[Advanced] The Dresden Files Mafia - Game Over - Ed loses, Verbal wins

[John McClane]

 

 

Add Ape to the not voting. 

 

yeah, I'm waiting for the opportunity to hammer 

 

what is your read on verbal, you know him better than most... you guys haven't even prodded each other this game.

 

Right now, my gut tells me he's town. He hasn't been exactly active enough for me to judge though. 

 

I expected more from you.

 

All you did was hedge.

[Hybrid]

 

 

 

Vote: Rand

 

Can you explain your case. I want to hear some logic from you personally, and you know know how these dorks are... if you don't esssplain your vote, they are going to wig out.... IF they ever come back and post that is.

I can't give you logic for this one, sorry. My reason is that I didn't realize he was in the game until I saw Leelou's unofficial votecount. Scum won't usually be found in that position, so I'm playing the odds that he's driftwood town. Yes, I'm advocating a townie lynch. Let the investigators do their thing, and lower the required votes to get a majority so we can actually get one.

So why a lynch over Tina shooting him tonight?

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Well I've done a small reread but it's not the massive one I promised.

I blame John Snow. There's no links to when days and nights end/begin which makes analyzing final votecounts impossible unless you want to trawl through the entire thread one page at a time which I don't.

Maybe you could just *gasp* make them yourself if they're so important to you. Revolutionary, I know.

And that would entail...? Oh yeah, that's right, trawling through the entire game thread. And then keeping track of whichever post I happen to put all the links in.

 

No. I don't think I'll be doing that thanks. Now why don't we get back to the game?

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Obviously no one is going to lynch Jif today which I think is retarded but whatevs.

Let's see if we can get a Verbal lynch going.

 

Unvote

Vote Verbal

 

I'm not sure I get why you want to lynch a potentially town investigative role.  To confirm his "views"?

 

Because of the "may" be town or scum, you can't lynch me to vet JiF.  You don't know his role, do you?  Don't try to game it.  So far it appears to be working well for us.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

He claimed Reporter.

[Leelou]

unvote, vote Verbal

[John McClane]

Verb made this vote, then proceeded to talk about bastard modding and his daughter sleeping through the night.

Also, Vote: BooBoo

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't say that is what makes a bastard mod game. Just that it would fit well in one, IMO.
*licks with Verby*

 

It really wouldn't, though.  Complicated roles =/= a bastard game.  Many times the roles are quite simple - it is the game mechanics that can be complicated.  Don't worry, I'll show you the way.  Have faith, my young padawan.

 

 

Digress into this later, we've got JIF/booboo on the ropes.

 

Fair enough.  And I'm in agreement with the tells on him.  He dies today.

 

He agrees with the "tells" that I pointed out. Pushes me forward with casing JIF.

 

Finished catching up and not sure what's going on.

Someone is pushing an agenda on JiF and a few people have either been duped, are in on it, or are following for other reasons.

Not sure about all that yet. I don't find JiF scummier than Ishy as of yet so I don't understand the big push on him especially when Ishy got mentioned in the scene.

That feels extremely off to me on top of everything he did yesterday.

 

Vote: Ishy

 

FoS: Ape

Singling Ape out over this whole JiF thing because in my experience when Ape has someone on the ropes he pushes until one of them is dead. Backing off to push on JiF doesn't sit right with me.

 

Booboo gets pressure, Nolder immediately tries to divert it to Ishy. This is the same Nolder who in a series of posts I bumped earlier called everyone that voted or mentioned him scum, except Boooboo, who voted Nolder without explaining and Nolder called it "designed scum hunting".

 

This is also the second time Nolder pushed false meta bout "what Ape usually does", the first being his fake-trap from D1.

 

 

Also, I think Darthe has a bastard game coming up.

 

I should probably stop spamming the game thread.

<.<

 

Then we'll see how it goes - I haven't seen anybody else on 3 sites create a successful (and true) bastard game.  Kitchen sink also =/= bastard games.

 

 

 

> 

Who did Ape have on the ropes then Nol?

You. He cased you during the night (which is a little suspicious in and of itself) and had a few people agreeing with him not to mention those that were already on your case yesterday like me. Then he did a 180 and switched to JiF. Doesn't make any sense unless he knows something I don't.

 

Ape always cases during the night - he uses it to stay alive or draw a NK if town, and be a super-townie when scum.....in other words, a null tell.  You haven't played a much with Ape as I thought you have.....

 

 

Here, proof verbal knows exactly how I view night talk. Which brings me back to the theory that he noticed me tip that I was cop on D2, and on N2 he pretended to want to keep me alive by fake-casing me, with plans of shooting me. Since there was no death via scum on N2, I'm fairly confident that I was the target. 

 

 

 

Also, Vote: BooBoo

 

OMG WHERE IS YOUR REASONING??????  SO SCUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

My reason is that I want you killed until you die from it.  That reason clear enough for you?

 

Ape, you are about to get sidetracked.  Reel it in.

 

Nolder started trolling at me about voting JIF instead of Ishy, Verbal took notice of it obviously becasue he insisted I stay on-task. It's as if he wanted JIF run up to reveal.

 

 

Ape, you are about to get sidetracked.  Reel it in.

 

Remember how I said JIF would eventually have to call me scum back and then start debating peripheral semantics to get me off his ass? Yeah. Just happened. ^^^^ 

 

I'm good. Nolder's aligned himself with JIF and Ishy. Let's see where it goes, whooobideee dooo!!!! !

 

 

 

What you did, tying players together is a tactic I hate and we've argued it to the death in both alignments.  You're lying.  And anyone who has played with us before should have sniffed this out immediately.  //////stares down Verb

 

No idea what you're talking about.  :-)

 

^^^ this is the post I'm referring to when I say Verbal gave JIF the "wink-wink" in thread. Came across as peculiar, as if they were yucking-it-up about using me to achieve their agenda of getting JIF run up to reveal in their QT.

 

It may be my imagination running wild, but I had scum reads on both Verbal and JIF earlier in the game. AVM as well. Not sure how cozy I want to get seeing the potential connections between them.

 

////wild theories, for now

 

If I can find time I will map out the most pragmatic approach to the rest of the game, and shelve the theories. I'm just swamped at work right now.

[John McClane]

 

 

 

Add Ape to the not voting. 

 

yeah, I'm waiting for the opportunity to hammer 

 

what is your read on verbal, you know him better than most... you guys haven't even prodded each other this game.

 

Right now, my gut tells me he's town. He hasn't been exactly active enough for me to judge though. 

 

I expected more from you.

 

All you did was hedge.

 

^^^ this, then this:

 

unvote, vote Verbal

 

Really?

[Leelou]

 

 

 

 

Add Ape to the not voting. 

 

yeah, I'm waiting for the opportunity to hammer 

 

what is your read on verbal, you know him better than most... you guys haven't even prodded each other this game.

 

Right now, my gut tells me he's town. He hasn't been exactly active enough for me to judge though. 

 

I expected more from you.

 

All you did was hedge.

 

^^^ this, then this:

 

>unvote, vote Verbal

 

Really?

 

 

Yes. 

[John McClane]

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

[Nolder]

This is the same Nolder who in a series of posts I bumped earlier called everyone that voted or mentioned him scum, except Boooboo, who voted Nolder without explaining and Nolder called it "designed scum hunting".

To be fair that was very early in the game. My opinion since then has changed, obviously.

[Leelou]

UNOfficial Vote Count:

 

Tina(2): Kat, Turin

Ed(1): AVM

Len(1): Ed

Peace(2): TGlems, Hybrid

Boo(1): Tina

Kat(1):  Boo

Nol(1): Peace

Verbal(2): Nol, Leelou

Rand(1): Verbal

 

Not Voting: Lenlo,  Rand, Ape

[Leelou]

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

 

I'm just about to drive home from work and pick up some Mexican food from Acapulcos. When I get home I'll quote it for you. 

[John McClane]

 

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

 

I'm just about to drive home from work and pick up some Mexican food from Acapulcos. When I get home I'll quote it for you. 

 

 

Yum.

 

I can wait. It should be another 375 years before Rand, Turin, Lenlo or the moderator post anything. 

 

Part of me feels like we are all tail-chasing because the game has gone stagnant and we're latching onto wild theories because there's nothing to react to, and part of me feels like I just cracked something open. Hopefully verbal's skull. 

[John McClane]

 

This is the same Nolder who in a series of posts I bumped earlier called everyone that voted or mentioned him scum, except Boooboo, who voted Nolder without explaining and Nolder called it "designed scum hunting".

To be fair that was very early in the game. My opinion since then has changed, obviously.

 

Bull.

 

You said in another post around when you voted him in this day phase, that you've suspected him for a while, more than just recently coming to this conclusion which is what you insinuate now, which is why I questioned why if you suspected both Ishy and JIF, you'd not just vote Ishy and let me pressure JIF. You flat out said on this day, that you suspected both at that time on D2, and yet you effectively stood in front of JIFs train by throwing your tantrum at me.

 

That's why I said if you were town, town logic would have been to vote one, and let someone else pressure the other. That's why I voted you, and would still be voting you now, but I want others to weigh in and I'll be the hammer. 

 

It looks more like you protected him then, and are busing/distancing now. This bullcrap response more or less solidifies that feeling for me.

[Nolder]

 

 

This is the same Nolder who in a series of posts I bumped earlier called everyone that voted or mentioned him scum, except Boooboo, who voted Nolder without explaining and Nolder called it "designed scum hunting".

To be fair that was very early in the game. My opinion since then has changed, obviously.

 

Bull.

 

You said in another post around when you voted him in this day phase, that you've suspected him for a while, more than just recently coming to this conclusion which is what you insinuate now, which is why I questioned why if you suspected both Ishy and JIF, you'd not just vote Ishy and let me pressure JIF. You flat out said on this day, that you suspected both at that time on D2, and yet you effectively stood in front of JIFs train by throwing your tantrum at me.

 

That's why I said if you were town, town logic would have been to vote one, and let someone else pressure the other. That's why I voted you, and would still be voting you now, but I want others to weigh in and I'll be the hammer. 

 

It looks more like you protected him then, and are busing/distancing now. This bullcrap response more or less solidifies that feeling for me.

The game has taken place over 3 game days and 11 IRL days. Game day 1, when I made my initial casing, I thought his vote looked more townie. Pressuring for information as opposed to opportunistic bandwagoning. Night 1 and Game day 2 is when other people started really casing Jif and I was coming to the same conclusions, HOWEVER, I had nothing unique to add and wanted to lynch ISHY besides which is where our conflict begins. Just because I didn't give you a pass to go hogwild on Jif yesterday doesn't make me scum nor does it mean I didn't change my mind without telling YOU. Your "feeling" can get as solid or soft as you want it's still wrong and you're an idiot.

[John McClane]

There's nothing about this response from you that I don't find to be complete horsecrap.

[peacesells]

 

 

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

 

I'm just about to drive home from work and pick up some Mexican food from Acapulcos. When I get home I'll quote it for you. 

 

 

Yum.

 

I can wait. It should be another 375 years before Rand, Turin, Lenlo or the moderator post anything. 

 

Part of me feels like we are all tail-chasing because the game has gone stagnant and we're latching onto wild theories because there's nothing to react to, and part of me feels like I just cracked something open. Hopefully verbal's skull. 

Ironic post is Ironic....and priceless.

[John McClane]

 

 

 

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

 

I'm just about to drive home from work and pick up some Mexican food from Acapulcos. When I get home I'll quote it for you. 

 

 

Yum.

 

I can wait. It should be another 375 years before Rand, Turin, Lenlo or the moderator post anything. 

 

Part of me feels like we are all tail-chasing because the game has gone stagnant and we're latching onto wild theories because there's nothing to react to, and part of me feels like I just cracked something open. Hopefully verbal's skull. 

Ironic post is Ironic....and priceless.

 

It's not irony when I include myself in the "we", try harder.

[John McClane]

Pee smells has proven to be the worst kind of troll, one who doesn't recognize self-deprecating remarks and then jumps on them thinking he got you.

 

LOL, what a goon.

[Nolder]

There's nothing about this response from you that I don't find to be complete horsecrap.

/yawn

 

You need some new material. Give Jif a call, I'm sure he can help you out there.

[peacesells]

Pee smells has proven to be the worst kind of troll, one who doesn't recognize self-deprecating remarks and then jumps on them thinking he got you.

 

LOL, what a goon.

 

Who's worse?  The "worst kind of troll" or the (wannabee) comedian who laughs at his own jokes?

[Leelou]

 

 

Why the change Leelou, what triggered it? Specifically?

 

I'm just about to drive home from work and pick up some Mexican food from Acapulcos. When I get home I'll quote it for you. 

 

 

Yum.

 

I can wait. It should be another 375 years before Rand, Turin, Lenlo or the moderator post anything. 

 

Part of me feels like we are all tail-chasing because the game has gone stagnant and we're latching onto wild theories because there's nothing to react to, and part of me feels like I just cracked something open. Hopefully verbal's skull. 

 

The enchiladas were awesome.

 

I was fine with Verbal up until his reason for voting Rand. It's a lazy vote going along with who people said they would vote today but made up some odd reasoning.  

 

We most likely are all tail-chasing. This game is really hard to get a full read on since so many people are not very active. 

 

 

 

 

Vote: Rand

 

 

Can you explain your case. I want to hear some logic from you personally, and you know know how these dorks are... if you don't esssplain your vote, they are going to wig out.... IF they ever come back and post that is.

 

I can't give you logic for this one, sorry.  My reason is that I didn't realize he was in the game until I saw Leelou's unofficial votecount.  Scum won't usually be found in that position, so I'm playing the odds that he's driftwood town.  Yes, I'm advocating a townie lynch.  Let the investigators do their thing, and lower the required votes to get a majority so we can actually get one.

[Tyler Glembo]

I'm okay with lynching lenlo based on the cases made. I'm also leaving my vote where it is unless a consensus forms on lenlo.

 

Need I remind everyone that peace was role fishing, then explicitly asking for role reveals, then casing and voting the cop, then trying to pry info out of the cop to out townies? I again say we lynch peace.

 

As for views, I say Ed view hybrid. jif view Turin. Tina kill rand.

[Tyler Glembo]

To clarify, peace is my top lynch at this point. Lenlo is second only if a consensus forms.

[John McClane]

 

Pee smells has proven to be the worst kind of troll, one who doesn't recognize self-deprecating remarks and then jumps on them thinking he got you.

 

LOL, what a goon.

 

Who's worse?  The "worst kind of troll" or the (wannabee) comedian who laughs at his own jokes?

 

The "worst kind of troll". Hands down.

 

Stupid question.

 

You also lose points for the use of "wannabee" and not knowing the difference between a joke and jackass remark meant to get teed off on, which is what I do, having a self-deprecating sense of humor. 

 

Try harder. Or quit now and save face.

[Nolder]

I'm okay with lynching lenlo based on the cases made. I'm also leaving my vote where it is unless a consensus forms on lenlo.

 

Need I remind everyone that peace was role fishing, then explicitly asking for role reveals, then casing and voting the cop, then trying to pry info out of the cop to out townies? I again say we lynch peace.

 

As for views, I say Ed view hybrid. jif view Turin. Tina kill rand.

Decent points. Wasn't it Peace who called for a mass reveal and then John stepped in and said no? Or was that someone else?