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  On 8/23/2011 at 1:36 AM, John McClane said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:27 AM, Smash said:

Could you rename yourself "ME" its makes more sense.

 

 

Hey retard - you going to hunt CL at any point? Or just continue to pick this fight and contradict your pro-town sounding comments? I guess your hoping you can just rile me up until we spam the actual points I've made into oblivion... seen scum do this with me before.

 

you can go back and read my views on the CL Im not going to get into anymore discussion with you. My vote on you is simply a placeholder because I know your not the CL ...does not mean your not recruited. Im tired been studying all day on a new trading platform learning how to use it and I think 14 hours is enough for today. Ill be more fresh tomorrow.

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Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:59 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:27 AM, John McClane said:

 

Yup I got 100 gold from you Slats. I bought a sword, and I'm going to kill the bajeebus out of someone tonight with it...

welp if that's true.. i might as well stop playing now...

 

nice to meet ya'll

 

hey hey now you cant be pullin a smash get your own emo bullshit. :) I got a good connection for ya :cool:

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 2:31 AM, Smash said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:59 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:27 AM, John McClane said:

Yup I got 100 gold from you Slats. I bought a sword, and I'm going to kill the bajeebus out of someone tonight with it...

welp if that's true.. i might as well stop playing now...

 

nice to meet ya'll

 

hey hey now you cant be pullin a smash get your own emo bullshit. :) I got a good connection for ya :cool:

 

mentally repped

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:34 AM, John McClane said:

 

What do you think of JF80?

 

He's said he is not one of the remaining Lannister bannermen, he's given NO indication of being a survivor, and he is by FAR the most uncharacteristically quiet of the JN crowd... his first excuse was a computer screen, his second preseason football.

 

 

Actually I mentioned I was a survivor early on in the game. I don't feel like going all the way back and bringing it back up.

Posted

I will simply put this out there. For me to play any tricks right now would only further muddle the mess.

 

Consider that I am much more valuable to any side alive and my lynch would be worthless. For one, consider that the heavier my purse is, the more inclined I am to listen to who to vote for. Secondly, because of this, making me cult or a banner-man is pointless in that I will vote for who appreciates me the most.....in coin. Take that for what its worth.

 

So, if you want to test this, make me an offer. I'll vote anyone who isn't me.

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 2:48 AM, Myndrunner said:

I will simply put this out there. For me to play any tricks right now would only further muddle the mess.

 

Consider that I am much more valuable to any side alive and my lynch would be worthless. For one, consider that the heavier my purse is, the more inclined I am to listen to who to vote for. Secondly, because of this, making me cult or a banner-man is pointless in that I will vote for who appreciates me the most.....in coin. Take that for what its worth.

 

So, if you want to test this, make me an offer. I'll vote anyone who isn't me.

 

 

I don't understand what your talking about with the bolded sentence.

 

You can't be "made" into a bannerman, and why would the Starks pay for your vote right now...? This whole post exhibits a gross misunderstanding of everything we've learned about the setup thus far.

 

If survivors don't lose the ability to be bribed when converted, then bribing you is not a viable means of proving you haven't been converted... not only that, but its conceivable that any role can be bribed because I don't think we've had anyone tell us anything to prove otherwise.

Posted

CTM, any reason for your vote? Or are you just wasting bandwidth? Because other than that vote you've made no mention of me whatsoever.

 

And I don't think Mynd is a candidate for CL, and if he is, then we have less to worry about with the cult than we expected, since he didn't show up for the first week. He's a good shot for an early game recruit though. Or, far less likely, a lannister bannerman. So a good shot either way.

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:59 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 1:27 AM, John McClane said:

 

Yup I got 100 gold from you Slats. I bought a sword, and I'm going to kill the bajeebus out of someone tonight with it...

welp if that's true.. i might as well stop playing now...

 

nice to meet ya'll

 

Baby.

 

The game isn't all about you, ya know...

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 2:26 AM, Far Dareis Mai said:

Do you really think he's going to use it on you? He's already posted that he thinks you are a Survivor. And as for before, I am a Survivor, and it still didn't make sense to me. I don't see how as a Survivor you should be worried about offing House members when right now eliminating Cult should come first. The Houses will kill each other off easily enough after. But that's how I see it. :P

Are you even reading or just deferring to the big dumb ape to get the current situation.. Let's review

 

1) The ape has said about 20 times he wants to vote me today

2) This whole dustup started cause I disagreed w/ape saying that booboo was a good lynch, reason being speed lynching lannisters is counter productive at this point, they should be dealt with at night like crusher was

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 4:20 AM, Barmacral said:

CTM, any reason for your vote? Or are you just wasting bandwidth? Because other than that vote you've made no mention of me whatsoever.

 

And I don't think Mynd is a candidate for CL, and if he is, then we have less to worry about with the cult than we expected, since he didn't show up for the first week. He's a good shot for an early game recruit though. Or, far less likely, a lannister bannerman. So a good shot either way.

Because I kind of agree myund oesn't make sense as CL unless smash was one of his first converts... Mynd is just kind of creepy in general, which is making me suspicious of him gut wise...

 

I'm voting you because I have no idea what you are and I think we should be getting information about people now. You seemed like a good place to start

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 11:21 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 4:20 AM, Barmacral said:

CTM, any reason for your vote? Or are you just wasting bandwidth? Because other than that vote you've made no mention of me whatsoever.

 

And I don't think Mynd is a candidate for CL, and if he is, then we have less to worry about with the cult than we expected, since he didn't show up for the first week. He's a good shot for an early game recruit though. Or, far less likely, a lannister bannerman. So a good shot either way.

Because I kind of agree myund oesn't make sense as CL unless smash was one of his first converts... Mynd is just kind of creepy in general, which is making me suspicious of him gut wise...

 

I'm voting you because I have no idea what you are and I think we should be getting information about people now. You seemed like a good place to start

 

Haha... I knew you'd end up doing a 180 on this. Knew it.


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  • I case/vote Mynd in night phase, make it clear that he and Dude and a couple others are my top suspects.
  • Smash is first to imply that I am a top conversion candidate.
  • Then, you start trying to convince people everything I say is pro-cult and that I'm a great cult convert.
  • You make up a lie about me trying to line up a lynch on Crusher.
  • You kill Crusher.
  • You fail-shoot me.
  • You vote Mynd to start the day, ironically the guy I was casing/voting when you decided I was cult.
  • You keep egging me on, along with Smash, to create a big ol' ruckus... get people disinterested, then...
  • Boom. You do a 180 on Mynd and decide now he "doesn't make sense" as CL, without a rationale for that statement.

Posted

CHan when I tracked Mynd he did not visit anyone which tells me hes not a survivor and possibly one of the scenarios below.

 

 

1. hes a lannister with no role at all or slight chance hes back up killer for Lannister and holstered since he knew I would probably track him since I was pushing for his lynch.

 

2. hes the cult leader and did not recruit because he knew I would track him that night. I was voting him and pushing hard to get him lynched so it would make sense for him not to recruit especially since no cult have been caught yet. Better to do that then to get caught red handed especially since some were pressuring him.

 

I think this vote makes the most sense at this time because of the possibilities associated with it and I think its better than taking a wild guess because it seems the other ideas people have had are not getting run up with votes except for slats who is still only at L6 hardly pressure there.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Mynd

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 11:51 AM, John McClane said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 11:21 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 4:20 AM, Barmacral said:

CTM, any reason for your vote? Or are you just wasting bandwidth? Because other than that vote you've made no mention of me whatsoever.

 

And I don't think Mynd is a candidate for CL, and if he is, then we have less to worry about with the cult than we expected, since he didn't show up for the first week. He's a good shot for an early game recruit though. Or, far less likely, a lannister bannerman. So a good shot either way.

Because I kind of agree myund oesn't make sense as CL unless smash was one of his first converts... Mynd is just kind of creepy in general, which is making me suspicious of him gut wise...

 

I'm voting you because I have no idea what you are and I think we should be getting information about people now. You seemed like a good place to start

 

Haha... I knew you'd end up doing a 180 on this. Knew it.


  •  
  • I case/vote Mynd in night phase, make it clear that he and Dude and a couple others are my top suspects.
  • Smash is first to imply that I am a top conversion candidate.
  • Then, you start trying to convince people everything I say is pro-cult and that I'm a great cult convert.
  • You make up a lie about me trying to line up a lynch on Crusher.
  • You kill Crusher.
  • You fail-shoot me.
  • You vote Mynd to start the day, ironically the guy I was casing/voting when you decided I was cult.
  • You keep egging me on, along with Smash, to create a big ol' ruckus... get people disinterested, then...
  • Boom. You do a 180 on Mynd and decide now he "doesn't make sense" as CL, without a rationale for that statement.

it's idiocy like this that i find so hard to ignore..

 

As I said, Smash said Mynd didn't leave his house N2... You said cult leader recruits at night, how did he recruit without visiting someone?

 

gfy

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:07 PM, Smash said:

CHan when I tracked Mynd he did not visit anyone which tells me hes not a survivor and possibly one of the scenarios below.

Smash a survivor ouldn't leave his house at night unless he had a successful steal, considering mynd's activity.. i find that probably..

 

again, i have no clue what the dude is, but lynching him without pressuring anyone is dumb... which is why the ape is for it.. he likes dumb

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:12 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:07 PM, Smash said:

CHan when I tracked Mynd he did not visit anyone which tells me hes not a survivor and possibly one of the scenarios below.

Smash a survivor ouldn't leave his house at night unless he had a successful steal, considering mynd's activity.. i find that probably..

 

again, i have no clue what the dude is, but lynching him without pressuring anyone is dumb... which is why the ape is for it.. he likes dumb

 

ok then how did I get a result on you ?

Posted

Bumping some posts - here is where I "voted" Mynd in night phase. Making it abundantly clear who I wanted to go after, and making this play as a deterrent to being converted. In sub-sequent posts, I point out that Crusher is most likely Lannister, and should not be our focus.

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

So, all that said - Mynd needs to be lynched on the same premise as JIFBoo. He went Stark hunting last day phase voting Smasherino, which means the odds are that Mynd is Cult or Lannister - again, its a win/win.

 

Vote Mynd

 

This is a response I gave to Sharrow, regarding suspects - note my comments about Crusher. Questions I asked were all answered when we saw he was paymaster. Now that we know that DPR was not a house member, so I'm surprised he tipped being paid early on.

 

@DPR how much did you get paid for your vote?

 

The bolded sentence below shows very clearly that I'm pushing us away from hunting Lannister players. In fact I hinted at eventually needing to hunt from within the Starks. Cult would be stupid to convert a Lannister.

 

The blue sentences below are where I give my shot list for who I think we need to pursue.

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 11:58 AM, John McClane said:

Was he first? In that case yeah, then I'd lean Lannister before Cult with him. He was also one of the first to vote Smash on the take now that I think about it. Him being the first to get paid off like that makes NO sense... he hasn't cased anyone, hasn't pressured anyone, why would Crusher be one of the first people paid off for his vote? Also, why would he say he's been paid off?

 

DPR I believe was the other one that was very early in tipping a bought vote...

 

If I had to guess right now, I'd say that JF80, DPR and Crusher are all Lannister... at this point its probably safe to assume that Cult sees this too, and they are recruiting from the pool of "potential family aligned" that looks to be Stark, no?

 

Vic, Nae, Slats, Alys, Dude and Mynd all represent that I would consider a good starting place. JIF's case that Slats was cult is intriguing, probably not likely for JIF to make a bus play on a teammate given the state of the game for the Lannisters. So Slats is probably Stark or Cult, and regardless of this being right, Slats might be considered one of the top conversion candidates from JN, up there with Vic, Sharrow and CTM. Might be time to just lynch from the pool of "most likely conversion targets" and see if we can't nail cult...

 

I feel like I struck a nerve, because Smash was all over me after this...

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:01 PM, Smash said:

McClane dont you consider yourself a conversion candidate ?

 

Then the dude over-defended in night phase...

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 2:38 PM, the dude said:
  On 8/21/2011 at 5:18 AM, John McClane said:

24) the dude - no read, keeps showing up right after lynches

 

this one irritates me; not the fact that you're pointing it out, mcclane, and not that you find it suspicious, but the fact that it's true haha. i'm on Eastern Time and get home from work around 4:30ish. for the first couple days when i got back there was a good 2 hours of catching up to do before i could even potentially post anything useful (ie having read everything). not a complaint, just explaining myself.

 

and yeah, twice now i've had the crummy luck of finding a lynch already settled heh. everyone seems to be most active just before i'm in a position to jump in. obviously that's nobody's fault but it's certainly unfortunate timing.

 

but anywho, i've mentioned it before and won't belabor it. the only thing i'm driving at is, i see myself beginning to pop up on potential lynch lists, and i'd ask that if i end up high on the vote count at some point and i haven't checked in, it just means i'm still stuck at the office, where they monitor net use (yes, they suck roughly 8 kinds of scrote and i hate them all. believe me. vic, i feel for ya cuz i'm 29 and stuck at a job i detest too. i help insurance companies make more money which is probably up there on the evil-scale). so i'd appreciate a chance to rebut if i end up high on the vote count. it's mighty hard to change people's minds once a vote gets up to a certain point, but i'd at least like the chance.

 

deal, guys :smile:?

 

Agree with Smash eh?

 

  On 8/21/2011 at 3:15 PM, the dude said:

smash has a point here though; mcclane's been more useful and astute that i originally would have credited him for, but he's loud and has been a pretty big boon for the survivors so far; the cult's gotta be paying attention and sooner or later they're going to want him as the field narrows. he's very visible, yes, but it's not like anyone's really gunning for him so he's probably a pretty secure choice.

 

not saying we go after him just yet because like i said he's been pretty useful so far for the good guys, but smash is right, we should pay attention.

 

This here is the most glaring offense the dude committed... flattering me. Reeks of Smash and/or CTM coaching him up on how to get me off his back.

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 1:20 AM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 12:38 AM, the dude said:
  On 8/21/2011 at 8:34 PM, John McClane said:

Hmmm... interesting that you found it necessary to defend to this extent...

 

heh, couldn't figure out a way to say it shorter without it seeming off-hand :cool: and having said it once i won't have to explain again heh

 

as to my other post, i give you credit as a decent player based on the success rate i've seen here. you know what you're talking about and it looks like we're all pretty solid on you being a survivor at this point - anyone thinking you're not is grasping at the thinnest of straws.

 

but the other side here of you being good is that if you do get converted, you'll probably be pretty good at concealing it too. just sayin'. if you're a good ally you're probably a dangerous enemy.

 

Compelling.

 

You sound like you were given this advice, "Flatter the monkey and he'll leave you alone." by one of your JN team mates.

 

There isn't a bad player amongst the lot of JN folks that came over for this game, hence the reason they were invited into the game.

 

Now, here is CTM saying we should be hunting Cult. Even though if you read any of what I posted above, you will see that is exactly what I'd been doing - only expressing that JIF being Lannister was a consolation prize, that was still good for the STark win condition. If you are going to be wrong about a cult suspect, at least be wrong while taking out a Lannister - I'd think a Stark would understand this.

 

As you can see I once again point at Myndrunner as cult, and CTM continues to contort the situation to make it look like I'm not cult hunting...

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 2:01 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 12:17 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 11:01 AM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 3:56 AM, CTM said:

meh, i really don't think yesterday was a big success for anyone but starks (even them it's questionable)... lynching lannisters is a waste of time at this point.. we should be looking for cult

 

I think I've made this point ad nauseum, but here goes again.... if we see someone bringing a case against a Stark, its a pretty big indication that they are Lannister, Cult or a clueless survivor. The third being least likely. Anyway, its a win/win to lynch that person if the worst case is removing a Lannister (their cause is lost) and the best case is they are Cult. That's the way I see it at least.

I don't understand you're point in making this post, i've read you're opinion and I don't agree. Did you think that your repeating your assertion would make me reconsider "oh, well the ape thinks it was good so it must be true cause he's really smart" ...neigh

 

As i said when I quoted booboo, he's either lannister or cluless survivor.. I don't think cult has any reason to target starks specifically like that.. it's basically game over for the lannisters

 

I get what you are saying, however, I guess where we differ is that you aren't considering that any cult could push a Stark hunt like that to appear Lannister... which is kinda what I think Myndrunner is doing.

 

You don't really appear to be using your brain at all this game.

 

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 2:40 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 2:33 PM, John McClane said:

 

Talk about redundancy.

 

"you have no brain ape"

 

"we should be hunting cult"

 

We are hunting Cult, and in JIF's situation he was voted primarily as a cult suspect - that being the best case scenario for us - worst case he was obviously not a Stark, so it was a low risk lynch. What are you not getting about that? Thickheaded jackass.

if you thought cult would coe out and push a stark lynch you're too dumb to talk to..

 

l8r

 

Then Mr. we should be hunting cult leader, shoots at me, shoots at Crusher and votes Mynd... the case I was making all along.

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 3:15 PM, CTM said:

There... i shot crusher.. (maybe I wasn't the only one) ... now hopefully we can avoid playing the ape's game today and maybe lynch the ape..

 

 

for now

 

vote MYND

 

 

And now? Now you see he completely reversing field and pushing us away from a Mynd lynch because "it doesn't make sense".

 

 

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:10 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 11:51 AM, John McClane said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 11:21 AM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 4:20 AM, Barmacral said:

CTM, any reason for your vote? Or are you just wasting bandwidth? Because other than that vote you've made no mention of me whatsoever.

 

And I don't think Mynd is a candidate for CL, and if he is, then we have less to worry about with the cult than we expected, since he didn't show up for the first week. He's a good shot for an early game recruit though. Or, far less likely, a lannister bannerman. So a good shot either way.

Because I kind of agree myund oesn't make sense as CL unless smash was one of his first converts... Mynd is just kind of creepy in general, which is making me suspicious of him gut wise...

 

I'm voting you because I have no idea what you are and I think we should be getting information about people now. You seemed like a good place to start

 

Haha... I knew you'd end up doing a 180 on this. Knew it.


  •  
  • I case/vote Mynd in night phase, make it clear that he and Dude and a couple others are my top suspects.
  • Smash is first to imply that I am a top conversion candidate.
  • Then, you start trying to convince people everything I say is pro-cult and that I'm a great cult convert.
  • You make up a lie about me trying to line up a lynch on Crusher.
  • You kill Crusher.
  • You fail-shoot me.
  • You vote Mynd to start the day, ironically the guy I was casing/voting when you decided I was cult.
  • You keep egging me on, along with Smash, to create a big ol' ruckus... get people disinterested, then...
  • Boom. You do a 180 on Mynd and decide now he "doesn't make sense" as CL, without a rationale for that statement.

it's idiocy like this that i find so hard to ignore..

 

As I said, Smash said Mynd didn't leave his house N2... You said cult leader recruits at night, how did he recruit without visiting someone?

 

gfy

 

Its an account of things that happened... and me calling you out for reversing field on Mynd. If idiocy is calling bs when I see it, then I'm okay with that.

 

You are regurgitating statements I've already made to Smash about his "case" on Mynd regarding conversions at night, and mynd not leaving on N2. The fact I've already made these points, voted Mynd at night, got called cult for reasons you made up, then watched you lead the day with a vote on mynd and now I'm watching you reverse field pretty much justifies all the arguing.

 

You are a cult pig.

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:12 PM, CTM said:
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:07 PM, Smash said:

CHan when I tracked Mynd he did not visit anyone which tells me hes not a survivor and possibly one of the scenarios below.

Smash a survivor ouldn't leave his house at night unless he had a successful steal, considering mynd's activity.. i find that probably..

 

again, i have no clue what the dude is, but lynching him without pressuring anyone is dumb... which is why the ape is for it.. he likes dumb

 

Considering you lead the day off with the first vote on Mynd, I find this statement absurd.

 

I'm trying to pressure more people right now that the rest of the game collectively. Lying pig.

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:29 PM, CTM said:

shoot me tonight you stupid gorilla

 

Why? You should be lynched as a potential convert - I'm shooting my top suspect for CL.

 

Feel free to stuff your own sword down your throat though.

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:15 PM, Smash said:

also chan Im for pressuring people but no one seems to be pressuring

 

Pressure Vic with me.

Unvote

Vote Vic

 

Also, tell me you don't see right through CTM's "pressure people" crap, when he flew out the gate voting Mynd. Do you have any thoughts on CTM's 180 regarding Mynd?

Posted
  On 8/23/2011 at 12:07 PM, Smash said:

CHan when I tracked Mynd he did not visit anyone which tells me hes not a survivor and possibly one of the scenarios below.

 

 

1. hes a lannister with no role at all or slight chance hes back up killer for Lannister and holstered since he knew I would probably track him since I was pushing for his lynch.

 

2. hes the cult leader and did not recruit because he knew I would track him that night. I was voting him and pushing hard to get him lynched so it would make sense for him not to recruit especially since no cult have been caught yet. Better to do that then to get caught red handed especially since some were pressuring him.

 

I think this vote makes the most sense at this time because of the possibilities associated with it and I think its better than taking a wild guess because it seems the other ideas people have had are not getting run up with votes except for slats who is still only at L6 hardly pressure there.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Mynd

 

If this was your theory, you should have tracked him twice.

 

But then lying about not getting results on a dead guy wouldn't have been an option... so I digress...

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