Daps Basic Mafia - GAME OVER, Mafia Wins!

[Kaylee]

 

 

I know I'm town, I believe Mish is town. That would mean for MCS to be town and Len would likely be scum. That leaves Pral, Gen and Tink. I haven't been getting a town vibe from Tink.

 

Of course there could be a 3rd party, but for now I'm focusing on finding scum. I'm off to work, but for now I'm happy with my vote.

Now wait a minute here. Why do I have to be likely scum and MCS town? Is there some information here you have that we dont know or are you just drawing lines to try and incriminate me?

 

As for Tiink still good with lynching him.

Skim much? This was the second scenario. I said I was unsure of you. I was saying for MCS to be town who that leaves as possible scum based on my reads thus far.

[Kaylee]

Wow... if that isn't a cop out hammer vote, along with your reasoning to seal the nail in my coffin, I don't know what it is. You're "intrigued"? You are really starting to sound like David now. And you don't THINK I'm scum? That's a day one vote, and this is day three. At this pointin the game you should be placing your vote on people who you believe to be mafia.

 

Vote Tiinker

I agree with the bold. As Gen pointed out there was no reason to rush hammer, especially on someone you don't think is mafia. This only furthers my suspicions on Tink.

[dapianoplay3r]

official vote count

 

Mcs (5) - Krak, Len, Mish, Kaylee, Tiinker

Len (1) - Pral

 

Lynch!

 

Not voting;

MCS, Gen

Deadline

[dapianoplay3r]

MCS - Vanilla Town, has been Lynched

 

It is now night. You have 24 hours to get all actions in

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130830T11&p0=22

[Kaylee]

Sorry to see we were wrong. I really thought he was scum. I'm going to look back at David's interactions again to see if I notice anything. Also, I'll be looking at pretty much everyone to see if anything stands out to me.

[mcs0083]

I won't lie, I'm kind of disappointed in my fellow townies, but no hard feelings, Make it up to me by winning the game lol Go Town!

[Kaylee]

I'm most suspicious of Leno and Tink. I plan on casing them come day phase. (I will have computer access again starting tomorrow.)

[Kaylee]

Where is everyone?

[Kaylee]

Kaylee looked around, suspicious of the sudden quiet. Surely trouble was afoot and she planned on getting to the bottom of it.

 

*nod*

[Kaylee]

Kaylee looked around, suspicious of the sudden quiet. Surely trouble was afoot and she planned on getting to the bottom of it.

 

*nod*

Fixed it

[Kaylee]

Sorry I'm at lunch and bored

[Pralaya]

Am here. Waiting for the night to end and renew my suspicions 

[Kaylee]

Yeah I'm not alone! Lol How's it going?

[Pralaya]

Pretty late at night here. Newborn daughter might wake up anytime now, lol

[Kaylee]

Ah, aren't they precious? I have to get back to work now. I know my daughter is my greatest treasure. Have a good night!

[Lenlo]

Im reading an introduction to the bible text! 

 

Tea is the only thing keeping me going through it.

[dapianoplay3r]

Day has broken and

Gen - Vanilla Town, has been NKed

 

Deadline

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

[Kaylee]

Ok cases incoming...

[Kaylee]

Leno:

 

 

I would have imagined there being more meaningful posts by now. Anyway, it has never been my style to lurk. I think the most suspicious of the lot is Pralaya, but having said that, Lenlo was the first to mention that Pralaya was "classic public mafia", which I don't really get. What's a public mafia?

Anyway, it's probably still too soon to be reading anything into this.

Uhhhh... what? Are you talking about this?

 

 

/begin nerdiness

10 PRINT "Hello game"
140 END


Go BASIC!

/end nerdiness

public class mafia

{

     public static void main(String[] args)

     {

           System.out.println("Boooooo basic. Go go Java.");
     }

}

 

Dude. Thats Java. Its my response to his BASIC ((Booooooo Basic. Java is better.))

 

Im really not sure if you just have no idea what java is, are trying to make a poor joke or are trying to turn this into something.

 

He responds to David. Not really much to learn from at this point.

 

 

 

Right, I knew what Java was, but I've never heard of Basic. Just assumed pralaya meant "go basic mafia game" since we are in a basic game.

 

This is why I don't particularly like these joke posts.

Alright well just to make sure your clear on this Basic is also a programming language. 

 

He again explains it with a smilie. (May not be anything, but his meta is to over-explain when he's scum).

 

 

I cant remember has everyone checked in or no?

 

((Even though its only page 4 and I should probably know or not.))

Again with the over-explaining (the bold).

 

There really is next to nothing to gone so far, but Pral has some good notions in there imo.

 

Vote David

 

Im gonna go with him for D1 and once we get some things from that ((Or more actual game related posts to look at)) I think we can really get going.

The bold stood out to me as possible distancing. Why feel the need to add that part? A pressure vote loses it's power when it's explained as such. (As I recently found out in another game  ) 

 

 

 

Ah Tiink, but sometimes there's good reason to my madness... as you can see, you noticed my vote doesn't hold water very well... but... I find it interesting that while you chose to confront me on it, Peace ignored my comment. Easiest way to avoid pressure is to ignore it.

Its also the best way to deal with baseless crap that uses little logic in its argument for you to fight against.

 

I found this interesting as his vote was just for pressure, yet BG needs a vote that "uses logic", on D1 no less? What then is the logic behind a pressure vote that was clearly stated as such?

 

 

 

 

There really is next to nothing to gone so far, but Pral has some good notions in there imo.

 

Vote David

 

Im gonna go with him for D1 and once we get some things from that ((Or more actual game related posts to look at)) I think we can really get going.

 

This is my rhyme

This is my reason

Get on up

It's Lenlo season.

 

 

unvote, vote Lenlo

 

Your rhymes are fun.

 

And BG if you give a good reason for voting him that actually uses some logic then id be fine with it. As it stands im not so much defending Peace as calling you out on your crap.

 

Comments on Krak's rhymes. So using a quote and a rhyme as a reason is ok but not what BG did? Explain how there is "logic" in his reasoning for his vote please. What's that, there isn't any? Nice contradicting yourself though.

Blue: Really? In the same post you again call out BG for lack of logic in voting? Hmmm...buddying up to Peace is what this appears like to me.

 

 

 

Lenlo was obviously defending me against BG.  How could that be interpreted otherwise.

 

 

Darthe is town.

Lenlo is scum.

Yup 100%. Cause only scum would call someone out on their BS in a way that even remotely looks like defending a town player. 

 

They would also never say something like the above either right?

 

 

Alright im all moved in and caught up. Was much faster than I thought.

 

I dont really know much of the MCS case so im just voting for consolidation to not go random.

 

Vote MCS

Votes to consolidate. No problem with that as at least we would've had a lynch.

 

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

This game started 4 days ago people.  Let's get it together. 

 

Vote Darthe.

You seem set on lynching Darthe. Maybe you think he can be an easy lynch?

 

Vote peacesells

 

 

lol..darth is an easy lynch.  And it's not because I think so...it's a proven fact.

 

 

Laying the seeds and training our brains to think that any train on Darthe is only because he's an easy lynch and the mafia are those likely to push it. 

 

Ahh, some activity and am back from the weekend too. Tough to get any specific read from just a few pages but here are my thoughts.

 

Tinker - His actions feel like he was trying to kickstart the game. Nothing much was happening and I don't see anything scummy in his vote. Leaning town

David - his initial confusion about the joke seemed forced. It did not seem like an innocent misunderstanding at all. More like he was trying to be a bit manipulative. Leaning scum

Krak - seems to be voting everybody out there, looking to see who catches on. First was a joke vote on me, then on tinker and then on Darthe. Leaning scum

Peace - seems to be pushing his lynch on Darthe. I think his initial moves were to fish reactions but he has carried it over. Not really sure, but I think town

Darthe - Darthe being Darthe so far. Only a town read on his as of now. 

Lenlo - not enough serious posts to get a read on

MCS - his initial comments against inactives seems a bit suspicious. Again, not much to go on for now but leaning scum

BG, Gen, Nica, Ishy (replacement) - nothing

 

So far, I think it is David, Krak or MCS who are on my radar. But, my vote is on David.

 

vote David

 

Interesting, a bit of a thin playing field to be posting analysis on all the players. This is usually a tactic that is used in later days. Pral is a pretty good analytical player though, so we'll see what comes of this as his instincts tend to be good from what I've seen.

 

For now

 

Vote Peace

 

So I said it before when BG first brought this up that I thought it a shoddy reason for a vote correct? Well right now we know that BG is town because of the NK.

 

 

 

 

 

This game started 4 days ago people.  Let's get it together. 

 

Vote Darthe.

You seem set on lynching Darthe. Maybe you think he can be an easy lynch?

 

Vote peacesells

 

 

lol..darth is an easy lynch.  And it's not because I think so...it's a proven fact.

 

 

Laying the seeds and training our brains to think that any train on Darthe is only because he's an easy lynch and the mafia are those likely to push it. 

 

Ahh, some activity and am back from the weekend too. Tough to get any specific read from just a few pages but here are my thoughts.

 

Tinker - His actions feel like he was trying to kickstart the game. Nothing much was happening and I don't see anything scummy in his vote. Leaning town

David - his initial confusion about the joke seemed forced. It did not seem like an innocent misunderstanding at all. More like he was trying to be a bit manipulative. Leaning scum

Krak - seems to be voting everybody out there, looking to see who catches on. First was a joke vote on me, then on tinker and then on Darthe. Leaning scum

Peace - seems to be pushing his lynch on Darthe. I think his initial moves were to fish reactions but he has carried it over. Not really sure, but I think town

Darthe - Darthe being Darthe so far. Only a town read on his as of now. 

Lenlo - not enough serious posts to get a read on

MCS - his initial comments against inactives seems a bit suspicious. Again, not much to go on for now but leaning scum

BG, Gen, Nica, Ishy (replacement) - nothing

 

So far, I think it is David, Krak or MCS who are on my radar. But, my vote is on David.

 

vote David

 

Interesting, a bit of a thin playing field to be posting analysis on all the players. This is usually a tactic that is used in later days. Pral is a pretty good analytical player though, so we'll see what comes of this as his instincts tend to be good from what I've seen.

 

For now

 

Vote Peace

 

This reads as a load of yada to me. The whole spin on Peace trying to psychologically manipulate us is balls.

 

Vote BG

 

Tiink here wastes no time in reacting to what BG posted about Peace and immediately goes to defend him with this post, not just calling it a stupid reason to vote like I did but going so far as to vote him and then immediately after this post ((1 min to be exact))

 

Unvote, vote BG

 

BG is a tactical player who uses reason. I find it hard to believe that he'd play his town strengths by voting on such a notion.  

He comes up with even more reason to ignore what BG said about Peace and to focus on BG.

 

Official Vote Count

Tiinker (2) - Darthe, Gen
BG (1) - Tiinker
Len (1) - Peace
Krak (2) - David, MCS
MCS (6) - Krak, Mish, Kaylee, BG, Len, Pral

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Not Voting
No one

Deadline

This is the VC right before we got a mod kill on Darthe and as you can see both Tiink and Peace are both staying away from the MCS train that would, at the least, give us some useful information for the days work but they both decide to ignore it and let it go random. ((I know others did as well, such as David, but this post is focusing on Peace and Tiink.))

 

MCs acted scumlike but the train seemed hugely desperate. Regardless of how close we were to the deadline, and that town wants to get info, he's dropped as a viable lynch candidate for today. Kaylee seems to want to stay in everybody's good books. You got a vote you want to place? Place it.

MCs and Oral, you guys have any thoughts to give? I'm gonna try avoid posting any mass of text because writing from this god forsaken tablet is a great pain in my ass..

I dont see how the bolded here is true at all. He was a desperate train because we were running out of time, but it was still a train based off of him acting like scum. In no way does anything point to him not being a viable lynch candidate for today. This looks like Tiink trying to move attention away from a possible team member or earn some town cred if MCS flips town if/when we lynch him.

 

Right now my top 2 are Peace and Tiink.

 

Vote Tiink. And yes I got a vote I want to place. Deal with it.

 

Since it gets confusing I put all of Lenlo's responses in blue.

Blue: He starts a case against Tink for voting BG twice. He comments on who stayed away from MCS's train D1 resulting us in a random. (Not much in this that I can see). He then makes a good point about MCS. 

Bold and blue: says Tink looks like possible distancing from a teammate or earning some possible town credit if MCS is town. What stood out to me is that fact that Tink was using a very similar reasoning for voting me. I'm not sure why, but that really stood out to me.

He then votes for one of his top two (Tink and Peace).

 

[Kaylee]

DM ate the rest, give me a second to finish collecting them.

[Kaylee]

Last of the case on Lenlo:

 

Invite eh? Cant even actually vote me, just gotta look like you did. Could be a mistake but I doubt it.

 

I did call BG out on it, as I said in my post above, but as you can see I also said a whole lot more than just about the timing. You saying I was using just that instead of looking at the rest of it makes this an easier choice for me. And the fact that you think I was trying to say you were in cahoots with BG ((Who flipped town)) means you didnt even read the part your railing against correctly. Im saying your with Peace.

 

Im willing to vote any of the three of you, but seeing what people have said I figured it easier to push for you, watch you flip scum and then use that to push Peace and MCS.

 

I was at the end because, as I stated, I was moving. Not my fault that the deadline fell on that day.

Calls Tink out for his misspelling. (True, it could've been intentional). He also claims Tink misread his post. (Not much I see with this particular quote).

 

 

 

 

Invite eh? Cant even actually vote me, just gotta look like you did. Could be a mistake but I doubt it.
 
I did call BG out on it, as I said in my post above, but as you can see I also said a whole lot more than just about the timing. You saying I was using just that instead of looking at the rest of it makes this an easier choice for me. And the fact that you think I was trying to say you were in cahoots with BG ((Who flipped town)) means you didnt even read the part your railing against correctly. Im saying your with Peace.
 
Im willing to vote any of the three of you, but seeing what people have said I figured it easier to push for you, watch you flip scum and then use that to push Peace and MCS.
 
I was at the end because, as I stated, I was moving. Not my fault that the deadline fell on that day.

Then what does the timing indicate? Nothing. You can't just grab any what if scenario. Scumhunt instead of making up random scenarios. It was just a load of fluff backed up by nothing and you came out aggressively to make it look like your points had any validity. Push me instead and watch me flip scum because you're super certain? Please..

 

The timing is that you posted one thing about BGs case and voted him and then not a minute later came back and said "No wait, theres also THIS reason to lynch him. Vote BG again for emphasis."

 

 

 

I'm thinking the fact that MCS wasn't lynched and it went random makes it more likely that MCS is scum...not less. 

Actually, no. MCS had 6 votes on him, which could be a mixture of mafia and town votes. There were 6 other players with their votes elsewhere, again these could be a mixture of mafia and townie players. So you have to explain why the town players who didn't vote mcs, decided not to lynch him. Basically at this point the mafia had no power to stop mcs's lynch other than unvoting him to reduce his number of votes.

 

The reason I didn't vote him was I didn't believe he was as scumworthy as Krak, and I didn't want to be the hammer vote.

 

ACTUALLY NO.  If those who did not vote him are scum (including me) and MCS is scum then they would benefit from a no lynch.  Therefore they would be less likely to hammer.

 

You had the opportunity to hammer.  In fact, not hammering was terribly scummy since a random has a chance of taking out a PR.  Even if the random took out scum it benefits the scum team in that there is no coroner report and they'd just trade one for one.

 

I think we need to lynch MCS today.  Not only is there a good chance he is scum..it will also give clues on several other players involved.

 

UNVOTE VOTE MCS

 

Im good with this. Im still suspicious of Peace but lynching MCs would clear up some stuff about yesterday.

 

Unvote vote MCS

 

Still suspicious of Peace, ok you've mentioned that, but what about Tink? He was your number one choice up to this point.

 

 

Unvote Vote David

 

Very good posts Mish. Prefer a Tiink one but after that I think Davids going to give us the best information and hopefully a scum.

Ok, now back to Tink. Peace was still alive at this point, interesting though.

 

 

 

Well the town lost a good player through the night, but we also lynched scum. And thank Bela it wasn't another random.

O.o Yeah... this just looks like trying *to* hard to look town.

 

Vote MCS

 

Can't really say too much here as I also thought MCS was scum.

 

 

 

I know I'm town, I believe Mish is town. That would mean for MCS to be town and Len would likely be scum. That leaves Pral, Gen and Tink. I haven't been getting a town vibe from Tink.

Of course there could be a 3rd party, but for now I'm focusing on finding scum. I'm off to work, but for now I'm happy with my vote.

Now wait a minute here. Why do I have to be likely scum and MCS town? Is there some information here you have that we dont know or are you just drawing lines to try and incriminate me?

 

As for Tiink still good with lynching him.

 

This is what really makes me lean scum on Len. I had posted a theory above this as well, and he gets stuck on the one that puts him as possible scum. That in itself isn't what stood out to me it was the next part in purple.

Purple: Seems like he's nervous I have something on him. 

[Kaylee]

Tink case:

 

Acknowledging without acknowledging. 

 

Scum.

 

Vote Darthe

Nothing much here.

 

 

 

 

Acknowledging without acknowledging. 

 

Scum.

 

Vote Darthe

Pushing something without real reasoning.

 

Silly person.

 

 

Dumb enough to take me seriously.

 

Even sillier person.

 

I took this as Tink being Tink, basically just saying something to get reactions.

 

 

Game started. You can thank me later.

He confirms as much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This game started 4 days ago people.  Let's get it together. 

 

Vote Darthe.

You seem set on lynching Darthe. Maybe you think he can be an easy lynch?

 

Vote peacesells

 

 

lol..darth is an easy lynch.  And it's not because I think so...it's a proven fact.

 

 

Laying the seeds and training our brains to think that any train on Darthe is only because he's an easy lynch and the mafia are those likely to push it. 

 

Ahh, some activity and am back from the weekend too. Tough to get any specific read from just a few pages but here are my thoughts.

 

Tinker - His actions feel like he was trying to kickstart the game. Nothing much was happening and I don't see anything scummy in his vote. Leaning town

David - his initial confusion about the joke seemed forced. It did not seem like an innocent misunderstanding at all. More like he was trying to be a bit manipulative. Leaning scum

Krak - seems to be voting everybody out there, looking to see who catches on. First was a joke vote on me, then on tinker and then on Darthe. Leaning scum

Peace - seems to be pushing his lynch on Darthe. I think his initial moves were to fish reactions but he has carried it over. Not really sure, but I think town

Darthe - Darthe being Darthe so far. Only a town read on his as of now. 

Lenlo - not enough serious posts to get a read on

MCS - his initial comments against inactives seems a bit suspicious. Again, not much to go on for now but leaning scum

BG, Gen, Nica, Ishy (replacement) - nothing

 

So far, I think it is David, Krak or MCS who are on my radar. But, my vote is on David.

 

vote David

 

Interesting, a bit of a thin playing field to be posting analysis on all the players. This is usually a tactic that is used in later days. Pral is a pretty good analytical player though, so we'll see what comes of this as his instincts tend to be good from what I've seen.

 

For now

 

Vote Peace

 

This reads as a load of yada to me. The whole spin on Peace trying to psychologically manipulate us is balls.

 

Vote BG

 

Disagrees with and votes BG.

 

 

Unvote, vote BG

 

BG is a tactical player who uses reason. I find it hard to believe that he'd play his town strengths by voting on such a notion.  

"No, BG deserves my vote because of this" an re-votes BG. Not sure why the unvote an re-vote with another/more reasoning is. Perhaps trying to appear town? Not paying attention?

 

 

Bahahha Calvin and Hobbes make the rhymes legit.

@Pral - What are the obvious scum tells that you see that I don't?

Bold: Another person to simply laugh at Krak for rhyming. Except he calls it "legit".

The comment about Pral puzzles me...Is he saying he doesn't understand how Krak is coming off as anti-town? 

 

 

Official Vote Count

Tiinker (2) - Darthe, Gen
BG (1) - Tiinker
Len (1) - Peace
Krak (2) - David, MCS
MCS (6) - Krak, Mish, Kaylee, BG, Len, Pral

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

Not Voting
No one

Deadline

Tink leaves his vote on a player with no other votes. 

 

 

MCs acted scumlike but the train seemed hugely desperate. Regardless of how close we were to the deadline, and that town wants to get info, he's dropped as a viable lynch candidate for today. Kaylee seems to want to stay in everybody's good books. You got a vote you want to place? Place it.

MCs and Oral, you guys have any thoughts to give? I'm gonna try avoid posting any mass of text because writing from this god forsaken tablet is a great pain in my ass..

Then, of course, there is the bogus case against me. MCS's train wasn't desperate. I had made a case against him. How has he dropped as a viable candidate at this point? He says I'm trying to stay on everybody's good books. No, I was making cases as I saw them and not being hasty to vote allowing others to speak up. You want thoughts from Pral and MCS, ok.

 

 

 

Defending oneself is a null tell at best. Over defensiveness is either scum or panicked town. So in the end a null tell.

Are you honestly telling me that by the way someone replies to accusations produces null tells? Getting defensive about certain issues can mean a great deal about motives and alignments.

 

I agree that how someone replies to accusations is important, but Peace was also making a point about giving reasons for finding that defensiveness scummy as town can also be defensive.

 

 

The following is actually Tink quoting Len's massive quote...I cut it down to only his response.

 

This post is full of junk. invite, vote Lenlo

Even you called out BG because his post was ridiculous. The only thing you're focusing on here is the timing which won't tell you jack because I obviously wasn't in cahootes with BG. MCS wasn't scummy enough to build a speed lynch, and the timing was used to mafias advantage. Good to see you right near the end of that lynch train.

If you believed half of what you wrote about me and Peace then you'd more logically think to push a lynch on MCS who you stated was a viable candidate for today.

 

Says Len is only concerned with the timing of the posts...No, it was because you re-voted the same person with little time in between. 

 

 

 

Invite eh? Cant even actually vote me, just gotta look like you did. Could be a mistake but I doubt it.
 
I did call BG out on it, as I said in my post above, but as you can see I also said a whole lot more than just about the timing. You saying I was using just that instead of looking at the rest of it makes this an easier choice for me. And the fact that you think I was trying to say you were in cahoots with BG ((Who flipped town)) means you didnt even read the part your railing against correctly. Im saying your with Peace.
 
Im willing to vote any of the three of you, but seeing what people have said I figured it easier to push for you, watch you flip scum and then use that to push Peace and MCS.
 
I was at the end because, as I stated, I was moving. Not my fault that the deadline fell on that day.

Then what does the timing indicate? Nothing. You can't just grab any what if scenario. Scumhunt instead of making up random scenarios. It was just a load of fluff backed up by nothing and you came out aggressively to make it look like your points had any validity. Push me instead and watch me flip scum because you're super certain? Please..

 

So you're saying your BG vote was just a load of fluff? Then why vote him twice with what seemed like conviction? You're not making much sense.

 

 

My house internet got disabled because we're moving and I had no idea. Between that and not having a laptop anymore it's pretty damn impossible for me to get online when I'd like so massive apologies.

I'm intrigued by the MCS lynch. I don't think he's necessarily scum and if we don't lynch him and he turns out to be scum then I honestly don't think he'll be a massive thorn, given the constant amount of heat he has on him, until late game. That said, I think this is a pretty sweet opportunity to gain info on Lenlo and Krak, both who I think are pretty shady.

vote Mcs

Bold: What info did you gain on them? I honestly would like to hear it.

[Kaylee]

I'd be fine voting either of these two, though I'd like to hear from them first.

[Kaylee]

Players

1. Msc - Vanilla Town, Lynched D3

2. Peace - Vanilla Town, NKed N2

3. David Hermes - Mafia Goon, lynched D2

4. Mish

5. Ishy Kaylee

6. Darthe - Modkilled D1, no majority achieved

7. Tiinker

8. Pralya

9. BG - Vanilla Town, NKed Night 1

10. Krak

11. Lenlo

12. Gen* (ithi) - Vanilla Town, NKed N3

Of those left I've case two. That leaves Mish, myself, Pral an Krak. I could go back through and look at the other 3, but I'd like to hear from others first. What are thoughts at this point? Mish? Tink? Len? Krak? Pral?