[Basic] Christmas Mentors & Maffia

[Krakalakachkn]

I doubt you'll achieve satisfaction with Peace.

[elffern]

I'm not even sure what to do with that and still be pg13

[csarmi]

Sing Roling stones maybe?

 

I can't get no

Satisfaction

[elffern]

Nah, Otis Reading version all the way

[Nolder]

I think we need to hear from some more people.

Obviously not expecting it today but tomorrow or the next day would be nice.

 

Dan in particular. I can't remember seeing a post from them.

[Krakalakachkn]

I told him to get his ass on here and play but it might be later today or tomorrow.

 

 

 

Oh, and ##Cloud

[Krakalakachkn]

Damn, forgot I already did that.

 

 

 

Hey guys, remember when someone posting three times in a row was a scum tell?

 

 

hashtagGoodTimes

[elffern]

I think we need to hear from some more people.

Obviously not expecting it today but tomorrow or the next day would be nice.

 

Dan in particular. I can't remember seeing a post from them.

There's only been one merry Christmas post from Halle and nothing from Theo I'm day one, it would also be nice to hear something more substantial from golden.

[csarmi]

VoteCount Day01#05

 

 

 

BFG: -> Golden

Leelou: -> Nolder

Cloud: -> Elf

Peace: -> Elf

Tommy: -> Peace -> Turin

Elf: -> Peace

Turin: -> Tommy

Krak: -> Cloud

 

 

 

Elf - 2 - Cloud, Peace

Nolder - 1- Leelou

Peace - 1 - Elf

Golden - 1 - BFG

Turin - 1 - Tommy

Tommy - 1 - Turin

Cloud - 1 - Krak

 

Not voting: the rest of you

8 to lynch. No DL set.

 

 

Please note that only votes starting with ##vote are accepted. Cause I can't search the topic for "##" (less than 3 characters).

[csarmi]

mod goes to sleep

cya around tomorrow

[peacesells]

What other questions Elfie?

 

 

And yes...too many not posting yet. 

[elffern]

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86578-basic-christmas-mentors-maffia/page-13?do=findComment&comment=3116932

[Krakalakachkn]

What exactly does a bear do in the woods?

[elffern]

"are bears catholic?, does the pope poop in the woods" or something like that.

[peacesells]

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86578-basic-christmas-mentors-maffia/page-13?do=findComment&comment=3116932

 

Yes. It's what everyone in the game does.  Extrapolate.

[elffern]

Ok, so then my vote is staying on you. That extrapolation Is based on information from after you voted. You just said it was the reason you voted.

 

Hence you are a lying liar that lies.

 

Also you have yet to answer my question as to why you actually* voted, and yet I've asked 3 times now.

 

 

*What I asked

 

Why is it necessary to regurgitate Cloud's reasons?

This is the closest you came to actually saying why. Do you agree with everything cloud said? Or just something's? And why do you believe them?

 

Also that is replying to a question with a question rather any actual confirmation of why.

[Nolder]

I agree with the second part of your post but I don't think there's any need to keep hammering it in.

He voted and gave no reason, we pointed that out and asked for a reason, he came back with what amounts to a refusal.

There's nothing more to be gained from following up on that.

[elffern]

He said the reason for voting was for the extrapolated bit. But that is all from stuff that happened after he voted, that not a refusal, it's an all out lie

[elffern]

And anyone who is town shouldn't have to lie

[peacesells]

I said I extrapolated with my original vote.  With the given information.  Where did I say I did so with later info?

[peacesells]

And anyone who is town shouldn't have to lie

 

 

I'm not lying but this statement is wrong in many many circumstances.  I've lied often as town. 

[_CLOUD]

Hmm alright Effie, you have convinced me. You can be town. Nolder also looks more reasonable in this game than I initially thought him to be.

 

 

Actively engaging in scum hunting requires a certain degree of defending of other players, or rather of calling out a play that inadvertently defends their attacker.  I understand how a lot of people read that as a scum tell, yet I have many a time have called out a player's bullshit only to have someone accuse me of defending that player's target.
 
Did I put that right?  I think I did.  Defending is sometimes necessary only if it isn't a defensive tunneling.  Then it's scummy.  Or you're a cop with a viewing.

 
I actually agree with Krak on this.

 

 

 

Also what tommyrod said peace, explanation?

 
And also notice how she is trying to shift the attention towards to Peace who voted for her after it was already explained that his lack of reasoning isn't anything out of the ordinary. Her prod towards Peace and her later vote on him means means that she is afraid of OMGUSing me. A townie would be less self-conscious about her votes than she has been thus far.

 

 
I'll remember this later when you ask someone to explain a vote on you.

 

 
I wasn't generalizing. Peace's vote on Effie after my case on her made it clear to me that he agreed with my reasoning, and while Effie was attacking Peace because he didn't explain his vote on her obviously enough she never openly stated that she found me scummy. This seemed to me like she was afraid to accuse me, and instead decided to go after Peace.

 

I also don't like how you're making Elf out to be the center of attention.  
As if asking MetaWorld Peace for a reason on voting her is unreasonable.
 

 

And also notice how she is trying to shift the attention towards to Peace who voted for her after it was already explained that his lack of reasoning isn't anything out of the ordinary.

 
Wut?
 
 
Dude, you've essentially been advocating that Elf stop playing mafia.  If she can't question reads, votes, and make up her own mind, what do you expect from her?

 

 

1. I was going after her because I found her play to be scummy. If you are actually trying to blame me for scumhunting and putting someone under the spotlight while questioning her play then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

 

2. I never said that she can't question reads, votes and make up her own mind. I however expected that she would drop that part of her case on Peace after it was explained by multiple people that it's all part of his meta, and thus nothing out of the ordinary for him.

 

And anyone who is town shouldn't have to lie

 

Heh. You would be surprised.

 

 

##Unvote Effie, Vote Turin.

[_CLOUD]

What is the case on Peace again?

[elffern]

uh yeah I suppose that might be true I maybe got a little carried away (loooots of wine ^^^)

[_CLOUD]

Well, that's it for me for today. Could you do me a favor though and summarize in a couple sentences why you are suspicious of Peace, Effie? Have fun playing Drunk Mafia! See you guys tomorrow.