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Wow, John, your pleading at the end of that last post was cute.

 

There's a difference between being aggressive and being completely ridiculous, and I'm only saying that sometimes you border toward the latter (in my perspective only, though). It's like how there's a huge difference because going AWOL for a week (aka me) and intentionally active lurking.

 

I'd have much more to say, but I'm in pain and my mind is clouded, give me a few moments

I don't agree with your method of arguing, by the way, but I'm leaning a little towards believing you. Like I mentioned before, you've been giving me townvibes all game.

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Wow, John, your pleading at the end of that last post was cute.

 

There's a difference between being aggressive and being completely ridiculous, and I'm only saying that sometimes you border toward the latter (in my perspective only, though). It's like how there's a huge difference because going AWOL for a week (aka me) and intentionally active lurking.

 

I'd have much more to say, but I'm in pain and my mind is clouded, give me a few moments

I don't agree with your method of arguing, by the way, but I'm leaning a little towards believing you. Like I mentioned before, you've been giving me townvibes all game.

 

 

LOL, it probably wouldn't be a stretch to call me aggressively ridiculous either. Joking aside, I put 100% into the games I play... I'm just not always graceful, or right, but its never for lack of effort.

 

On a non-game related note, not sure why your in pain - but feel better.

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Wow, John, your pleading at the end of that last post was cute.

 

There's a difference between being aggressive and being completely ridiculous, and I'm only saying that sometimes you border toward the latter (in my perspective only, though). It's like how there's a huge difference because going AWOL for a week (aka me) and intentionally active lurking.

 

I'd have much more to say, but I'm in pain and my mind is clouded, give me a few moments

I don't agree with your method of arguing, by the way, but I'm leaning a little towards believing you. Like I mentioned before, you've been giving me townvibes all game.

 

 

LOL, it probably wouldn't be a stretch to call me aggressively ridiculous either. Joking aside, I put 100% into the games I play... I'm just not always graceful, or right, but its never for lack of effort.

 

On a non-game related note, not sure why your in pain - but feel better.

I AM SO SORRY LOL, I didn't realize I was making it sound like I didn't appreciate how dedicated you've been to playing~ I like that about players, even if I pick on their arguments. I tend to be the kind of person that can be overly critical and then feel terrible about it afterwards.

 

I wanted to chip in that because you've been such a top-contributor, it's been easy for you to sail by because you've been an important asset to keeping discussion alive. I really think I believe you, though, and actually because I'd been getting mafia vibes from Ish (I'm ashamed to say that I withheld these feelings earlier because I already had others thinking I was a Wombat supporter, which wasn't necessarily true). I've been having a harder time reading players overall this game though, probably due to it be being no-coroner u_u

 

(thanks by the way)

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Hmm, the way this is going I assume I will be dead by morning .-. Sorry John for just attacking you like that :/ I just feel if I don't pitch in, I will get lynched by the town. I felt I needed to vote or people would get false suspicions. I am still new to online Mafia so I'm not all that clear on how to "read" posts and tell who is who (read as in find sufficient evidence to vote for them) so I just mostly have to go with what looks sus to me. :/

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Ugh, and internet kills another one of my posts. If there's one thing I hate, it's rewriting posts. >.<

 

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

Look, I'm sorry that I don't have as much time to commit to the game as you, but that doesn't make me scum. I don't lurk. I come in when I can, read through what's been said, and post my thoughts. I apologize to the Town that I haven't been able to re-read and analyze as the Coroner should, but that's just the way it is.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

If I was scum, you Finder, and Meesh Healer, then I would try to lynch Meesh first.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

If I was fear mongering in the situation that you present, then I would have done it before Ishy was lynched. It would make no sense for me to do so after the lynch because when, come Day, the game would still be going, and I'd look a fool.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.

 

What? I have no idea how you get this...I never mentioned anything of the sort. In fact, if I did that would support your case of being Town. (more on that later) The reason I delayed revealing Key's role, was because I didn't want the scum to know that I had no backup in my role. (I wasn't sure how beneficial that knowledge would be to scum, but since I figured not telling couldn't hurt Town, I mine as well play it safe) But when my reveal wasn't believed, I figured that might add some credibility to my claim, however little. I don't see how that implies that there are backup roles though. It makes sense that there would be one for the Coroner, but having it for other roles would overpower the Town.

 

Also, I know its a wifom... but if I were scum, and I just won the game with Ishy's lynch... would I be fighting this hard? No. I'd just submit the NK and crack open the champagne, as such.

 

Ugh, and internet kills another one of my posts. If there's one thing I hate, it's rewriting posts. >.<

 

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

Look, I'm sorry that I don't have as much time to commit to the game as you, but that doesn't make me scum. I don't lurk. I come in when I can, read through what's been said, and post my thoughts. I apologize to the Town that I haven't been able to re-read and analyze as the Coroner should, but that's just the way it is.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

If I was scum, you Finder, and Meesh Healer, then I would try to lynch Meesh first.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

If I was fear mongering in the situation that you present, then I would have done it before Ishy was lynched. It would make no sense for me to do so after the lynch because when, come Day, the game would still be going, and I'd look a fool.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.

 

What?

 

Also, I know its a wifom... but if I were scum, and I just won the game with Ishy's lynch... would I be fighting this hard? No. I'd just submit the NK and crack open the champagne, as such.

 

Ugh, and internet kills another one of my posts. If there's one thing I hate, it's rewriting posts. >.<

 

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

Look, I'm sorry that I don't have as much time to commit to the game as you, but that doesn't make me scum. I don't lurk. I come in when I can, read through what's been said, and post my thoughts. I apologize to the Town that I haven't been able to re-read and analyze as the Coroner should, but that's just the way it is.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

If I was scum, you Finder, and Meesh Healer, then I would try to lynch Meesh first.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

If I was fear mongering in the situation that you present, then I would have done it before Ishy was lynched. It would make no sense for me to do so after the lynch because when, come Day, the game would still be going, and I'd look a fool.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.

 

What?

 

Also, I know its a wifom... but if I were scum, and I just won the game with Ishy's lynch... would I be fighting this hard? No. I'd just submit the NK and crack open the champagne, as such.

 

Ugh, and internet kills another one of my posts. If there's one thing I hate, it's rewriting posts. >.<

 

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

Look, I'm sorry that I don't have as much time to commit to the game as you, but that doesn't make me scum. I don't lurk. I come in when I can, read through what's been said, and post my thoughts. I apologize to the Town that I haven't been able to re-read and analyze as the Coroner should, but that's just the way it is.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

If I was scum, you Finder, and Meesh Healer, then I would try to lynch Meesh first.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

If I was fear mongering in the situation that you present, then I would have done it before Ishy was lynched. It would make no sense for me to do so after the lynch because when, come Day, the game would still be going, and I'd look a fool.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.

 

What?

 

Also, I know its a wifom... but if I were scum, and I just won the game with Ishy's lynch... would I be fighting this hard? No. I'd just submit the NK and crack open the champagne, as such.

 

This is a very good point and has me somewhat befuddled. You do seem rather...sincere, and until you claimed Finder, you had barely pinged me the entire game. For the first time since you responded to my reveal, I'm considering that you might be Town. Also, re-reading, a tiny bit surrounding Nolder, Ishy did not come across as the Healer at all. (while Meesh did) If this game does indeed somehow continue after tonight, that would mean that Ishy is scum and John and Meesh...telling the truth? Regardless, this is one of the most crazy games I've ever played. STILL confused this late in the game as to what is going on. See what Daybreak brings.

 

 

Posted

Wow, something really strange happened with that post. Below is what it should like. Ignore above post.

 

Ugh, and internet kills another one of my posts. If there's one thing I hate, it's rewriting posts. >.<

 

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

Look, I'm sorry that I don't have as much time to commit to the game as you, but that doesn't make me scum. I don't lurk. I come in when I can, read through what's been said, and post my thoughts. I apologize to the Town that I haven't been able to re-read and analyze as the Coroner should, but that's just the way it is.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

If I was scum, you Finder, and Meesh Healer, then I would try to lynch Meesh first.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

If I was fear mongering in the situation that you present, then I would have done it before Ishy was lynched. It would make no sense for me to do so after the lynch because when, come Day, the game would still be going, and I'd look a fool.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.

 

What? I have no idea how you get this...I never mentioned anything of the sort. In fact, if I did that would support your case of being Town. (more on that later) The reason I delayed revealing Key's role, was because I didn't want the scum to know that I had no backup in my role. (I wasn't sure how beneficial that knowledge would be to scum, but since I figured not telling couldn't hurt Town, I mine as well play it safe) But when my reveal wasn't believed, I figured that might add some credibility to my claim, however little. I don't see how that implies that there are backup roles though. It makes sense that there would be one for the Coroner, but having it for other roles would overpower the Town.

 

Also, I know its a wifom... but if I were scum, and I just won the game with Ishy's lynch... would I be fighting this hard? No. I'd just submit the NK and crack open the champagne, as such.

 

This is a very good point and has me somewhat befuddled. You do seem rather...sincere, and until you claimed Finder, you had barely pinged me the entire game. For the first time since you responded to my reveal, I'm considering that you might be Town. Also, re-reading, a tiny bit surrounding Nolder, Ishy did not come across as the Healer at all. (while Meesh did) If this game does indeed somehow continue after tonight, that would mean that Ishy is scum and John and Meesh...telling the truth? Regardless, this is one of the most crazy games I've ever played. STILL confused this late in the game as to what is going on. See what Daybreak brings.

 

 

Posted

Waiting upon coroner results to vote. Since the game is still going though, Ishy must have been scum. Looking at Levity, Corrosive, and Soyo for the remaining scum. Levity would be the most likely of the trio. Still confused about John though.

Posted

Levity would be the most likely of the trio.

Nope. Thanks for picking me out, though; nice to be appreciated for once.

 

Here are a few things I'm confused about.

 

1. doctor is still alive

2. the supposed coroner still has no scum results (?)

3. we had two kills N1, I believe? and there haven't been two nightkills at once since

 

This is why I hate no-coroner games and I should have looked more closely at this one before I played (I didn't realize what type of game this was).

Posted

Still awaiting results....

 

All I'm gonna say is that we need to be very careful about who we lynch. We need to think carefully, and NOT PUT PEOPLE AT L-1 PREMATURELY SO A MAFIA CAN SWOOP IN AND END THE GAME.

Vote Corrosive.

 

So I'm thinking Corrosive and Levity are scum. (changed my mind that Corrosive is the most scummy) So Corrosive/Ishy/(Levity or Soyo) for scum. And now my guess would be that John is 3rd party.

 

Oh, here we are. In post edit: Got my results.

 

Ishy is....Doc....Wow.

 

Song is Double Voter. I'm assuming they're both Town. Mod hasn't clarified that yet.

 

Well that definitely changes things. Unvote Vote John

 

I have absolutely no idea how mafia hasn't won yet. But, well, I guess this is what it all comes down to. Believe me or John. All the dice have been cast.

Posted

Still awaiting results....

 

All I'm gonna say is that we need to be very careful about who we lynch. We need to think carefully, and NOT PUT PEOPLE AT L-1 PREMATURELY SO A MAFIA CAN SWOOP IN AND END THE GAME.

Vote Corrosive.

 

So I'm thinking Corrosive and Levity are scum. (changed my mind that Corrosive is the most scummy) So Corrosive/Ishy/(Levity or Soyo) for scum. And now my guess would be that John is 3rd party.

 

Oh, here we are. In post edit: Got my results.

 

Ishy is....Doc....Wow.

 

Song is Double Voter. I'm assuming they're both Town. Mod hasn't clarified that yet.

 

Well that definitely changes things. Unvote Vote John

 

I have absolutely no idea how mafia hasn't won yet. But, well, I guess this is what it all comes down to. Believe me or John. All the dice have been cast.

 

This reeks like a bus play. Corrosive might be the 4th scum, not Nolder.

Posted

Yep, both Town. So strange.

This post in particular is what convinced me of his being scum, actually, but I supposed he's already been hammered.

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