[Basic] Call of Cthulhu Mafia- MAFIA VICTORY!

[Andrej]

@X - You're better served spending less time responding to individual posts directed at you only and commenting on the game and players as a whole as it develops.

 

Based on the activity around your wagon, what are your reads?

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 

the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it). 

 

@jack: your post about lynching AJ (whether a scum/towny) would tell you that X is a scum is what pings me the most. If that is what you truely believe then the best person to vote for would be X not AJ.

 

@AJ: your attempt to kind of push lily to vote for X looks more scummy then her withholding her L2 vote to give X a chance to reveal. And then you switch to vote her because she wouldnt do what you asked her to do is even scummier. 

You told lily "Why does it matter that you would put X at L-2? If you feel he is worthy of the vote then it shouldn't be an issue" in post 108. Infact thats your whole reason for going after her. Then you contradict yourself by saying " I fail to see how rushing to lynch someone on D1 is helpful or very proactive" in post 124. so which is it??

 

Vote AJ

 

1. How do you know what Des was speculating at? I'm not familiar with the theme but preaching about a SK mechanic is sort of baseless atm until we have something further to work with. I can agree that his train getting to L-2 so quickly is a bad sign though. I also don't understand what you are saying about how he defended himself. ISO his posts. He explained that he reacted in the way he did originally due to Despo voting him for something he thought was bogus.

 

2. I wasn't pushing Lily to vote X. The issue I had was that she said that she agreed that he looked scummy but didn't want to vote him since he was already at L-2. As I have explained already, this comes across to me as a move in order to stay away from a townie lynch. Think about it: if she really thought that X was scummy, what issue would she have to put him at L-1? Jack answered for her, but if the purpose was to allow him to claim he could've still done so at L-1. If the scum read was legit, then she wouldn't need to fear somebody hammering because in return that person would've taken the heat IMO. I am not contradicting myself. I don't find speed lynching someone 24 hours into a game to be a very good move for town. That said, I find Lily's reason for not voting a scum read to be bad.

 

@ AJ: k fair enough you want me to use exact quotes.... here you go again... i find this contradictory statements.... u believe getting to L2 within 24 hours is a bad sign then you use it against lily when she does the same?

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 

the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it). 

 

 

Well I don't believe that it is a trigger mechanic. When Leelou in the sign up thread asked if it was straight up basic, our mod confirmed it so. I haven't played much, but from what I have read Basic games don't have a sort of trigger mechanic. 

 

Also I suspect if you do suspect something of that sort, it isn't the C-word which you have to fear. I believe it be the whole green italic phrase should feared if something should be feared. If you do read the opening post, Prof.Armitage used the word once and Hoof himself has used. I don't believe it might trigger but if any the green one might. 

 

Speculation now doesn't play much of a role in my opinion. Again read my post. I explained I reacted the way I did because I believed Des to be voting me for something that is bogus. You can joke vote fine, but keep pushing it is something else.

 

well i have played only 2 basic games... and in the first i have already seen a SK being activated by someones death.... so i would tend to believe this could happen in basic games... k i can understand if you do not share the same opinion.

 

prof armitage and hoof using the word would not count? especially if its in the title of the theme itself? anyway this is somethign we will know soon if there was such a role in the coming nights.

[hazelkrs1]

Gonna go back through and combover everything, but quick thoughts while I was catching up on mobile during work-

 

Jack looks vurry scummy to me. Initially just for how much he seemed to be setting up lynches- by saying even if AJ flipped town, X would still look scummy (obv giving Jack someone he could immediately vote the next day). He also seemed somewhat obstinate about explaining WHY AJ made a good info lynch (spoiler alert, he doesn't- altho X does)

 

I didn't like AJ's initial FOS on Lily, her not wanting to be another bandwagon vote when there had already been so many recent ones didn't seem that big a deal to me. But he has handled pressure very well imo, and looks LOCK CLEAR to me. Would not lynch today.

 

Even tho I didn't like AJ's initial FOS on Lily, I didn't like her then hopping on the X wagon later and withholding comment on everything else. Just looks like scum trying to ditch responsibility to scumhunt. Were X to flip town she could defend her vote tomorrow and say she thought AJ was defending a teammate, that kind of noise. I know she's not the most vocal player early on, but still- there's a lot of Oh Gees in this game, and I would normally expect her to be much more comfortable talking with Jack in the game.

 

Kind of wondering if there's a Jack/Lily pairing this game, which would be kinda funny hehe.

 

However X's recent comments still don't look good to me. His initial response to my vote didn't look like he was joking or taking it lightly at all, it looked like he regarded my vote as a serious vote and seemed immediately concerned that he was being focused on. This looks like newbscum a lot more than newbtown to me. Also thinking X is scum and Jack was trying to distance from him and at the same time try to lead a different train instead.

 

As a quick aside before I Wotcraft in this Lovecraft theme- does anyone know what got Ishy so upset? Or who he was talking to in his last post? Seemed to come out of nowhere. This isn't an fos per se, just honestly perplexed by his apparent anger.

[Blackhoof]

Vote Count

 

Zanube- Xthrax (1)

Xthrax- Des, Verbal, Leelou, Lily (4)

Verbal- Wombat (1)

Lily- Andrej (1)

Andrej- Jack, Ishy, Err (3)

 

Jason- Quibby (1)

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline: None

[Quibby]

Time for joke voting has ended. Unvote Jason

 

Right now, I'm taking a careful look at X, AJ, and Lily. I think all three cases have been pounded pretty heavily, but I'm more tempted to go with either Lily or AJ on this one; I'm willing to suspend X's sentence until Day Two, as I think we would get more information out of a Lily or AJ lynch.

 

Sorry I can't do a full report at the moment. Got storms here, and I'm not sure whether the power will hold.

[Quibby]

Forgot something. Just to see what happens, Vote Lily

[hazelkrs1]

Not gonna spoiler this but I'll make it a two-parter instead of trimming some of the fat, might be a bit easier on yall's eyes too mebbe /shrug

 

Thanks. Also I do know that it was a joke vote on Day 1. All the thing started with Des's original statement about how it is bad to say Cthulhu. Getting that it was a joke, responded with joke spam in response-I asked 'you're really gonna a vote a guy trying to get good reading material'. He proceeds to respond by saying that my train is a go. Still I take that in light way and respond nope 'the train is flagged down with a red flag'.
 
After that stuff got serious. He proceeds to claim that I tried to produce a casual response after a defensive one. I cannot till now see what has been defensive 'bout that. Proceeds to call me scum and asks me to spew my supposed teammates. 
 
I don't know but I think the joke mode left him. He gives out vague reasons, to try and see if something we hit the mark. That was I assume to garner reactions, so I tell that nope it didn't but nice try. I give in that the phrasing may have been bad but still I meant the above. He then proceeds to call me scum outright subsequently.

 
Alright I'll start here. So X is now saying (in his response to Quibby) that he was joking when he initially responded to my vote, and only got serious after I kept pushing. Here's the thing tho- I don't buy that. Check it out:
 

 

So I say not to use the C word and Xthrax comes out and uses it a few posts later anyways. Obvscum.
 
Vote Xthrax

 
You'd vote a guy just trying to find good reading literature?

 

 
No part of this response looks jokey to me whatsoever. It's not strongly defensive, but it clearly looks like the reaction to a serious vote, not a joke vote like he is recently saying. I think most townies would have responded to my vote with a "Lolwtf?" or " :rolleyes:" or mebbe even "Haha Des you so funny" sort of thing. Cause really, the reasoning I was using was pretty thin. But newbscum would react instantly to a vote on them, even a cleverly disguised abritrary reasoning vote, and this is exactly what you did. Additionally:
 

 

The fact that you're scum.

 
Do you have any reason to back up a statement like that?

 

 
Again, most townies would respond with "Pffft" or something of that nature, since they KNOW they aren't scum. You don't even deny that you're scum here, you instead ask me to support an obviously facetious statement made on like the second page of a game. How much reason would I have been able to find to back that kind of statement up in ANY game by page 2? This was an overtly scummy response
 

 

Wow. I was going to land on your side here on the cheesy obvscum thing Des is doing.......but yeah, this response was bad.

Vote: Xthrax

How is that bad? What Des used was really bogus reasoning and all I did was point that. And is that all your reason to vote?

 

 
Overtly whyme fryme post, and more defensiveness about someone voting you.
 

Look at it from my view. I was accused and voted for saying Cthulhu. And that came by because I wanted to know the name of a book? What sort of reasoning is that. Tjat coupled with a vote in my opinion is something that should be called out for.

 
 This supports the fact that you weren't joking in your initial response to my vote- you are here trying to say you were legitimately trying to call out bad reasoning, not joking back with someone like you said recently.
 

I think both Xthrax and Des are arguing just to hide the fact that both of them are scum.

 
This just came out of nowhere btw and is really bad.... but it's coming from fresh meat. I think this is his only post in the game so far tho. Needs to step it up.
 

 

Why don't you take another person's viewpoint?

 
no

 

 
There were I'm sure much better examples, but posts like this give me a town lean on Leelou so far. She has really good tone in her posts, is straightforward and clear in her stance and her thinking.
 

 

You'd vote a guy just trying to find good reading literature?

Joke spam noted. Post seems off

Dap, your posts are long. I'll be skimming most of the game. Anything you'd specifically like me to read color it :)

 

 
This post STRONGLY supports my theory about Jack being scum with X. He says that X's reaction to my vote seems like joke spam...... WUT????? Doesn't look like joke spam at all to me, and that was the whole point of me saying he failed the reaction test.
 
Also he was talkin about me, not Dap in the second part, so to you Jack I'll say this- Ignore my wot's at your own risk, especially considering I find you scummy so far 
 
And colors def aren't my thing. If in the future there is something in particular I want YOU to address or respond to, I'll emphasize it for you.
 

 

vote X

No attempt at even a joke vote reasoning. Chalking it up to day 1 lolz.

Noted however for later game play.

 

 
This is interesting considering Jack later comes back to go after AJ. Could have been him lying the foundation for someone to switch to with this post
 

@X I've explained it as far as I'm willing to at this current juncture.

 
Only reason I'm quoting this is because Jack says this kind of thing twice- he says the same kind of thing later to AJ. In this case however, Jack really does drop the matter and stops responding to X. I'll cover the AJ one later
 

This is probably going to be the only bit of kindness that I will express through the whole game...

X, everybody is gunning for you because of how you reacted to the whole Cthulhu name-drop thing. It was a joke vote on Page 1. The fact that you've been responding to it in an effort to defend yourself is what's setting off everybody's scumdar, including mine. However, it is now far too late to really correct that, so you'd better start praying to Cthulhu, Yog-Sothoth, Azathoth, Nyarlahotep, Hastur, or whatever other Lovecraftian deity you choose that somebody else puts their foot in it.

Or you can just say Hastur's name three times and be consumed.

 
Altho it can easily be said that Quibby is defending X here, and I obv find X to be scummy, I thought this post seemed a lot more townie than anything. Mostly a tone/gut read tho so take that with a grain of salt.
 

I'd also vote X but he's at L-2 now, so I'd like to hear what he has to say.

 
Here's what I don't like about this as opposed to the point AJ made about Lily: Xthrax didn't get voted for something right after he left the thread for a while, he had consistently been trying (and failing) to defend himself. Lily doesn't say she wants to wait for a claim, she says she wants to wait to hear what he has to say... This just looks like scum trying to stall a lynch if anything.
 

 

RoadPuketrip!

 
LOL...laughing might be hazardous to my health right now.

 

 
I made Verbal laugh in a mafia game! All of my life goals are now complete!
 

 
Alas, except for shaving and then wrestling a gorilla. More and more tho, I'm starting to think that might not be a realistic life goal.
 

 

This is also a perfect place to stop until the second part ( )

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

@Lily - Why does it matter that you would put X at L-2? If you feel he is worthy of the vote then it shouldn't be an issue.

Gives him chance to reveal. Don't wanna accidentally take out the doc or cop

 

 
Why do you answer for Lily here Jack? (will emphasize this for you later cause I'm a pal   )
 

Actually, he was already at L-2 but that doesn't really matter. Putting him at L-1 still gives him time to reveal, and whoever speed hammers prior to him being able to is obviously going to take a serious lashing for it.

 
Prob with this is that it could have also been someone that accidentally ninjahammered, or derptown not realizing he was at L-1 or something... I don't think hesitating to put someone at L-1 early in a game is really that scummy at all, and apparently you don't either according to your reasoning about speedlynches. I like your gusto with the matter, just don't agree with the reasoning you show here.
 

L-2 is standard policy usually

You look more scummy then lily

If you wait for a deadline mafia wins. Everytime. You have to be proactive. It's not fun for mods to set a deadline cause you should be actively playing and scum hunting.

Unvote and Vote Andrej

If your mafia then X is probably also. If your town x still looks as scummy as he did in the first place. Information lunches ftw

 
So here's where Jack votes AJ. It could easily be seen as opportunistic considering that X was at L-2 for a bit while Jack was active, yet he hadn't really made his stance very clear on him, yet after a couple of people (Wombat and Leelou) fos AJ, Jack suddenly votes him. Excellent timing if you're X's scumbuddy and you want to derail the train on him.
 
Last line also links AJ and X, and while the reasoning isn't flawed per se- why did it seem like Jack never had any intention of voting X, but happily votes AJ after others look his way?
 

 

X train is weaksauce. Going after the new guy for lulz and then watching him flounder (shocking in a new player amirite   ) is lame.

That being said, what is even dirtier is the White Knight swooping in to save him.

Vote AJ.

5 games isn't new. But yeah ^^

 

 
Def don't like how Jack agrees with Ishy pretty much in this post... even tho he later reaffirms his stance on X being scummy. Looks like a possible buddying attempt to me.
 
If Jack is scum I doubt Ishy is.
 

Does X look bad for his reaction initially? Sure. Does that mean he is really scum? Maybe. But couple with how quickly his wagon has gained speed with the current phase we are in and it makes me leery. I am aware of the stigma that is created by my action and I accept that. If I'm wrong about X or Lily then I am wrong, but in the end I will absolve myself through my play.

 
This paragraph was a big reason why I started to read AJ as town. He accepts that he linked himself to X, but doesn't waver in his stance and says if he is wrong he will have to prove his alignment by play. STRONG town tone read from that excerpt.
 

Couple all that with your vote with no explanation before X started squirming and the fact you peeled it off with weak reasoning that's best I have. Any more questions on the matter will be addressed with the following two characters :)

 
Okay so here's where Jack tells AJ he is pretty much dropping the issue... yet he doesn't. Immediately responds when AJ does.
 

Hammer is rarely looked at as hard as the person placing him in hammer range. In my experience

 
Why does he drop it with X but get back into it again with AJ?
 

I'll be gone for 6 hours from now. I'll have extra classes followed by a trip out, so I don't think I'll  be here if I am at L-1 or L-2. So-
 
Claim:Vanilla Town

 
So this is one of the two things giving me slight pause in my read on X: Claiming vanilla at L-2 or w/e isn't a great way to clear heat off of yourself as scum. Tbh tho my thinking is that scum are more resigned to giving X up now, so didn't let him doc claim or anything, and are instead trying to link him and AJ as much as possible to try and get a mislynch coupled with their teammate's.
 

I agree that AJ swooping in to save X is scummy, but I want to know what he was trying to protect. 
 
Unvote
Vote X

 
^^^ And this helps support that theory. Lily doesn't respond to anything AJ brought up about her even tho she has no problem strengthening the link between the two, and she also doesn't mention ANY of X's recent posts and how they appeared to her, nor does she comment on anything else at all really. Her lack of gameplay so far worries me considering Jack is in the game.
 

I am happy with lynching either. X or Andrej

Just let me know. Ill hammer X or keep my vote where is

 
Funny how you're now volunteering to hammer X after earlier establishing in the thread how the hammer is less likely to be a scum vote and less likely to be analyzed.
 

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 
the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it).

 

ALOT wrong with this paragraph.

 

1. Don't buddy/link yourself to me. "the fact that he and also I believed..."

2. I was pulling whatever arbitrary reasoning I could pull out of my arse at the time to start getting the game into SRS mode asap. This is a basic game. I didn't honestly think there would def be triggers or anything. Obv there could be, but me talking about that stuff was straight puffery designed for reactions.

3. Cthulhu doesn't really fit as a SK themewise btw. Oh he kills a plenty, the point of him tho is that he awakens from his slumber to come and take over the world and enslave everyone, not kill everyone. There are other candidates for third party, but eh that's setup spec that isn't important atm.

4. "Overdefensive" - buzzword alert

5. Bizarro reasoning for not voting him. If you're thoroughly convinced there could be some kind of trigger, the trigger doesn't HAVE to just make a SK, dunno where you're getting that from. I and no one else said anything like that. The trigger (if there is one) could set off something good for the scumteam. So yeah, bizarro reasoning.

 

Sadly, I'm actually thinking you're more likely to be town. You could be playing up your inexperience by hiding behind the trigger discussion, but atm you seem more like derptown using mechanics from another game (The Walking Dead game) to make you think something similar will happen in this one. You are wrong, but you seem to believe what you're saying. That being said, if X were to flip town, you'd be one of those I'd suspect slightly more.

 

TL,DR conclusions coming next post.

 

[hazelkrs1]

Here's how I would group up the players so far-

 

Town/Would not lynch today:

 

Err - Weakest of my town reads most likely. Seems like he believes his tinfoil theory about triggers tho

Quibby - Town read based on tone. Just saw his recent vote on Lily, no problem with that lol

Leelou - Straightforward, doesn't quibble in her stances, and I can see how she'd find AJ scummy even tho I don't agree

Verbal - Could have easily just bandwagoned onto X, instead points out his own reasoning for why X looks so scummy, looks good to me

AJ - Handled pressure well, and doesn't waver when announcing that he realizes he linked himself to X. Strong town tone in that post and others. Also willing to go against the grain instead of blending in with others, which is obv more likely to come from town

 

Need to see more from:

 

Ishy - Don't agree that everyone is voting a newbie for lulz or that he only looks scummy cause he's new. Don't have much else from him tho and his last post seemed bizarre for him, looked like a ragequit post or something

Zanube - one post I think, which was bad.

 

Scum/More than happy to lynch today:

 

Xthrax - Other stuff has already been pointed out, but him recently saying he was joking in his initial response to me looks like total BS cooked up in a QT.

Jack - Prob the one who cooked that up for X, before X said what he did in response to Quibby Jack quoted X's response to me and said it was joke spam... even tho it wasn't. Also think his vote on AJ is opportunistic, and him saying AJ is a better info lynch, or a better lynch at all for that matter, than Xthrax is absurd.

Lily - Not commenting on much, and put out a "I don't wanna rush things, let's hear from him first" post which could have either been scum trying to stall a teammate's lynch, or scum trying to get towncred by preaching caution (this is something Lily often does as scum). Also think she'd be posting more and more relaxed with all these old-timers in the game.

Wombat - yucky vote on Verbal, he isn't waffling on it but also isn't doing much active scumhunting, which isn't a good sign for Wombat.

 

Feel pretty good about these reads. Obv am leaving my vote on Xthrax today, there's no risk of losing a town PR and his flip can potentially give town a wealth of information since so many have reacted to his lynch or commented on him.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

 

@Lily - Why does it matter that you would put X at L-2? If you feel he is worthy of the vote then it shouldn't be an issue.

Gives him chance to reveal. Don't wanna accidentally take out the doc or cop

 

 

Why do you answer for Lily here Jack? (will emphasize this for you later cause I'm a pal   )

 

Emphasized as promise because (joker voice) I'm a man of my word

 

[Leelou]

 

 

 

I must've missed it. What exactly do you learn from AJ's flip?

AJ flips scum that means X is scum as he pealed of a vote from X making him L-3 which is just slowing the train. And AJ pealed said vote off with shoddy reasoning and a weak case.

 

However if he flips town. X is still looking scummy from his floundering with very little pressure.

Wouldn't it be better to lynch X in this situation?

At this place and time I am 100% okay with either candidate.

 

Sure you are. /sarcasm

 

Because you are neglecting to think that I could be scum WKing X as Ishy just pointed out.

 

You are basically making a lose-lose situation for X, which I find very bad.

Yes he is, he's convicted that X is scum, but is throwing you in the mix regardless of your flip. 

 

However that leaves you with. A wifom if you lynch X first.

 

Did AJ try and stop the train cause he knew he was town so he could come of looking better?

 

Eliminating AJ now cuts through the Wifom

No, you are linking lynches together. You think X is scum regardless of AJ's flip, so I don't see how you would gain any further info on X from AJ. You are coming off far more scummy than AJ is right now. 

 

 

 

Who's the chick Ishy?

Whaddya mean? It's me. I'm a hot chick.

 

I thought it was Ygritte. 

 

I agree that AJ swooping in to save X is scummy, but I want to know what he was trying to protect. 

 

Unvote

Vote X

Lily, you always ask what makes you scummy, it's posts like this. You've ignored to comment on anything else in the game, specifically why AJ changed his vote to begin with. 

 

@X: the reason that des originally for mentioning the C word (used 3 time so far by you and once by Quibby). It had to do with the fact that he and also i believed that it might be a trigger word to activate something worst like a SK (which is in line with the theme of the game). All your defense does not mention this fact that may be u just didnt think it was a trigger word instead it comes out as over defensive. These are pretty much what makes u look scummy (a lot). 

the only reason that i am not voting for you at this moment is that if you were a scum u wouldnt like to activate a other killer on the loose and also because you got 5 votes building up on you within 24 hours of the game being started (even tough you were kind of asking for it). 

 

@jack: your post about lynching AJ (whether a scum/towny) would tell you that X is a scum is what pings me the most. If that is what you truely believe then the best person to vote for would be X not AJ.

 

@AJ: your attempt to kind of push lily to vote for X looks more scummy then her withholding her L2 vote to give X a chance to reveal. And then you switch to vote her because she wouldnt do what you asked her to do is even scummier. 

You told lily "Why does it matter that you would put X at L-2? If you feel he is worthy of the vote then it shouldn't be an issue" in post 108. Infact thats your whole reason for going after her. Then you contradict yourself by saying " I fail to see how rushing to lynch someone on D1 is helpful or very proactive" in post 124. so which is it??

 

Vote AJ

How do you know what Des was thinking? No one ever really does. 

 

 

Also, comment on X - he's not scum hunting, but being uber defensive. 

[hazelkrs1]

#MINDMELD

[Blackhoof]

Vote Count

 

Zanube- Xthrax (1)

Xthrax- Des, Verbal, Leelou, Lily (4)

Verbal- Wombat (1)

Lily- Andrej, Quibby (2)

Andrej- Jack, Ishy, Err (3)

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline: None

[hazelkrs1]

Only one not voting is Zanube. If he doesn't post a good bit more today, I'd prob be open to policy lynching him tomorrow.

[Xthrax]

 

Not gonna spoiler this but I'll make it a two-parter instead of trimming some of the fat, might be a bit easier on yall's eyes too mebbe /shrug

 

Thanks. Also I do know that it was a joke vote on Day 1. All the thing started with Des's original statement about how it is bad to say Cthulhu. Getting that it was a joke, responded with joke spam in response-I asked 'you're really gonna a vote a guy trying to get good reading material'. He proceeds to respond by saying that my train is a go. Still I take that in light way and respond nope 'the train is flagged down with a red flag'.
 
After that stuff got serious. He proceeds to claim that I tried to produce a casual response after a defensive one. I cannot till now see what has been defensive 'bout that. Proceeds to call me scum and asks me to spew my supposed teammates. 
 
I don't know but I think the joke mode left him. He gives out vague reasons, to try and see if something we hit the mark. That was I assume to garner reactions, so I tell that nope it didn't but nice try. I give in that the phrasing may have been bad but still I meant the above. He then proceeds to call me scum outright subsequently.

 
Alright I'll start here. So X is now saying (in his response to Quibby) that he was joking when he initially responded to my vote, and only got serious after I kept pushing. Here's the thing tho- I don't buy that. Check it out:
 

 

So I say not to use the C word and Xthrax comes out and uses it a few posts later anyways. Obvscum.
 
Vote Xthrax

 
You'd vote a guy just trying to find good reading literature?

 

 
No part of this response looks jokey to me whatsoever. It's not strongly defensive, but it clearly looks like the reaction to a serious vote, not a joke vote like he is recently saying. I think most townies would have responded to my vote with a "Lolwtf?" or " :rolleyes:" or mebbe even "Haha Des you so funny" sort of thing. Cause really, the reasoning I was using was pretty thin. But newbscum would react instantly to a vote on them, even a cleverly disguised abritrary reasoning vote, and this is exactly what you did. Additionally:
 

 

The fact that you're scum.

 
Do you have any reason to back up a statement like that?

 

 
Again, most townies would respond with "Pffft" or something of that nature, since they KNOW they aren't scum. You don't even deny that you're scum here, you instead ask me to support an obviously facetious statement made on like the second page of a game. How much reason would I have been able to find to back that kind of statement up in ANY game by page 2? This was an overtly scummy response
 

 

Wow. I was going to land on your side here on the cheesy obvscum thing Des is doing.......but yeah, this response was bad.

Vote: Xthrax

How is that bad? What Des used was really bogus reasoning and all I did was point that. And is that all your reason to vote?

 

 
Overtly whyme fryme post, and more defensiveness about someone voting you.
 

Look at it from my view. I was accused and voted for saying Cthulhu. And that came by because I wanted to know the name of a book? What sort of reasoning is that. Tjat coupled with a vote in my opinion is something that should be called out for.

 
 This supports the fact that you weren't joking in your initial response to my vote- you are here trying to say you were legitimately trying to call out bad reasoning, not joking back with someone like you said recently.

 

Bold-How does 'you'd vote a guy for trying to find a good reading literature' come across as a serious response? It is clearly sarcasm. If I would have been defensive, I would have started pointing out hove its really a bad premise to start. 

 

Also do note the comment below

 

 

 

The OP seems awesome, though don't know if I'll be able to find a book. Is it called Call of Cthulhu? I'll mostly read about it online.

 

 

So I say not to use the C word and Xthrax comes out and uses it a few posts later anyways. Obvscum.

 

Vote Xthrax

 

 

You'd vote a guy just trying to find good reading literature? 

 

 

Reaction tes FAILED. Looks like you're scum after all.

 

Xthrax train is a GO.

 

Nope, there's a red flag. The train is flagged down

 

 

I'm still treating as a joke here, mentioning how the train is flagged down. What is going on is clear misconstruing of what I said.

 

Italics-Again you have omitted quite a lot here. That sentence came about as a result of you saying this

 

 

 

 

The OP seems awesome, though don't know if I'll be able to find a book. Is it called Call of Cthulhu? I'll mostly read about it online.

 

 

So I say not to use the C word and Xthrax comes out and uses it a few posts later anyways. Obvscum.

 

Vote Xthrax

 

 

You'd vote a guy just trying to find good reading literature? 

 

 

Reaction tes FAILED. Looks like you're scum after all.

 

Xthrax train is a GO.

 

Nope, there's a red flag. The train is flagged down

 

 

Hahaahhahahaha-NO.

 

Attempt to force casual response after being caught with defensive one denied. You are teh scum.

 

Feel like spewing your teammates just for the heck of it?

 

 

You tell us that it was a joke vote at the beginning of day 1. According to your post, you say that I'm attempting to force a casual response. If it was joke vote wouldn't a casual/jokey response be apt. You wanted me to joke around and here I have done. After all that joking, you kept pushing I'm scum using a very bogus reasoning and an outright claim that I am one. So asked if you really have anything to go on this.

 

You are right this is Day 1, 2nd page. So you should have left it at the jokes.

 

Underlined-Do notice, how it was initially all a joke continued in my posts too. But you changed from jokey mode and kept on blindly pushing the case. I pointed out that it was a bad case after you started pushing it hard. You say that you were joking, you should have continued to do so.

[Leelou]

^^ Again, just defending, no scum hunting. 

[Sedai]

@Desp I answered cause I knew the answer. Mas did Leelou and probably a few others that play in JN

 

@Leelou your twisting what I said, I said, X looks scummy. I'm not positive on his scumness, but his squirming with little pressure is usually a good indicator.

 

I then said, X looks scummy for taking his vote off and voting lily with suckish reasoning. So if AJ is scum it makes me positive on X. And if AJ is town X still carries the initial scumminess he started with.

 

@X you claimed vanilla townie, and didn't character claim. I dislike half reveals, and you claimed the easiest role to hide behind.

 

@Err it's a basic game. No triggers, stop mudding game play.

 

And I am 100% okay with either target. Both have been the most scummy at this time.

[Blackhoof]

For the record, character claiming is against the rules.

[hazelkrs1]

^^ Again, just defending, no scum hunting.

 

Yup, pretty much.

 

@Desp I answered cause I knew the answer. Mas did Leelou and probably a few others that play in JN

 

 

You can read minds?

 

Seriously tho. She made no mention of him claiming. Yet you responded assuredly FOR her that that's exactly why she was doing something. I know yall are close... but seriously answering for someone else just invites conversations like these.

 

 

@Leelou your twisting what I said, I said, X looks scummy. I'm not positive on his scumness, but his squirming with little pressure is usually a good indicator.

 

I then said, X (he meant AJ I believe, but I'm not sure cause he's not Lily and I'm not Jack ) looks scummy for taking his vote off and voting lily with suckish reasoning. So if AJ is scum it makes me positive on X. And if AJ is town X still carries the initial scumminess he started with.

 

Italics is my edit.

 

Are you deliberately ignoring what several people have brought up about this situation? That AJ AS SCUM could have been White Knighting (ie rushing to someone's defense) Xthrax AS TOWN. AJ flipping scum does NOT guarantee X to be scum as well. Obv I believe X to be scum, but his alignment really isn't dependant on AJ's whatsoever. You even say so yourself in slightly diff words.

 

Everyone is right, according to everything you've said about this matter, you should have been voting X, not AJ

 

@X you claimed vanilla townie, and didn't character claim. I dislike half reveals, and you claimed the easiest role to hide behind.

 

You serious dude?

 

6. You may reveal your role but not your character or any flavour text I have given out in your Role PM

 

Gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and not suggest you were trying to get him modkilled, but yeah man fishing for a character here is just absurd. I don't think X claimed VT to "hide behind". I think you're just acting all hardcore about this point as some last ditch distancing attempt.

 

And I am 100% okay with either target. Both have been the most scummy at this time.

 

[hazelkrs1]

For the record, character claiming is against the rules.

 

mod

[Zanube]

Only one not voting is Zanube. If he doesn't post a good bit more today, I'd prob be open to policy lynching him tomorrow.

My Internet crashed today that was why I wasn't posting anything. Secondly,I'm a girl not a guy.

 

 

 

The fact that you're scum.

 

 

 

I think both Xthrax and Des are arguing just to hide the fact that both of them are scum.

 

 

This just came out of nowhere btw and is really bad.... but it's coming from fresh meat. I think this is his only post in the game so far tho. Needs to step it up.

 

 

Any person can say a comment in this game. It is a free site.This is just my opinion.I am also not ready to vote and it is not necessary to vote when others have voted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

That's the first time I've seen a tons of spaces at the end and no tongue in cheek remark after em. Weird.

 

First off Zanube, sorry about mistaking your gender. I can relate hehe.

 

Second, of course you can make any comment you want. You didn't say anything to back up what you said however, or WHY you thought both of us could be scum. It was about as empty a comment you could have made there. It was also your only post of the game, so nothing else to judge you on makes it kinda tough.

 

You DID make a commitment to the other players in the game as well as the mod by the way when you signed up fyi. If you don't participate there's no way for others to decide what your alignment could be. I'm sorry to hear about your internet crashing, but no one else knew about that. Now that you're here though, can you give us any other thoughts about stuff that's happened on thread?

[Xthrax]

Well a lot of activity has been going around me so here are my reads.

 

1:Err-His game posts I believe started out with telling me thaat the reason might have been because the word I used might be a trigger to release something like an SK. Well I'm not sure that will happen but each to his own. The 4 basic games I played so far didn't have something so, but he says that his first game had it. So that might be the reason why he believes so. His post with Jack telling that if Jack found me scummy he should vote me seems ok. 

 

I find Err as a town read albeit a strong one. He seems to believe what he posted, so yeah seems ok.

 

2:Ishy-In relation to gameplay he hasn't posted much. He says that the train on me is weak since it lame to watch the new guy flounder after going for him. He votes for AJ cause AJ defending me seems dirtier. There isn't really much to go on-so hes null.

3:Jack-The first post he had with AJ was when AJ said that there is no need to lynch without DL. I agree with Jack's stance on this-at deadline the mafia can just pile on lynching a townie because they can always claim as consolidating at deadline. On their later discussion, I'm kinda stuck 2 ways. Like AJ said, putting a person on L-1 also could give them time to claim and if you believe in it you could always put him at L-1. On the other hand if someone is at L-1 but don't get on, scum could easily see as easy kill. But you could take it this way, if scum had tried an early bussing tactic and then tried to take of the heat of their teammate, this could be a way to go about. The rest of it is in reply to AJ. From the overall feeling from his posts, he comes across as town, my views don't exactly match but he has made a good response.

4:Lily-She initially stepped of my train saying that she wants to hear what I say and would like make of what my claim would be. Aj questioned her about this but she didn't respond to any of it. After my reasoning and claim, she proceeds to vote saying that she wants to know what AJ was trying to protect. 

 

Lily what is your opinion of what I said and the rest of the game? You could have chosen to talk about the game but did not at any point-makes me feel suspicious. Also a claim can be done by putting someone at L-1. I agree that they may be hammered quickly without giving them a chance. Anyway, I'd like to hear more from you.
5:Quibby-I'd like to see more from you Quibby. I understand what you put across on how I came on everyone's scum radar. One thing you brought up though, why do you think that we'll get more info from a Lily lynch? Basically null
 

[Quibby]

On Euro time, so it's kind of hard for me to participate at the same time as the majority of people in the game.  I'll do my best to be as active as possible, though.

 

My reasoning behind the Lily vote is to see what she does.  She's pinging me as scum-like, and I'll go further into that once I get home.  I'm currently posting from work, which is kind of a no-no.