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Were they helping or was it part of the Pattern?


Matrim DeLaneous

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maybe they stuffed him with every memory of every one who ever came to them there would have to be a lot of battle knowledge in all of that  :D

 

So every single person who entered the Tower has similar lifestyles to Mat? Because all the memories he gained involve either battle, trickery or luck.

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So every single person who entered the Tower has similar lifestyles to Mat? Because all the memories he gained involve either battle, trickery or luck.

 

Why not, just like Phariah mentioned - quote below - That these are they type of person who would enter TOG. Now if you look at it this way, they took certain memories/sensations/emotions, and then discarded those that they did not want and you could possibly end up with what mat got..

 

warriors / adventures / soldiers / explorers ,the type of person RJ said would have entered ToG

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maybe they stuffed him with every memory of every one who ever came to them there would have to be a lot of battle knowledge in all of that  :D

 

So every single person who entered the Tower has similar lifestyles to Mat? Because all the memories he gained involve either battle, trickery or luck.

 

The vast majority of the memories concern battle, yes, but trickery or luck? No.

 

RJ explained that Mat got the memories he did because the men who traveled through the Tower of Ghenjei were mostly soldiers -- people with courage, who are used to risking their lives.

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maybe they stuffed him with every memory of every one who ever came to them there would have to be a lot of battle knowledge in all of that  :D

 

So every single person who entered the Tower has similar lifestyles to Mat? Because all the memories he gained involve either battle, trickery or luck.

 

The vast majority of the memories concern battle, yes, but trickery or luck? No.

 

RJ explained that Mat got the memories he did because the men who traveled through the Tower of Ghenjei were mostly soldiers -- people with courage, who are used to risking their lives.

 

Yes... but don't forget the people who entered through the doorways.  We know some people entered the Eelfin (fox)doorway due to the human skin / leather straps they were wearing. We also know that the Aelfin (snake) doorway was at least being used by the leaders of Mayene.

 

 

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Yes... but don't forget the people who entered through the doorways.  We know some people entered the Eelfin (fox)doorway due to the human skin / leather straps they were wearing. 

 

 

 

The skins would rather have been collected through TOG, since the Eelfinn doorway was stored away in Rhuidean for quite a few years before Moiraine had it brought to Cairhien. After all, we have not seen the slightest hint of mat having the memories of any Aiel in his head, and Aiel would have been the only ones with access to the Eelfinns doorway.

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Yes... but don't forget the people who entered through the doorways.  We know some people entered the Eelfin (fox)doorway due to the human skin / leather straps they were wearing. 

 

 

 

The skins would rather have been collected through TOG, since the Eelfinn doorway was stored away in Rhuidean for quite a few years before Moiraine had it brought to Cairhien. After all, we have not seen the slightest hint of mat having the memories of any Aiel in his head, and Aiel would have been the only ones with access to the Eelfinns doorway.

 

Indeed, Mat's memories span approximately 500 years after breaking to Artur Hawkwing's time if I remember correctly

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Yes... but don't forget the people who entered through the doorways.  We know some people entered the Eelfin (fox)doorway due to the human skin / leather straps they were wearing. 

 

 

 

The skins would rather have been collected through TOG, since the Eelfinn doorway was stored away in Rhuidean for quite a few years before Moiraine had it brought to Cairhien. After all, we have not seen the slightest hint of mat having the memories of any Aiel in his head, and Aiel would have been the only ones with access to the Eelfinns doorway.

 

Fair and good point.  But, we still ahve the Snake / Aelfin doorway.

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We don't know whether the Aelfinn doorway was in use at the time Mat's memories are from. Mayene certainly didn't exist at the time.

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