(ADVANCED) Naruto Mafia GAME OVER!

[Matty boii]

I'm confused with all this N1 stuff and all these letters and numbers. I have just skimmed over all the posts after my last post, because they were too confusing and long to read ahaha xD I'm so lazy.

[John McClane]

You conveniently ignore my comment that I targeted the giv N1 and he self-protected.

 

As for the second part, I got a bit confused. Too many games get me muddled up. >.<

 

Blackhoof, can you confirm Ishy's claim?

 

Yes I can. I targeted him night 1 and he targeted himself. The doctor is the only role who can do that I have encountered.

 

 

Not sure what the point of wombat asking that question was... it doesn't verify anything. It would have been better for us if Hoof had said the name of the doc, and then Ishy could have revealed and vetted Hoof.

 

What a mess. I'm still inclined to trust my instincts and vote Meesh here, but... I don't like that Locke hasn't said crap since voting, or Soy, and I hate the way Song basically derailed the train by griping about no dialogue, and then bounced without giving any actual input.

 

In fact, VOTE SONG. I'm keeping my vote there until we hear more from her than her chiding everyone else for not "discussing" things enough.

[John McClane]

I'm confused with all this N1 stuff and all these letters and numbers. I have just skimmed over all the posts after my last post, because they were too confusing and long to read ahaha xD I'm so lazy.

 

Wicked helpful.

[mmeeshal]

I might sound a bit harsh here, but if you're going to commit to a mafia game, laziness is the worst thing to indulge in. It is absolutely unhelpful to the town and it basically makes you dead weight if you're unwilling to put the effort in that's needed to actually contribute to the game. Asking people to summarize for you is ridiculous, too, because anyone who summarizes is likely to put their own spin on things, and you might see things differently than they if you actually look at the info. Everyone needs to take the time to look at what's been presented and give thoughts.

[mmeeshal]

That was aimed at Corrosive, since I was ninja'd.

[amegakure]

correct.

 

OFFICAL VOTE COUNT:

 

MESH: (5) soy, john, ishy, hoof, locke

Key: (1) wombat

 

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[John McClane]

correct.

 

OFFICAL VOTE COUNT:

 

MESH: (5) soy, john, ishy, hoof, locke

Key: (1) wombat

 

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

 

Please re-count and show votes in chronological order. My vote is on Song at the moment.

[John E. Kelley]

Could also be scum false claiming to lure out the real doc. I wouldn't put it past Nol to be running some early gambit.

 

My first hint on D1.

[John E. Kelley]

Could also be scum false claiming to lure out the real doc. I wouldn't put it past Nol to be running some early gambit.

with only two votes on me?

seems like I'd be screwing my partners more than town at that point

and that's just assuming I'm vanilla mafia

if I was a power role they'd really get screwed over

 

there's no situation I can imagine where scum me outing doc would actually be a good deal even this early

 

Scum will always take a 1-for-1 to take out the doc or cop... And like I've been saying its only happening this early becaue I called you out on it now, otherwise I think you were breadcrumbing to do it later in the game. as I've been saying the whole time here...

^^This. Trading a vanilla scum (your scenario) for a doc on D1 would be epic win for the mafia.

 

Pretty vocal about it here as well.

[WWWwombat]

The point of my question my dear ape was to get Hoof to tie himself to Ishy. What we do now is lynch Ishy and have the coroner tell us tomorrow how he flipped. If he flips scum, we lynch Hoof. If he flips town, we lynch Meesh.

 

unvote

Vote: Ishy

[John E. Kelley]

Maybe I'm simple and just don't get it, but I still haven't figured out how you knew he wasn't the Doc on D1 Meesh.

 

And unless anyone hasn't noticed yet, she never mentioned anything about "knowing" Nol wasn't the doc until after I began to drop hints that I was the real doc. And also disappeared for the day after I asked this question to her. Just something to think about.

[WWWwombat]

Also, I think Ishy and Hoof are lying.

[John E. Kelley]

The point of my question my dear ape was to get Hoof to tie himself to Ishy. What we do now is lynch Ishy and have the coroner tell us tomorrow how he flipped. If he flips scum, we lynch Hoof. If he flips town, we lynch Meesh.

 

unvote

Vote: Ishy

 

And lose town the doc. Good idea.

[John E. Kelley]

The point of my question my dear ape was to get Hoof to tie himself to Ishy. What we do now is lynch Ishy and have the coroner tell us tomorrow how he flipped. If he flips scum, we lynch Hoof. If he flips town, we lynch Meesh.

 

unvote

Vote: Ishy

 

And lose town the doc. Good idea.

 

And in your scenario, the doc, watcher and coroner are all outed with no doc protection.

[WWWwombat]

Doc is already outed. Blackhoof has already claimed tracker.

[John McClane]

The point of my question my dear ape was to get Hoof to tie himself to Ishy. What we do now is lynch Ishy and have the coroner tell us tomorrow how he flipped. If he flips scum, we lynch Hoof. If he flips town, we lynch Meesh.

 

unvote

Vote: Ishy

 

 

Okay, why wouldn't we lynch Hoof first, then find out how Hoof flips, THEN lynch whichever of the 2 docs is lying? Would that be the same thing?

[WWWwombat]

Because if Hoof flips innocent, we get nothing.

[John McClane]

Because if Hoof flips innocent, we get nothing.

 

Okay, let me back up and make sure I'm looking at this all the way around...

 

Kill Ish first:

If Ish is town, then Hoof could be town/scum, with no real insight into which right now.

If Ish is scum, then Hoof is scum.

 

Kill Hoof first:

If Hoof is town, then Ish is town.

If Hoof is scum, then Ish could be town/scum, but is most likely scum. Right?

 

Kill Meesh first:

If Meesh is town, then Ish is scum and Hoof probably is too.

If Meesh is scum, then Ish is town and Hoof could be town/scum. (I would also add here that Song is probably scum too, given how she derailed that train.)

 

These scenarios look right to you?

[WWWwombat]

How does Hoof being town make Ishy town? Could still be Lawyer, Tailor, etc.

[WWWwombat]

That being said, I don't think Hoof is town. I guess lynching him first is an option, but I feel better about lynching between doc claims.

[WWWwombat]

Screw it. I was waiting on an answer from Amega but I'm gonna go ahead and reveal. I'm a roleblocker. I blocked Ishy N1 and Hoof N2 (right after he claimed his early results). I blocked Hoof because I thought he was lying. I don't know why Amega would have given him results when my action was still undecided. Also, shortly after I chose to block him, he amended his story to say he was blocked all along. Very suspect imo. Furthermore, I'm not sure why he would see Ishy doing anything N1 if I blocked Ishy. I asked Amega about that but haven't gotten an answer yet.

[Matty boii]

Sorry for my earlier comment, I have realised my stupidity and I have gone back and read over all of the posts :/ Vote: Wombatbecause of my reasons I gave earlier, just hopefully the colour works this time :(

[John McClane]

How does Hoof being town make Ishy town? Could still be Lawyer, Tailor, etc.

 

I guess, yeah, its not an absolute. What are those roles defined as, I don't see them on wiki... would they be self-targeting scum roles?

[John McClane]

Screw it. I was waiting on an answer from Amega but I'm gonna go ahead and reveal. I'm a roleblocker. I blocked Ishy N1 and Hoof N2 (right after he claimed his early results). I blocked Hoof because I thought he was lying. I don't know why Amega would have given him results when my action was still undecided. Also, shortly after I chose to block him, he amended his story to say he was blocked all along. Very suspect imo. Furthermore, I'm not sure why he would see Ishy doing anything N1 if I blocked Ishy. I asked Amega about that but haven't gotten an answer yet.

 

 

You are a town roleblocker?

[WWWwombat]

Lawyer makes mafia look innocent to cops. Tailor is lawyer/framer combined.