(ADVANCED) Naruto Mafia GAME OVER!

[hotpocket2006]

 

 

I'm still waiting for Wombat's alignment. The above is part of the reason I voted for him though. With all those Vanilla Townies, I figured that if a Townie was roled, it'd be a rather common role.

 

I can only assume that you are lying John. Vote Meesh

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roleblocker is a common enough role... I am not sure the above makes sense. I'd like other people's thoughts on what has been said. I think I may believe Locke, but so much has been claimed in this game that I just can't get my head straight right now.

[hotpocket2006]

When do you normally get results Locke?

[John McClane]

UNVOTE so confused, I'm still liking the John vote, but I have *cough* enhanced powers with votes and would still like to discuss things a bit.

 

Why do you think I jumped all over Nolder when he initially hinted Cop?

[SBoydW]

Yeah I really don't like how Locke had supposed evidence against John, but then votes against Meesh (who while at one time to me seemed scummy doesn't have any hard core evidence against her like Locke supposedly has against John), that lends a little credence to an Ishy Locke connection... ya know wanting to take out the competition and all. But then he switches shortly after he's called on it..

[hotpocket2006]

UNVOTE so confused, I'm still liking the John vote, but I have *cough* enhanced powers with votes and would still like to discuss things a bit.

 

Why do you think I jumped all over Nolder when he initially hinted Cop?

 

That is true. You did do that. And I have thought you were town the whole game... It also doesn't make sense to see so much vanilla.

 

VOTE ISHY

[hotpocket2006]

Well, I guess I would like a refund on what you sold Ishy...

 

Unvote. Vote Ishy

 

Would you still like an explanation for my voting you Meesh?

 

Also, I'm sorry to say, but with this vote Ishy was hammered anyway...

[SBoydW]

Well, I guess I would like a refund on what you sold Ishy...

 

Unvote. Vote Ishy

 

Would you still like an explanation for my voting you Meesh?

 

Also, I'm sorry to say, but with this vote Ishy was hammered anyway...

 

 

Yeah I'm fine with that.

[John E. Kelley]

Well, if that's the case, good job. You lynched the Doc. And proved how weak you all are, letting Ape lead you around. You sheep will believe anything I guess.

[hotpocket2006]

Well, if that's the case, good job. You lynched the Doc. And proved how weak you all are, letting Ape lead you around. You sheep will believe anything I guess.

 

lol If you are town, then you are a town jerk, that's fer shure. Sorry you didn't play your cards right, but that's your fauly bud, not mine.

 

[Locke]

Turns out Wombat IS Town Roleblocker. Which explains why John was so keen to lynch him. (Yeah, I know, I'm a bit of a hypocrite there. >.>)

 

Oh my goodness. This is ridiculous.

 

Nolder - Town, Symp. (Will convert to Mafia if the mafia guesses that he is the symp)

 

Red - Town, COP

 

BG - Town, Vanilla

 

Panda - Town, Vanilla

 

Rey - Town, Vanilla

 

Hoof - Town, Tracker

 

Key - Town

 

I'm still waiting for Wombat's alignment. The above is part of the reason I voted for him though. With all those Vanilla Townies, I figured that if a Townie was roled, it'd be a rather common role.

 

I can only assume that you are lying John. Vote Meesh

 

 

No, I'm not lying.

 

Here is what I believe, I believe Nolder was your scummate. I'm assuming you are saying he was a symp here since I am the one that led the lynch on him - gotta have some sort of explanation for why I'd lead a lynch on scum, to make your counter believable. I believe that the real coroner is dead already, and I believe the scum team must be Ishy, Hoof and you.

 

Desperation play to eliminate me, and lead the remaining town around by the nose with your delayed fake coroner results.

 

Creative counter claim. You need to die after Ishy. I know he is scum.

 

You're right, I am rather desperate, since thus far only Townies have been killed. Clearly you and your scum teammates have played a good game. Up until you claimed Cop. Your reaction proves that there aren't multiple investigative roles or some other strange thing.

 

Lol, of course you want to lynch Ishy first. Then you can NK me come night.

 

UNVOTE, VOTE JOHN I think is the way to go, get rid of him first, then meesh.

 

Big mistake Song.

 

Look at the collective game. Look at his contrived results, that seemingly ONLY indict me. We have scum on the ropes here, this is a pure desperation play.

 

I don't know how better to make it clear.

 

Propaganda post.

 

I dunno. They both must be scum. I spent like a minute trying to figure out which to vote for and then just picked Meesh because she already had more votes. (I hadn't seen your unvote at the time)

 

If someone presents a scenario where John would be the better lynch, then I shall gladly switch.

 

 

Unvote

Vote John

 

 

Haha... I love the feigned "if someone presents a scenario" line, and then the immediate switch to me, like it wasn't what you intended to do all along.

 

It frustrates me how transparent this is. Seriously.

 

Again, propaganda. Let me explain myself. Both Meesh and John are 100% scum, no doubt. Therefore I don't care which one we lynch first. After Song posted, you had more votes, therefore I switched my vote to you. Since I don't know your roles, I don't know which is more of a threat and needs to be eliminated first.

 

When do you normally get results Locke?

 

Come Day. Amegakure forgot to give me Wombat's alignment. Also, Key was the backup Coroner. Mine as well reveal that now.

 

Yeah I really don't like how Locke had supposed evidence against John, but then votes against Meesh (who while at one time to me seemed scummy doesn't have any hard core evidence against her like Locke supposedly has against John), that lends a little credence to an Ishy Locke connection... ya know wanting to take out the competition and all. But then he switches shortly after he's called on it..

 

Again, they're both scum.

 

Well, I guess I would like a refund on what you sold Ishy...

 

Unvote. Vote Ishy

 

Would you still like an explanation for my voting you Meesh?

 

Also, I'm sorry to say, but with this vote Ishy was hammered anyway...

 

Ouch. Town just lost. Well played John and scum.

[Locke]

Let's see, there's 8 alive. Even if there's 3 scum and 5 town left, there's no way Town can win if Ishy's lynch does indeed go through, which it appears it has.

[amegakure]

One moment

[amegakure]

One moment

[Locke]

*60 moments later*

[John E. Kelley]

Turns out Wombat IS Town Roleblocker. Which explains why John was so keen to lynch him. (Yeah, I know, I'm a bit of a hypocrite there. >.>)

 

Oh my goodness. This is ridiculous.

 

Nolder - Town, Symp. (Will convert to Mafia if the mafia guesses that he is the symp)

 

Red - Town, COP

 

BG - Town, Vanilla

 

Panda - Town, Vanilla

 

Rey - Town, Vanilla

 

Hoof - Town, Tracker

 

Key - Town

 

I'm still waiting for Wombat's alignment. The above is part of the reason I voted for him though. With all those Vanilla Townies, I figured that if a Townie was roled, it'd be a rather common role.

 

I can only assume that you are lying John. Vote Meesh

 

 

No, I'm not lying.

 

Here is what I believe, I believe Nolder was your scummate. I'm assuming you are saying he was a symp here since I am the one that led the lynch on him - gotta have some sort of explanation for why I'd lead a lynch on scum, to make your counter believable. I believe that the real coroner is dead already, and I believe the scum team must be Ishy, Hoof and you.

 

Desperation play to eliminate me, and lead the remaining town around by the nose with your delayed fake coroner results.

 

Creative counter claim. You need to die after Ishy. I know he is scum.

 

You're right, I am rather desperate, since thus far only Townies have been killed. Clearly you and your scum teammates have played a good game. Up until you claimed Cop. Your reaction proves that there aren't multiple investigative roles or some other strange thing.

 

Lol, of course you want to lynch Ishy first. Then you can NK me come night.

 

UNVOTE, VOTE JOHN I think is the way to go, get rid of him first, then meesh.

 

Big mistake Song.

 

Look at the collective game. Look at his contrived results, that seemingly ONLY indict me. We have scum on the ropes here, this is a pure desperation play.

 

I don't know how better to make it clear.

 

Propaganda post.

 

I dunno. They both must be scum. I spent like a minute trying to figure out which to vote for and then just picked Meesh because she already had more votes. (I hadn't seen your unvote at the time)

 

If someone presents a scenario where John would be the better lynch, then I shall gladly switch.

 

 

Unvote

Vote John

 

 

Haha... I love the feigned "if someone presents a scenario" line, and then the immediate switch to me, like it wasn't what you intended to do all along.

 

It frustrates me how transparent this is. Seriously.

 

Again, propaganda. Let me explain myself. Both Meesh and John are 100% scum, no doubt. Therefore I don't care which one we lynch first. After Song posted, you had more votes, therefore I switched my vote to you. Since I don't know your roles, I don't know which is more of a threat and needs to be eliminated first.

 

When do you normally get results Locke?

 

Come Day. Amegakure forgot to give me Wombat's alignment. Also, Key was the backup Coroner. Mine as well reveal that now.

 

Yeah I really don't like how Locke had supposed evidence against John, but then votes against Meesh (who while at one time to me seemed scummy doesn't have any hard core evidence against her like Locke supposedly has against John), that lends a little credence to an Ishy Locke connection... ya know wanting to take out the competition and all. But then he switches shortly after he's called on it..

 

Again, they're both scum.

 

Well, I guess I would like a refund on what you sold Ishy...

 

Unvote. Vote Ishy

 

Would you still like an explanation for my voting you Meesh?

 

Also, I'm sorry to say, but with this vote Ishy was hammered anyway...

 

Ouch. Town just lost. Well played John and scum.

 

I only count four votes on me, doesn't it take five? Can we get a VC please?

[Levity]

Ugh, why does all of the action happen while I'm not around? ;~;

[Levity]

I was going to mention the distinct possibility of two cops (one sane and one insane), if you guys do that here (since it's been done at every other forum I've played) but, uh... well, this sucks.

[amegakure]

Has been In store went out for food. Vc when im home Ishy I believe you have been Lynched but I can't check right now

[Levity]

It's all right. If he was lynched, and he happens to be town, I know what to do tonight.

 

By the way, John, I'm not mafia. A lot of the things I've said to you relate to me not really agreeing with your playstyle. I won't lie--I believe a lot of the cases you make hold little water, and since I'm inclined to believe Locke's coroner claim, this either makes you mafia or the sane cop (assuming Ish is scum) and Red the insane cop. I guess there's the off-chance that Locke is scum, but if he were, he would have lied that we've killed scum by now (all of the results he got back were town-aligned). A scum claim, in my opinion, would want to cater to the town's favor by giving them faux hope and all that.

[Levity]

Although, so many vanilla roles... I've never seen that many vanillas in one place before...

[Locke]

There were only 3 Vanillas.

 

Like I said, I think John's reaction disqualifies him from being one of two Town cops.

[amegakure]

offical vote count:

 

ishy (5) mesh song, john, soy

mesh (3) ishy, soy, locke

john (1) corrosive

 

 

ishy has been lynched: it is now night!

 

ishy look back through if you dont know how youve been lynched.

 

sorry for the delay on top of being out of the house just found out my granma is in the hospital.

[Levity]

There were only 3 Vanillas.

It seems like a lot to me because I usually play no-vanilla games, I suppose.

Also, I like John's attempt to cast more suspicion on me and, who was it... corrosive?

[John McClane]

There were only 3 Vanillas.

It seems like a lot to me because I usually play no-vanilla games, I suppose.

Also, I like John's attempt to cast more suspicion on me and, who was it... corrosive?

 

It is a lot of vanilla, primarily because all his coroner reveal needed to do was make me look like I'm lying. I am not.

 

About "casting suspicion" on you. I've done that to just about everyone this game. It is my style of play. I like to see how people respond to "interrogative" presses. Now, when Corrosive opened the day with a horrible, and quite ironic, case on me referring to me "cruising" through the game. The guy has had NO pressure. He pretends like the pressure I got on D1 never happened. Anyway, when he led with a vote on me, and you seconded it, I assumed at least one of you two were scum along with Ishy and Hoof, and figured out I was Cop somehow. In hindsight, it was an OMGUS reaction by me, my bad.

 

I made it clear in my other posts today - Ishy, Hoof, Locke and Nolder. That is your scum team. No doubt.

[John McClane]

It's all right. If he was lynched, and he happens to be town, I know what to do tonight.

 

By the way, John, I'm not mafia. A lot of the things I've said to you relate to me not really agreeing with your playstyle. I won't lie--I believe a lot of the cases you make hold little water, and since I'm inclined to believe Locke's coroner claim, this either makes you mafia or the sane cop (assuming Ish is scum) and Red the insane cop. I guess there's the off-chance that Locke is scum, but if he were, he would have lied that we've killed scum by now (all of the results he got back were town-aligned). A scum claim, in my opinion, would want to cater to the town's favor by giving them faux hope and all that.

 

I can understand your distaste for my style of play. But please don't let that over-shadow your read on this situation. I know I'm aggressive, but its just how I play. Like I said to Song, the reason I jumped all over Nolder was because he hinted at Cop. I've been scumhunting all game. One agenda, find and catch scum. What has Locke done other than lurk and hop on trains that were already established? Not exactly the play of someone with an informative role.

 

I totally disagree with the quote in bold. Locke is the last scum, I'm confident of that. The ONLY way he can get you guys to let him lead you around on a bunch of lynches is by claiming that there are multiple scum left - it is integral to his false reveal, its a numbers game - it allows him to guide a scumhunt on townies, and bring the game back into balance for him. Its a logical play by a desperate scum team... and frankly the ONLY good play they can make there.

 

This is why he claimed coroner, because his results work on a delay... after the fact. So tonight he'll NK a townie. Putting us at 6 players at the beginning of the next day phase. You lynch me, next day he says I was scum, you lynch Meesh, the next day he says she was scum... that is 2 more phases, so you also see 2 more townie NKs in there from scum. Leaving you with Locke and 1 townie in end game. Scum wins. This was the best possible play scum could make given the loss of Ishy and Hoof.

 

This is why Locke has been fear mongering about "town just lost" and such.

 

Think about it. The only scum death he reported was Nolder, the symp... a built in excuse for why I led the lynch on Nolder. Nolder wasn't a symp. He was scum hinting Cop, then false claiming Doc.

 

The only major power role Locke initially revealed was Cop, which makes me look like a liar, obviously.

 

Then he asked me a question about my role. To which I responded as I should have, given that role. Then he twists my non-answer of "backup Cop" and tells you guys that keyholder was a backup coroner, keyholder conveniently the most recent person to die... and this essentially sets a false precedent that there are backup roles. Were any of you backups? Anyone? Basically, his initial reveal had enough information to undermine me, and then he added to it as needed to keep undermining me. Please, go look at the sequence of how information was revealed. See it for what it is. Please.