DPR Mafia - The Dark Monocle - Game Thread

[mmeeshal]

Alright, you know what.

 

 

Ape, shut the hell up. You are being an ass.

 

 

 

There is such a thing as being rough in Mafia, but you are going over and beyond. Act like a decent freakin human.

Thank you. If I said that, no one would take me seriously.

[John E. Kelley]

Ugh, I really should go to bed--I keep missing stuff. Yes, Wombat was suspicious of Kae on the QT--he said he could go for either Kae or Christine. However, he didn't post much in the QT, not like Ape does, so I was under the impression that he may have changed his mind between one post and the next--it all really blurs together for me, because I don't take notes.

 

But Wombat wasn't really pushing a Kae lynch, that, at least, I'm pretty sure of.

 

Wow.

 

Wombat has a ton of posts in the QT.

 

Why would you need to take notes? Our QT only has 64 posts in it TOTAL. You can read them. I just told you the exact posts where Wombat nudges us to not believe Sakea, THAT is how scum influence lynches, subtlety. Not obvious.

 

I'm assuming at this point you are scum. If you are being this obtuse as town, I think I've played my last game here. This is ridiculous.

 

So your case is based on someone that has posted in a QT that has 64 posts. Ours has 350+... And Meesh would know this. She also says that Wom didn't push a Kae lynch, but you want to base your case on Wom on a QT that has 64 posts....Grow a pair boyo....

[Christine]

Vote Wombat

 

 

He has been pinging me. Going with it. The only person on my Ping counter is NotBob.

 

 

At this rate, our best bet is to get the Original scum. Otherwise, as we kill scum, he will just recruit more. We get no where.

[mmeeshal]

Also, whatever happened to hunting for original scum? Now it's all about converts....

I'm trying to reduce your pool. My conclusion is that we could guess about lynching 1/14 attempting to get the converter (if its one person) OR we can go 1/2 and have a pretty good chance at a automaton.

 

NotBob should vet himself and shoot Wombat. Then, I can vet myself by targeting one of the other claimed roles. I have someone in mind, but lets get to that point first.

 

Since I gave us a path for NotBob to vet himself, and I am willing to vet myself. I'd say don't lynch us now. That leaves you and Wombat that knew Song was a Cop. If you are telling the truth, the Wombat should be the lynch. Then if Wombat flips converted scum, I'd consider shooting Ishmael tonight.

Okay...if NotBob shoots Wombat, I'm assuming if he flips scum you'd want to go after Ishy, but if he flips town? Then we lynch you.

[John McClane]

Because, Ape, I have 5 QTs AND the game thread to keep track of, moron.

 

YOUR QT has 65 posts. Tophats have 386. Glassmakers have 114. Chemists have 196. I think the Machinists are the only ones with less posts than your QT--yup, 21 posts. But really--yeah, that's a lot to keep track of, so sorry for not being TOTALLY on top of things.

 

And how can Wombat have "tons" of posts if the thread only has 65 posts, compared to over 100 in every other active guild? Sheesh. Talk about being obtuse.

 

I'm the moron?

 

I gave you the 5 out of 64 posts to look at and they are in the most recent 20. Its not much to go to the site and read them. You act like you did, then act like Wombat didn't nudge us to doubt Sakea. Its got nothing to do with keeping track.

 

This pettiness over wombat's posts serious? You said Wombat didn't have many posts, he has 21 of the 64 posts. 30% is a lot. Considering Red posted like twice, and its just been Song, Me at conference and NotBob forgot to join us until late.

 

Your point of view seems compromised. I have to give you benefit of the doubt that you don't suck this bad at mafia, and you aren't this stupid.

[mmeeshal]

Unless you know NotBob can't shoot Wombat--in which case I'd say you're both scum together or something. Maybe he was the godfather and you're the recruit. *waves hands in the air*

[Christine]

Not to play Devil's Advocate, but any chance that it was just a lucky shot on the scum's side to get the cop?

[John McClane]

Also, whatever happened to hunting for original scum? Now it's all about converts....

I'm trying to reduce your pool. My conclusion is that we could guess about lynching 1/14 attempting to get the converter (if its one person) OR we can go 1/2 and have a pretty good chance at a automaton.

 

NotBob should vet himself and shoot Wombat. Then, I can vet myself by targeting one of the other claimed roles. I have someone in mind, but lets get to that point first.

 

Since I gave us a path for NotBob to vet himself, and I am willing to vet myself. I'd say don't lynch us now. That leaves you and Wombat that knew Song was a Cop. If you are telling the truth, the Wombat should be the lynch. Then if Wombat flips converted scum, I'd consider shooting Ishmael tonight.

Okay...if NotBob shoots Wombat, I'm assuming if he flips scum you'd want to go after Ishy, but if he flips town? Then we lynch you.

 

Yes. Step 1 is vet NotBob by having him shoot Wombat. Let him prove he wasn't converted by taking out the most likely convert from our guild. This is all based on my assumption that Song was ratted out by a converted member of my guild and not you.

 

Then if Wombat flips scum. We gotta consider Ishmael. His arguments against me right now reek like scum trying to force a play through.

 

Question - how many automatons have we killed, and how many nights passed? I'm concerned about the numbers right now. Song and Crusher dead. I think we are down to 12 players right? Mislynch now makes it 11. If there are 4 scum right now, and 2 deaths and a conversion per night its conceivable this could be endgame.

[John McClane]

Not to play Devil's Advocate, but any chance that it was just a lucky shot on the scum's side to get the cop?

 

That is a absolute possibility. Town's more than likely to lose this game, so I'm pushing a scenario that at least helps us increase our odds of getting scum now, to lengthen the game a bit. Is based on an assumption about our guild know Song was cop, its not a sure-thing, but its all I've got. Nobody else seems to have a plan other than Ishmael, who is advocating you all lynch me because I'm piecing things together.

[John McClane]

Unless you know NotBob can't shoot Wombat--in which case I'd say you're both scum together or something. Maybe he was the godfather and you're the recruit. *waves hands in the air*

 

If NotBob can't or won't shoot, then we should be lynching him. That is the whole point of taking advantage of his ability to vet himself.

[Christine]

There has been Five nights. Possible no conversion last night, given that no non kill abilities went through?

 

 

So, let's pretend it has been five conversions. With OS, this makes it 6. Two have been killed. We are currently at most 4 scum.

 

 

We are now at 12 players alive.

 

 

Town Lynch today, 11 players.

 

Night phase, Two NK, We are at 9 alive.

 

One conversion... We lose. Five scum, Four town.

 

The only way this doesn't happen is if there was no conversion last night. That has us at 4 scum, 5 town.

 

 

THIS IS END GAME. WE CANNOT MISLYNCH.

[mmeeshal]

Welp, I was curious why you think we should lynch Wombat, if you're assuming he's the rat, because in that case, NotBob should be able to shoot Wombat, and we won't need to lynch him. Still not really following the logic of your vote. If NotBob can't shoot Wombat, wouldn't you want to vote him instead?

 

Well, at the end of Night 3, there had been only 2 automatons--Nolder and Hoof. Nolder was lynched, and I killed Hoof the same night he was converted. Night 2 saw the failure of a recruit, IIRC.

 

So then there was a recruit N4, and N5... So 2 automatons. Should be.

[Christine]

I think I missed something. Too tired, perhaps.

 

 

What is NotBob's ability?

[mmeeshal]

And, ninja'd...so classic.

[Christine]

We have to find the OS. Eventually, we will just run out of people.

[Christine]

We are ninjaing each other! Love you meesh <3

[John McClane]

Ugh, I really should go to bed--I keep missing stuff. Yes, Wombat was suspicious of Kae on the QT--he said he could go for either Kae or Christine. However, he didn't post much in the QT, not like Ape does, so I was under the impression that he may have changed his mind between one post and the next--it all really blurs together for me, because I don't take notes.

 

But Wombat wasn't really pushing a Kae lynch, that, at least, I'm pretty sure of.

 

Wow.

 

Wombat has a ton of posts in the QT.

 

Why would you need to take notes? Our QT only has 64 posts in it TOTAL. You can read them. I just told you the exact posts where Wombat nudges us to not believe Sakea, THAT is how scum influence lynches, subtlety. Not obvious.

 

I'm assuming at this point you are scum. If you are being this obtuse as town, I think I've played my last game here. This is ridiculous.

 

So your case is based on someone that has posted in a QT that has 64 posts. Ours has 350+... And Meesh would know this. She also says that Wom didn't push a Kae lynch, but you want to base your case on Wom on a QT that has 64 posts....Grow a pair boyo....

 

 

I only needed 1 post from Nolder to know what his agenda was.

 

Wombat has 5-6 of his 20 posts pushing for Sakea lynch. That is not the foundation of my case though, I've already explained what I'm suggesting. Wombat, NotBob and Meesh all knew about Song. I'm not scum. One of them probably is. If we believe Meesh, and NotBob can shoot, then its probably Wombat. If NotBob refuses, probably him.

 

As for growing a pair? GFY. I'm here actually trying to do something other than wank about pixies and english accents to change towns fortunes in this game, taking people on.

 

You are taking pot-shots at me with no credibility. What you are doing... its gutless. You are connecting me to Crusher, being opportunistic. Transparent.

 

Frankly, if NotBob can shoot - and wants to shoot you instead to vet himself, I'm cool with that too. Your alignment would be very valuable at this point in the discussion.

[mmeeshal]

We have to find the OS. Eventually, we will just run out of people.

It's been confirmed to me personally and others on a QT that there is not just the Dark Monocle as far as scum goes. There was at least one more. Dunno how many more. Scary, eh?

 

We are ninjaing each other! Love you meesh <3

[John E. Kelley]

Ape and Christine at the very least aren't on our side. Ninja is a town-role, so it seems, but Meesh hasn't been acting very townie so far.

 

We need to get rid of Ape and Chrissy, and if her act doesn't start coming together, Meesh certainly hasn't helped us at all. Make a decision and let's go with it. Meesh killed a DOC for God's sake. Holster if you aren't sure. Just because you can kill doesn't mean you should. You killed a doc. Wow.

 

So go to sleep. Easy.

[WWWwombat]

Vote: Verbal

 

He hasn't done a damned thing this entire game and as soon as Aemon started to question him, guess who got nightkilled?

[mmeeshal]

You know, I am torn on the Ape, because some of what he says makes no sense, and other stuff makes perfect sense...one thing that I am okay with is NotBob shooting Ishy, personally. It would be nice to have a better idea of where the Arsonist stands. Of course, the Arsonist himself would be a great shot, too, but since I have a theory that it might possibly be a town role this game.... *shrugs* I'm really down with either.

[Christine]

Maybe she doesn't have a choice on her role? Maybe she has to kill. The more you talk, Ishy, the more I think you are scum.

 

 

Making this a Them-us thing? Naming people that are actually active?

 

 

Yeah, ok, I would be fine with an Ishy death. Would prefer a NotBob/Wombat death.

[John McClane]

Welp, I was curious why you think we should lynch Wombat, if you're assuming he's the rat, because in that case, NotBob should be able to shoot Wombat, and we won't need to lynch him. Still not really following the logic of your vote. If NotBob can't shoot Wombat, wouldn't you want to vote him instead?

 

Well, at the end of Night 3, there had been only 2 automatons--Nolder and Hoof. Nolder was lynched, and I killed Hoof the same night he was converted. Night 2 saw the failure of a recruit, IIRC.

 

So then there was a recruit N4, and N5... So 2 automatons. Should be.

 

I hadn't planned out having to have to reveal for NotBob, which is why I voted Wombat - and said in our QT to Notbob to shoot him anyway. Put the pieces together.

 

[orc dung] it was N2 that the automaton failure happened? I thought it was N3.

 

Here's the deal, I'm a Jailor. I can target someone each night and protect/roleblock them.

 

N1 - Amega targeted NOBODY

N2 - Amega targeted Wombat (and there was no conversion)

N3 - Ape targeted Crusher (this is the night I though the failure happened, which is why I was so adamant about killing Crusher)

N4 - I missed my chance to submit, at conference. Sorry.

N5 - I missed my chance to submit, at conference. Sorry.

 

 

If the night Amega RB'ed Wombat was the only night a conversion failed, then we need to kill Wombat immediately.

[mmeeshal]

Ape and Christine at the very least aren't on our side. Ninja is a town-role, so it seems, but Meesh hasn't been acting very townie so far.

 

We need to get rid of Ape and Chrissy, and if her act doesn't start coming together, Meesh certainly hasn't helped us at all. Make a decision and let's go with it. Meesh killed a DOC for God's sake. Holster if you aren't sure. Just because you can kill doesn't mean you should. You killed a doc. Wow.

 

So go to sleep. Easy.

Dude--it was NIGHT 1. We had NO LYNCH. Songstress was the leading vote-getter that day. How the heck was I supposed to know she was a doc? I thought, gee, great information-gaining move, since we didn't have a lynch today and it would have been Songstress if the day had run full-time.

 

Stop acting like I'm an idiot. You're lucky I haven't killed you--I wanted to, more often than you know. It's just the uncertainty about the whole Arsonist deal that's kept me from it.

[Christine]

I second my idea for a Wombat lynch.