Wombat's A Song of Ice and Fire Mafia (Advanced) Game Thread

[Paperblade]

vote Ape

 

You are all over the place. Why are you so jumpy bro?

[Christine]

I can't really tell you what the punishment is without telling you the role. The best I can describe it doesn't really make sense. It's just better to say that this is a pointless path that everyone is rolling down.

 

 

John, I am not a strong lynch candidate. I have already said that I have no offensive abilities, only defensive. I AM NOT CULT. Been screaming that since the beginning.

 

 

Meesh, you won't even give a reason for your vote? You know, that pisses me off, that people won't even give a valid reason. They just hop onto an easy wagon. If you are going to play the game, please play it. This goes for all you inactives.

 

Agree Amega with John not paying attention.

 

Nolder, she might not be gone. That's what my point was. She might still be alive, but unable to talk/vote. She just might have a Night Kill, so we may be unable to do anything. I guess we can't really do anything, except find out at the end game if she is still out there, playing a role.

 

Nolder, not baiting a lynch. Just trying to get y'all off this train before the day is entirely wasted. I will reveal before I am lynched, and then all of you will feel like idiots for this day phase.

 

John, you say you don't believe me, but then you take something I say and run with it. Are you drunk posting?

 

 

It would be bad for most everyone, really. Bad for anyone on my house. Bad for anyone that agrees with me. Bad for anyone that I think should die. It's just bad all around, really.

 

Thank you, Ama! Also, love your lynch mob siggy!

 

Anywho, unvote since we have an active person now!

 

I am torn between voting for inactives and voting for Ape.

 

 

Is there a deadline currently in place?

[Leelou]

Ok, I believe one point Christine is making. I have no clue who is in my faction and I do belong to a faction - not cult and not unaligned survivor. The rest, I'm not so sure if I'm buying. I've had a massive migraine all day yesterday and really need to go reread through the current day so far before voting. I don't think I'm going to have time before work, so I'll try to do it sometime this afternoon.

[Nolder]

you're running everyone in circles Christine

look at this

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I am neither cult nor faction leader. And, I cannot reveal. If I do so, it would pretty much hurt this game. But, more on that in a bit.

here you act as though you know exactly what would hurt and how

and note the underline where you keep stringing people along as though you're going to reveal something

 

Alright, let me specify. I can tell you who my character is. I can tell you what my House is. I will not do that. That is my secret to keep. It is my ability that I cannot reveal. To do so would pretty much put both me and a lot of people on my team, whoever they are, at risk. More on this in a moment though.

same as above

you know that it will put you and your team at risk huh?

and you'll tell us in a moment?

 

Anyways, here is the details about my Role: I was told in my Role PM that should I reveal myself, that something will happen. Some could consider it a punishment, others consider it something good for me. Either way, I consider it more of a punishment. And it punishes others too.

Ooooh! Something eh? Sounds... ambiguous

it might be good for you but it might be bad? and it might be bad for "others" oh so it's not just your team? and it's not just you?

so is it everyone?

funny how you led us on to believe you'd clarify yourself "in a moment" only to tell us nothing at all

 

You don't want me to reveal, and I will push off revealing as best I can, but just realize that continuing on this path will get you no where. Heed my warning, but if this continues, then you will have all wasted a day.

obviously it will get us no where if you aren't going to tell us anything

 

Don't believe me? Let me live through this day, and we will see what happens after the night phase. I have a feeling my role will be revealed in the morning.

you have a feeling?

what gave you that feeling? you said Wombat never responded to you

 

I can't really tell you what the punishment is without telling you the role. The best I can describe it doesn't really make sense. It's just better to say that this is a pointless path that everyone is rolling down.

so you can tell us your character (but you wont) but you can't tell us your role?

but wait...you can tell us your role right? it's just that something "bad" will happen...to you? to your team? to everyone? if you do

 

John, I am not a strong lynch candidate. I have already said that I have no offensive abilities, only defensive. I AM NOT CULT. Been screaming that since the beginning.

a defensive ability eh? and this is triggered how exactly?

 

Nolder, not baiting a lynch. Just trying to get y'all off this train before the day is entirely wasted. I will reveal before I am lynched, and then all of you will feel like idiots for this day phase.

Oh! so you WILL reveal eh?

better get that fakeclaim ready...

 

It would be bad for most everyone, really. Bad for anyone on my house. Bad for anyone that agrees with me. Bad for anyone that I think should die. It's just bad all around, really.

mmmmhmm

how is it bad again?

oh wait we wont be able to understand right?

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how can you expect anyone to take you seriously?

[Christine]

Then don't take me seriously. Continue throwing votes on me. But, if I get close to being lynched, then I will reveal, and the votes will quickly be moved elsewhere.

[John McClane]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

 

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

 

What are you not understanding... you are splitting hairs over meaninglessness as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, I don't think she should be given "one more day".

 

I said she's playing like she doesn't have any, or many, team mates. She wants one more day. If she's got conversion abilities, she may not have a team mate right this moment - but she could convert one tonight if we let her live another day. So, long story short - the things she is saying, I don't believe them.

 

I don't feel like I'm poorly explaining my position here, so I'm starting to wonder if you are dense, or just playing dense to try and stall her train. Did Christine happen to visit you last night?

[Nolder]

Then don't take me seriously. Continue throwing votes on me. But, if I get close to being lynched, then I will reveal, and the votes will quickly be moved elsewhere.

alright I'll call the bluff

I doubt I'd be a high priority target on this train anyway if you do get to choose to kill someone or whatnot

 

Vote: Christine

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count:

 

Christine(10): 鲍勃不是我的名字, Sakaea, trench, aemonkristen, Crusher, Keyholder, Razen, Ape, Meesh, Nolder

Songstress(1): Song of Ice and Fire

trench(1): Perfexionist

Keyholder(1): PatsFanTX

Ape(3): amegakure, Thorum, Paperblade

 

With 28 voting players, it takes 15 to lynch.

 

Deadline has been set for Wednesday, February 22 at 9 PM EST

[John McClane]

is nationality relevant?

 

Seeing Levity's already got a few votes, I'm gonna go for another inactive who I guess is American: perfexionist

 

Didn't see Americans as a faction.

 

As per activity, being American or not is relevant, seeing the huge amount of American Football-related spam.

 

Seeing perfexionist has since posted more than once today, I'll unvote.

 

 

 

 

 

Pats, what's wrong with Keyholder?

 

VOTE KEYHOLDER

 

he dosent need one...hes pats!

?????

 

being punished and modkilled is quite different.. But either way i dont believe your the way to go...with all these factions going on kill each other i see you possibly getting nk. So im going to vote ape...

 

The bold part of this statement is meaningless. Strong lynch candidates usually don't get NK'ed. Anyone that has played 2+ games of mafia should know this by now.

The actually do find the meaning in the bold: christine revealed something very bad is gonna happen to her faction. Which could encourage all other factions (f.e. those not a house) to go after her.

 

Actually, I would have loved you having a real reason, as per amega's strange behaviour above. But, apart from this one, she also gives a perfect explanation herself.

 

vote ape. For pressing on an invalid point.

 

 

What makes it invalid?

 

Christine gets heat today, begs for one more day and feigns the likelihood of being NK'ed, then doesn't die via NK, chances are she gets run up the next day. This is a pretty reliable assumption for me to have made. We see it happen quite often in mafia.

 

At this point, I also think she's tipping Bomb. Which will likely keep her from being NK'ed, and keep her from being lynched. Are you willing to give her a free ride to end game? Because that is where this is going...

 

I'm more inclined to call people on bluffs that many of the people I play mafia with. I'm reading a lot of the votes for me this morning, and it sounds like a bunch of people just taking Christine at her word. The point of this game is lying. Hahaha...

[John McClane]

vote Ape

 

You are all over the place. Why are you so jumpy bro?

 

 

Bull.

 

I've been entirely consistent in my position. Bandwagon vote that isn't even rooted in something close to truthful. If we don't go with Christine, then you are my next vote.

[Christine]

Alright, let's say I do get one more day. SOMEONE in this game has to have an ability to see what I do at night. Let me live through the night, and if I live, and I visit someone, then lynch me. Go for it.

 

But, as I have stated, I have no offensive ability.

[John McClane]

Ok, I believe one point Christine is making. I have no clue who is in my faction and I do belong to a faction - not cult and not unaligned survivor. The rest, I'm not so sure if I'm buying. I've had a massive migraine all day yesterday and really need to go reread through the current day so far before voting. I don't think I'm going to have time before work, so I'll try to do it sometime this afternoon.

 

 

Hi.

 

I give you banana, make you feel better?

[Nolder]

I'm willing to believe a potential lie every now and then in mafia

I show more trust than I should tbh

 

but Christine isn't giving us anything to work with

it's all just a bunch of vague threats and promises

if I'm going to give someone a pass I want to know what it is I'm giving them a pass for

if she wants to claim bomb and see if she can scoot by with that then by all means try it

but I'm not going to do it for "something bad might happen to me, to you, to everyone! if I say too much

but let me live and I'll maybe tell you tomorrow"

[Nolder]

Alright, let's say I do get one more day. SOMEONE in this game has to have an ability to see what I do at night. Let me live through the night, and if I live, and I visit someone, then lynch me. Go for it.

 

But, as I have stated, I have no offensive ability.

so now we're supposed to trust that there is for sure a role cop

that the role cop will for sure investigate you

and that the role cop will for sure share whatever information they gained?

 

you're smelling more and more like cult leader with each post my dear

[John McClane]

I can't really tell you what the punishment is without telling you the role. The best I can describe it doesn't really make sense. It's just better to say that this is a pointless path that everyone is rolling down.

 

 

John, I am not a strong lynch candidate. I have already said that I have no offensive abilities, only defensive. I AM NOT CULT. Been screaming that since the beginning.

 

 

Meesh, you won't even give a reason for your vote? You know, that pisses me off, that people won't even give a valid reason. They just hop onto an easy wagon. If you are going to play the game, please play it. This goes for all you inactives.

 

Agree Amega with John not paying attention.

 

Nolder, she might not be gone. That's what my point was. She might still be alive, but unable to talk/vote. She just might have a Night Kill, so we may be unable to do anything. I guess we can't really do anything, except find out at the end game if she is still out there, playing a role.

 

Nolder, not baiting a lynch. Just trying to get y'all off this train before the day is entirely wasted. I will reveal before I am lynched, and then all of you will feel like idiots for this day phase.

 

John, you say you don't believe me, but then you take something I say and run with it. Are you drunk posting?

 

 

It would be bad for most everyone, really. Bad for anyone on my house. Bad for anyone that agrees with me. Bad for anyone that I think should die. It's just bad all around, really.

 

Thank you, Ama! Also, love your lynch mob siggy!

 

Anywho, unvote since we have an active person now!

 

I am torn between voting for inactives and voting for Ape.

 

 

Is there a deadline currently in place?

 

 

Um, you've been a vote-getter both day phases no? Right now, you are top vote-getter. You ARE a lynch candidate.

 

As for what Amega pointed out, I'm paying very close attention - I always do. I think he is misinterpreting, or spinning, my point. Already addressed it above though. I'm not going to be redundant.

[Christine]

Seriously, what a waste of our day phase.

 

 

Fine, you know what? Let's do a nice little reveal here.

 

 

You can't kill me.

[Nolder]

how is that bad for everyone?

[Christine]

I cannot tell you. Keep voting for me, and I guess I will have to.

[Amadine]

Why is everyone assuming all factions are united? I have seen nothing to imply that.

 

I've seen nothing to prove that they are not united, although I do admit that it would be interesting to find out whether that it is true one way or the other. The fact that you bring this up leads me to believe that you might not have a faction. Or that if you do, you don't know who they are. And that means either you are unaligned or something more sinister.

 

Obviously you have contact with your faction members which means you are not in my faction because i do not know who else is in mine.

 

VOTE RAZEN

[Amadine]

Alright. You know what. Here is a reveal.

 

 

I am in a faction, and I have no idea who else is in it.

 

This bothers me. Going by source material, I'm afraid you're aligned with The Spider. His little birds don't all know who each other are...and I may think of who else you could be aligned with later, but for now I'm going to Vote Christine

 

Interesting... Sakaea also either is unaligned or in a faction where the members know each other.

[Amadine]

Alright. You know what. Here is a reveal.

 

 

I am in a faction, and I have no idea who else is in it.

 

This post stinks. I dont buy this reveal at all. Its way to convenient to claim you do not know your Teammates, but are on a faction. Right after discussion of, if all factions are aware of each other. I want to see what you are hiding, by making this flimsy reveal. Vote Christine.

 

As for lynching inactivity, I dont know if I am ready to head down that road yet, I would rather give the Mod time to replace them if they cant stay active.

 

Oh look another one...

 

 

 

 

Personally i think that those on factions who know their team mates are the most dangerous in the game at this point and we should look to eliminating them.

[Nolder]

what are your thoughts on Christine Ama?

[Amadine]

I believe her - for the moment - as i said before.

 

Her claim makes sense to me.

[Christine]

I want to hear from all the lot that are currently voting for me. Seems like most of them just stopped by, left a vote, and haven't come back. Note that I said MOST, not all.

[Nolder]

it makes sense? how?

all she was saying was "leave me alone or something bad will happen"

she revealed and...what do you know nothing bad has happened

you know something I don't? because that looks like lying to me and I see no reason to trust anything she's saying