[DPR MAFIA] The Cannibal Wars - Talya, MN & Verbal win!

[Smash]

Because Pandy is on a mason team with me.  That's how I know he's not scum. ;)

 

[glow=red,2,300]CTM.[/glow]

 

Well my timing sucks :(

[Toy and Minion]

and nae, arnt we all supposed to have begun roleless?

 

This pretty much cinches it for me.

[loki redfern]

Missions

 

Missions are an option and are not required to continue the game. However, they are the only way to gain roles.

 

As soon as night ends and day begins, everyone will have the option of “running a mission”. For a mission to run, three players (any three) must volunteer to take part. Volunteers will be first come, and will post in a separate line

 

 

 

i.e the only role that should already be in is the cult leader, and kivams (assuming kivam is telling the truth since noone has counters saying they got a role)

 

so unless kivam has already chose you (in which case he should have revealed that so the mafia or cult leader wouldnt know about you)

 

[glow=red,2,300]panda[/glow]

[glow=blue,2,300]naeann[/glow]

 

[Naeann]

Mason is not a role it's an alignment. :-*

[loki redfern]

im willing to reconsider the blue vote on panda's lynch depencing on the coronor report, but incase i dont get back before the night is over its going to stand for now

 

[Kivam]

Im going to have to unvote [glow=red,2,300]CTMJets[/glow] and [glow=red,2,300]Vote Pandy[/glow]

 

I was content to leave my vote on CTM but since it took so long for people to vote (which is probably a good thing rather than speed lynching) It gave me time to look at both players and its obvious CTM is trying to help the town by coming up with Ideas so I find it hard to vote for him at this point.

 

You probably want to glow "unvote" as well. ;)

 

We don't generally do that where he usually plays  ;D

[Toy and Minion]

Taken from mafiascum.net/wiki

 

"Masons are a group, usually all on the Pro-Town side, that know each other to be innocent. They can communicate with each other at Night, if they choose, but otherwise usually have no special abilities. In one variation of the Mason role, the Masons cannot reveal that they are Masons to the town through roleclaiming. Instead, they must find other ways to defend each other."

 

:P

 

Regardless, I concede the point.  Mason, Mafia, Cult.

 

My only question is, how useful to the town are you now that you have revealed yourselves?

[loki redfern]

Mason is not a role it's an alignment. :-*

 

haha omd, i knew you were going to say that  .. so your saying your not on the innnocent alignment side?  ..

 

mason is a role. innocent  is an alignment, and thats what masons are. ..ususaly, i.e., on top of alignment.

 

also why would dpr make it a role to be given out, since kivam just got it ..so two mason roles is what your saying?  ... seems like over kill too me

 

any way mason is not an aligment and if it is , then your not with the rest of us, and hence are a ..whats the word now? cult, or mafia ..i forget

 

 

[Kivam]

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]  We have a rash of Mason claims over on myndjack.  Yet only 1 proposed team here.  Odd.  Nae, who are your other teammates?

[Toy and Minion]

Oh, and [glow=red,2,300]unvote panda[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]CTM[/glow]

 

The clocks winding down.  Bandwagon is just how it goes Day 1.

 

Mason is not a role it's an alignment. :-*

 

haha omd, i knew you were going to say that  .. so your saying your not on the innnocent alignment side?  ..

 

mason is a role. innocent  is an alignment, and thats what masons are. ..ususaly, i.e., on top of alignment.

 

also why would dpr make it a role to be given out, since kivam just got it ..so two mason roles is what your saying?  ... seems like over kill too me

 

any way mason is not an aligment and if it is , then your not with the rest of us, and hence are a ..whats the word now? cult, or mafia ..i forget

 

Kivam did not get a mason role.  He got the Neighbor role.  Related, but different.

 

And Mason is a role as Mafia and Cult are roles.  You are aligned as Cult or Mafia.  You're aligned as guilty.  Hope I made my stance clear.

[Smash]

Taken from mafiascum.net/wiki

 

"Masons are a group, usually all on the Pro-Town side, that know each other to be innocent. They can communicate with each other at Night, if they choose, but otherwise usually have no special abilities. In one variation of the Mason role, the Masons cannot reveal that they are Masons to the town through roleclaiming. Instead, they must find other ways to defend each other."

 

:P

 

Regardless, I concede the point.  Mason, Mafia, Cult.

 

My only question is, how useful to the town are you now that you have revealed yourselves?

 

Well this helps me stand by my last vote. Could DPR have used different rules for the Mason Group ? I guess will find out soon enough If he Mod Kills Nae.

[Toy and Minion]

And Mason is a role as Mafia and Cult are roles.  You are not aligned as Cult or Mafia.  You're aligned as guilty.  Hope I made my stance clear.

 

Fixed.

[loki redfern]

i still say its a role not an aligment, its an added ability on top of the being innocent. and it was clearly stated that there are no roles

 

and mafia is an alignment. alignment is who you win with. innocents will when all the mafia are gone, mafia win when they can control the voting, andget a night kill, and the cult, is a solo, who can recruit isnted of killing. masons are innocents who can talk to each other of thread

[Toy and Minion]

If Mafia is an Alignment, then so is Mason.  Mason is just an innocent Mafia (without night kill and pro-town generally)

[Kivam]

The fact that we have nobody else claiming Mason suggests to me that the games are not identical, and that Nae may be using that game to false claim here and cover for Pandy.  There is one way to check.

 

[glow=red,2,300]vote Pandy[/glow]

[Talya]

Well that has thrown the spanner in the work, just when I was going to change my vote.

 

I think it would have been naive for Nae to reveal if she was Mafia. She would then be saying that she was mafia too and we would have two mafia out in the open, which would be a bad move. However it they now couls easily be target for the cult to be recruited.

 

It could be possible that this was handed out at the beginning. It has not advantage apart from talking to each other outside the thread (that is is they have been told they can do this, they may not have). It maybe they only know each other and that will only be useful at the beginning of the game. When the Zombie starts to recruit, they can not be sure of one another after that.

 

I will keep my vote where it is, as I feel that this isn't a fake claim!

[Naeann]

Well I guess we shall soon find out eh, Kivam?  Will say alot about you and Loki that's for sure.

[Toy and Minion]

Pretty much agree with everything Talya just said.

[ctm123456]

A Mason... been caught up in what's going on over at MyndJack (where I am a mason, along with most of the game). DO we have 2 or more mason groups here as well. If we do, the plan should be the same. Vet the masons, and then lynch everybody else. It's a no lose proposition unless the scum are spread out amongst the masons or there's other curveballs coming..

[Talya]

It would be nice to think it was that simple CTM, but knowing DPR, it won't be, lol.

[loki redfern]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Alignment

 

"An alignment is a faction in a game of Mafia. Any true game of mafia will have an "informed minority" and an "uninformed majority". Most of the time these are referred to as the Mafia and Town, respectively. There are also Cults and people like the Serial Killer who are in alignments of their own "

 

mason is a role, usualy on the side of the town.  a mason group could technically have players from the town or mafia side. but they would still each win with the town or mafia respectivly. some one who is mafia could not also win with the town (unless you make it so but were talking generally here)

 

so if there are mason groups, i blame dpr :P

[ctm123456]

It would be nice to think it was that simple CTM, but knowing DPR, it won't be, lol.

Lol... it seemed simpler when there was only 2 mason group claims at MyND.. the third one has me confused..

[Toy and Minion]

*sigh*

 

Loki, Mason is on the same level as Mafia and Cult.  

[Naeann]

No it isn't Dsage.  I have been in numerous games where Masons were an innocent group that could talk to each other outside of the game.

[loki redfern]

A Mason... been caught up in what's going on over at MyndJack (where I am a mason, along with most of the game). DO we have 2 or more mason groups here as well. If we do, the plan should be the same. Vet the masons, and then lynch everybody else. It's a no lose proposition unless the scum are spread out amongst the masons or there's other curveballs coming..

 

that would work, if there wasnt a cult. revealed mason members will be prime targets for recruitment.

 

i would also sugest we lynch panda to  find out if there are mason groups , and that naeann NOT reveal anyone else in the mason cell, if there is anyone else, if she is telling the truth about this. but from what dpr has told us im not trusting her or panda till i havea corenor report from one of them, or dpr says there are masons