah. So Jack gets to nudge and distance whilst voting Hallia for having too much information.Then Ameg is meant to come on and say that Hallia said a reasonable thing but got the name wrong and said Lily instead.Lol. Epic.

 

 I don't like the whole discussing of ideas between themselves in the thread instead of QT. It is almost as if trying to influence us with their thinking. As if trying to plant an idea and influence us into voting someone.  Turin pushes the same thing again after Amega's claim. Again linking Jack to Amega. Post linked here 

  On 3/31/2014 at 4:59 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Excuse me for being cynical but this looks like a staged play. first Amega makes a town claim without a role. My take is that if you were gonna role claim at L-1 you might as well have done it at L-2. That Jack was the one prodding you for last words (reads) and/or a claim only makes me more suspicious of both of you. The entire thing looks too neat.  My vote stays unless someone can make a better case for someone else.   Here is your opportunity AJ. convince me.

 After we have the claims on both of them, Turin's view is completely different. Which is fine, because of the claims, but him trying to push one claim as true and the other as false stinks. Especially after his main case was based on their link.  

  On 4/1/2014 at 3:22 AM, Turin Turambar said:

One big reason to me is that I find ES' claim of town BG to be more believable than SH claim of town Tracker. I am of the opinion that a tracker in this game will be mafia. you can go on about play over claims but I don't find SH's play to be very good at all. Jack's reason for backing off to try to test the claim is prudent. I disagree with it but I do see why it could be done. hould be around to try to secure a lynch. I know there is no penalty but I do think it is in the town's best interest to get a lynch with a flip today.

 Personally, I am believing both the claims. The tracker is a risky claim. The BG is a harmless claim and if Jack was scum and linked to Amega, we would have seen a claim which the scum could have gained some advantage in knowing the roles.  ##vote WiFuM

There's so much wrong with the first part of that post it's silly.

 

1. I never attempted to toot my own horn. Cory did, I didn't.

2. There's plenty to see, Cory calls me out for stuff that he himself is doing.

3. A lot can be found there

4. What was the early bussing. Was it us voting my customary #11 as I've said. Or pointing out the blatant omgus vote? Other then that I don't see any real early interplay. Towards the end I pushed for a reveal and unvoted after one was received. But they never did any reciprocating so I don't see where we bussed each other

5. Thane believed Amega's claim cause they are on a team. Easy enough

6. If you mean I believed their claim. I did because they aren't a traditional cop. The role lily and I have isn't a traditional doc so it was easy to believe it.

7. Where did BG come from?

 

So many issues

[Sedai]

Ithi. Our power can protect whoever we chose. We can not protect ourselves. We also have a little something to make up for that fact. But it's the same mechanics other wise as a traditional body Gaurd. Anyone we protect, if that person gets targeted we die.

[Ithillian Turambar]

@ Pray - me and Turin are not discussing thoughts about the game in our QT

 

@ Jack - I know what a bodyguard is. It's Turin's favourite option for a fake claim when he's Mafia

[Sedai]

You assumed we are body Gaurd for a certain player. I'm saying we have no stipulation

[Ithillian Turambar]

I said that you could be bad bodyguards.

 

And the tracker could be a bad tracker.

 

Claiming a role does not confer automatic Township on you or anyone else.

 

People fib.

[Sedai]

Oh I agree. I was just clarifying.

 

What do you think about Pray Ithi? The bungling of his recap and everything?

 

What's your impression or mine and Cory's back and forth?

[csarmi]

Roleclaiming is allowed. Character claiming, character hinting (this includes trying to guess any other player's characters) is against the rules.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Cory was being rrrrrrraaaaaaaaah and you were being reasonable.

 

I must confess I wasn't really paying that much attention whilst I've been absent. I can look at whatever pral posted when I get on the pooter tonight maybe. Depends how things go. It's a total pain in the arse to go back on my phone.

 

I've been thinking though - how come people reveal at L-1 and then folks drop off and say 'oh my bad - I've been spending all this time making a case on you and I so strongly thought you were Mafia that I voted you, but now you've claimed a Role I must be totally mistaken'

 

If you believe someone is Mafia then you must believe that they's be prepared to lie to protect themselves - so why would anyone instantly just accept a role claim - without even questioning any details?

 

It's just weird.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Oh dear

 

I wasn't trying to guess them - I was just putting it out that the possibility of bad bodyguards exists.

[csarmi]

Yup, you're alright.

 

For future reference, general inferences based on the theme (what sort of roles and characters might exist in the game) are okay. Any sort of specifics on 'who-is-who' are not. I'm sure you guys are experienced enough to know where's the line and why. In case of any questions, please PM me.

[Sedai]

Ithi, just erring on the side of caution.

 

And in this circumstance, due to my role, it lenses credibility to thane/Ameg imo

[Cory Caboose]

When are the reasonable people coming out to play?

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:45 PM, Jack_D said:

Ithi, just erring on the side of caution.

 

And in this circumstance, due to my role, it lenses credibility to thane/Ameg imo

So ... You were wrong to vote him? The stuff you had on him that convinced you to vote him was all off?

 

Why don't you go revisit him and his posts now that you're feeling 'cautious' about him and tell me where you got it wrong?

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:53 PM, corycurren said:

When are the reasonable people coming out to play?

Why aren't you shouting?

 

@Jack - Turin explained to me why a bodyguard matches with a tracker. It kind of all makes sense.

[csarmi]

4 hours left.

[Pralaya]

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:02 PM, Jack_D said:

There's so much wrong with the first part of that post it's silly.

1. I never attempted to toot my own horn. Cory did, I didn't.

2. There's plenty to see, Cory calls me out for stuff that he himself is doing.

3. A lot can be found there

4. What was the early bussing. Was it us voting my customary #11 as I've said. Or pointing out the blatant omgus vote? Other then that I don't see any real early interplay. Towards the end I pushed for a reveal and unvoted after one was received. But they never did any reciprocating so I don't see where we bussed each other

5. Thane believed Amega's claim cause they are on a team. Easy enough

6. If you mean I believed their claim. I did because they aren't a traditional cop. The role lily and I have isn't a traditional doc so it was easy to believe it.

7. Where did BG come from?

 

So many issues

 

 

 

Er, what?

 

Nowhere in my post am I saying you did that. That whole post was focusing on the case made against you by Ithi/Turin.

Thane voted you and that is where it all started, when Ithi started going after him. That is what I mean by early busing

Also, yeah, I meant to write, you believing Amega's claim. I am not saying that your belied if wrong. What I am saying is that Ithi/Turin linked your team to Amega's team at a lot of places including at the point where you believd his claim.

 

Oh, and BG = Bodyguard

[Ithillian Turambar]

BG is BG

 

Is he in this game?

 

*engage coffee break*

 

[_CLOUD]

Why are the Straw Hats still alive? The dudes are obvscum.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Well done for getting your vocab back.

[Cory Caboose]

Poverty forum

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:59 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 12:53 PM, corycurren said:

When are the reasonable people coming out to play?

Why aren't you shouting?

Nobody seems particularly interested in lynching obviscum.