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鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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Thorum has got some family he likes to visit sometimes during the weekend. Is that allowed without getting lynched for not role- and characterclaiming? Which of you have, so far?

 

Let me put all your minds to rest, and reveal: I'm Lancelot.

 

I'm a vig, which explains why I thought there were double roles (but Kaylee turned out to have lied about her role). Which is also why I did not give a good reason for why I thought there could easily be double roles before.

 

I voted wombat because he's (day 1 and 2) been WAY too certain of my innocence to be so himself, as I have been stating since quite early. His vote today only confirms me in this, since he now has to distance himself from me because I WILL turn out to be town. Also, he's been very active yesterday during my absence, taking advantage of it to get everyone to think everyone agrees on my scummyness, which it ain't.

 

Any more questions?

 

If you are the Vig, can you claim credit for any kill?  

 

Why not shoot Wombat to eliminate the Wifom?

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

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And, Vambram, logic is WAY more important than experience in mafia. See my rant on some stupid believes during day one. Linguistic skills are even more important, which is why I always get lynched day 2-3-4.

 

I am a one-shot vig. I'm not gonna say whether I already used it and/or on who, since mafia is also listening.

 

Vambram: FoS. Voting for me "because a lynch would need two more votes"? Had two mafia beeen online, this vote would have made it very easy. Or you are mafia, and have urged your companions to vote quickly, before I claimed Lancelot (which would have been the wrong character to claim had I been lying, as with Hallia).

 

Where is Hallia, btw? Now we HAVE a confirmed innocent, she's not actually letting us use that :(

 

OK.  That answers that.  

 

I propose you shoot Wombat.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

鲍勃不是我的名字

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And, Vambram, logic is WAY more important than experience in mafia. See my rant on some stupid believes during day one. Linguistic skills are even more important, which is why I always get lynched day 2-3-4.

 

I am a one-shot vig. I'm not gonna say whether I already used it and/or on who, since mafia is also listening.

 

Vambram: FoS. Voting for me "because a lynch would need two more votes"? Had two mafia beeen online, this vote would have made it very easy. Or you are mafia, and have urged your companions to vote quickly, before I claimed Lancelot (which would have been the wrong character to claim had I been lying, as with Hallia).

 

Where is Hallia, btw? Now we HAVE a confirmed innocent, she's not actually letting us use that :(

 

Agreed.

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That reminds me, even more proof of Darthe's scumminess:

 

 

perhaps, but I would not have killed an SK who could provide my team with a quicker victory. That was rubbish. You use people like that.

The "I would never do that as scum!" defense is as weak as they come. Wifom at its best ladies and gentleman.
And yet you just provided a quote of yourself using that rationale for a town read on Thorum. It's a bit scummier when people do it for themselves, but it's close to a null tell imo.

Lol go back and look at the smilies. I was being facetious with Thorum, since he had earlier stated that "Mafia would NEVER play the game that easy".

 

And using the "I would never do that as mafia!" card is def somewhat of a scumtell, because its a very poor attempt at appealing to someone's past memories of your own meta, which obviously isn't very reliable. Not saying only scum use it, but I've seen a lot of scummies attempt to use it in the past.

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Thorum you seem very worried about being at L-2 and very eager to cover your arse with a LD

 

Anyway it's a claim, and a viable one (I believe Lancelot is on the TV show right?)

For now I'm content to look elsewhere unvote

 

Btw I'm always online, I leave my ipad logged in constantly. But love how you just expect me to appear to unvote you instantly and call me out cos I didn't

 

Now back to my QI ep then bed

 

Also I will be away tomorrow, and 50/50 not that active all week depending

Can't really say much but friend in RL got some pretty big shit right now

 

Not that I care about your announced inactivity, but I do find the irony of you pointing out that I was unheard from during the night.

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Thorum

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A bit surprised there haven't been any unvotes on those three pages... Do you think there is no lancelot (and I would somehow know as mafia), or do you just not care about losing a chance to get scum?

 

There are multiple decent cases, including wombat and davram.

WWWwombat Spam Master

WWWwombat

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A bit surprised there haven't been any unvotes on those three pages... Do you think there is no lancelot (and I would somehow know as mafia), or do you just not care about losing a chance to get scum?

 

There are multiple decent cases, including wombat and davram.

How long has it been since you claimed? And since when was a one-shot vig a critical role?

WWWwombat Spam Master

WWWwombat

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And in no way should my casing of Thorum be considered a soft-counter. I just find him extremely suspicious.

wooo hooo

 

I find you extremely suspicious

As my name is not Andrew, I don't really care.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

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Also, hate to have to say this yet again, but once again Darthe you're completely misusing and misexplaining Occam's Razor.

 

The ACTUAL principle states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. The whole "all things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one" is really just a cutesy memorable sounding quote which actually misses the mark. It has nothing to do with what is RIGHT, it has to do with what is practical.

 

If you're testing a hypothesis, the less assumptions you're dealing with the better, because that is less variables that are unaccounted for that could possibly taint the findings. If you're trying to validate a hypothesis that has an inordinate amount of assumptions, you are somewhat doomed from the start since so much of your theory hangs on unproven notions.

 

Thus, there is no Clintonian debate about what constitutes the "simplest" explanation, it is simply whichever one literally has less assumptions.

 

And to reiterate, it has no bearing on what hypothesis would actually end up being true. There are countless phenomena in this world that used to be explained with a "simple" explanation, when the actual process turned out to be incredibly complex.

 

Basically, if you're getting your definition of a logical principle like Occam's Razor from a Matthew McConaghey quote in the movie Contact, you're doing it wrong.

 

Do not give dogs what is sacred.

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

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And the Contact quote is Garbo btw. As I mentioned, there are countless situations in which the correct answer might be the more "complicated" one, and the quote has led to a ridiculous number of people who misuse the precept in daily life. And its also dangerous to use in mafia as well, since it could override better judgement and have people just go for the "simplest" solution, when often it takes a complex mind to truly get to the heart of the matter.

 

Do like adding complications.  Expected more.

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Meh. Even scientists can be dead wrong. Everyone assumed time was absolute and there was no cosmic speed limit until Einstein came along. Einstein himself believed in both locality and causality, which taken together, are imcompatible with subsequent experimental data.

 

Holy subterfuge Batman.

 

You really want to add physics to your mafia strategy?

 

Might as well get to the point.

 

Here.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc&feature=share

鲍勃不是我的名字 Experienced

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And the Contact quote is Garbo btw. As I mentioned, there are countless situations in which the correct answer might be the more "complicated" one, and the quote has led to a ridiculous number of people who misuse the precept in daily life. And its also dangerous to use in mafia as well, since it could override better judgement and have people just go for the "simplest" solution, when often it takes a complex mind to truly get to the heart of the matter.

The people who misuse the quote tend not to remember the whole quote. "All else being equal" is a very strong caveat seeing as explanatory and predictive power fall under "all else."

True. But let's leave it at that tho, this discussion might soon detail the game again.

 

 

Pretty sure you meant derail and yes this discussion is best saved for another thread.

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