Viewpoints in Gathering Storm

[Thorum]

The Wheel of Time: The Gathering Storm (300k words. 21 viewpoints. Chunks outlined and written by Mr. Jordan already.) 16 months' date=' pulling extra hours.[/quote']

 

Twenty-one viewpoints?

 

Let me make a list of possibilities:

1 Rand

2 Mat

3 Perrin

4 Moiraine

5 Egwene

6 Elaida

7 Elayne

8 Thom

9 Tuon

10 Galad

11 Demandred

12 Graendael

13 the general of Arad Doman

14 Logain

15 Taim

16 Nynaeve

 

And that's about all I can think of (stretched out to the max).

 

Who's the other five?

[Nightstrike]

I hope they are:

17 Mesaana

18 Verin

19 Aviendha

20 Narishma

21 Cadsuane

 

[General Cauthon]

22 Moridin

23 Shaidar Haran

24 Fain

[Shard]

25 Tam Al'Thor

[Luckers]

I think it would either be Taim, or Logain. Not both. And I'm guessing it'll be Logain. He needs some build up.

 

As for the rest I like Nightstrikes--though I'm not sure about Narishma--it will depend on what 'follows after' means, and how important he'll be. In particular though i want a Mesaana PoV during the attack on the Tower. Prefarably one of her getting leashed. Verin's too could be done by another--say Egwene or someone else within the Tower.

 

General Cauthon's ones arn't nessasarily important for the first third of aMoL.

 

Ones people havn't suggested.

 

Pevara--i think a Hunter PoV is almost essential for the Gathering Storm.

Lan--Another essential.

Alviarin--again, with the Hunter plotline coming to a boil--essential.

[Shard]

You know that sounds like an awesome punishment for a Forsaken to be leased and made damene. I really want to see several or at least one publicly executed.

[Thorum]

Would the tower be attacked in this part already? I thought that would wait... Same with Lan, Verin, Cadsuane, Moridin, Narishma, Fain, Pevara, Gawyn, ...

 

Alviarin is so totally demoted, I don't really believe in that any more. Just like the Shaido.

 

Shaidar Haran? A Myrddraal POV would be nice, BUT...

 

Aviendha I didn't mention because I don't see her playing a role apart from helping Rand, Logain, and Ituralde against Graendael (which ALL would have more important pov s)

 

Yes, I see Taim AND Logain both: the BT problem will not be solved from the beginning of the book: Taim building influence, Logain massing troops in Arad Doman.

 

The rest I like.

[Majsju]

Taim is too early, I think. My guess is that we will not get a POV from him until the showdown at the BT, just to keep us in the shadow (yes, I went there ;D) about what he is really up to for as long as possible.

 

Someone I think is very likely to have a POV that is not yet mentioned is Tarna. I think she will have a fairly important part to play in solving the Egwene vs Elaida situation.

[Theodor89]

My Guess:

 

1. Mat [Essential]

2. Rand [Essential]

3. Perrin [Essential]

4. Elayne [The Coronation]

5. Egwene [Essentail]

6. Rodel Ituralde [How the raid against Seanchan plays out]

7. Pevara or Tamra[Asha´man bonding]

8. Doseine or Seaine [black Ajah Plot]

9. Alviarin [black Ajah Plot]

10. Lan [The Golden Crane Plot]

11. Graendal or Aviendah [showdown in Arad Doman]

12. Demandred [With a book title like that we need another forsaken]

13. Tuon or a Seanchan general [The book must have a Seanchan viewpoint]

14. Cadsuane [The interrogation with Semirhage among other things]

15. Elaida [Egwene issues]

16. Faile [Perrin issues]

17. Byar [Perrin issues and it would be cool to see the reunion from his viewpoint]

18. Logain [black Tower plot]

19. Verin [Valeres Horn Plot]

20. Morgase [Galad and Talanvor issues]

21. Min or Nynaeve or Alivia [We need to see Rand from another Viewpoint with him]

22. Siuan [Viewpoint for the rebel Aes Sedai]

23. Gawyn [Egwene issues]

 

Gahh 23 >:(?!?

 

Hmm two viewpoints got to go to make it 21... But everyone seems essential to me, cant decide  :-\...

[Shard]

Honestly I could see us not seeing Elayne at all in this book...

[Luckers]

Would the tower be attacked in this part already? I thought that would wait...

 

Actually I believe the Tower needs to be attacked as soon as possible. That's a lot of stuff to get through, and none of it involves the Last Battle--which is the key defining aspect of the aMoL cycle.

 

If I were Brandon I would use the prologue to deal with the Egwene dinner, and have the Seanchan being sighted from the Towere somewhere within the first five chapters. Have Egwene ratified as total Amyrlin by the end of the Gathering Storm--as in a result of the Aes Sedai dealing with the Seanchan attack and so forth--reunification, standing against the Seanchan, so on.

 

Of course there is a more functional reason. For starters we've seen in KoD that the attack is already underway. Brandon intends to play this chronologically (not divide PoV's and represent different aspects of the story in different books like George R. R. Martin). That presents timeline requirements.

 

 

Alviarin is so totally demoted, I don't really believe in that any more. Just like the Shaido.

 

Alviarin is not out of the game, like the Shaido. And she's not demoted either--she has Shaidar Haren's mark, she's still head of the Black Ajah, and she has her own plans. Thats been built up since CoT. Something is coming between her and the Hunters.

 

Aviendha I didn't mention because I don't see her playing a role apart from helping Rand, Logain, and Ituralde against Graendael (which ALL would have more important pov s)

 

Which, funnily enough, is why i think Aviendha will have the PoV--and will play the integral roll against Graendal.

 

Consider--Aviendha is a HUGE character. She is one of Rand's loves, has been around since book 3--but she's done next to nothing. Literally, next to nothing. She has the skills, she has the strength, but she's achieved nothing. Even Min got a knife into Semirhage. Now is the perfect time for her to shine.

 

Yes, I see Taim AND Logain both: the BT problem will not be solved from the beginning of the book: Taim building influence, Logain massing troops in Arad Doman.

 

I don't see the BT issue occuring till later on--it'll begin either in the epilogue of the first book, or the prologue of the second, and the actual confrontation definately won't occure till the second book.

 

Someone I think is very likely to have a POV that is not yet mentioned is Tarna. I think she will have a fairly important part to play in solving the Egwene vs Elaida situation.

 

Agreed. I actually suspect she will end up Egwene's Keeper.

[Thorum]

Yes, I see Taim AND Logain both: the BT problem will not be solved from the beginning of the book: Taim building influence, Logain massing troops in Arad Doman.

 

I don't see the BT issue occuring till later on--it'll begin either in the epilogue of the first book, or the prologue of the second, and the actual confrontation definately won't occure till the second book.

 

Then why don't you see them both having povs? They are quite separate till this confrontation.

 

Great thing on Aviendha, btw  ;)

[Shard]

I think Moraine will also be in the first book, I don't see Mat messing around and putting this off. Especially if he told Rand, which he won't but still I can't see him going to Rand before getting Moraine back. I actually thought that the WT unification would wait until the next book but if we have both that will be some action packed book! Now if we finish that off with a Grendal hunting or at least Moggy or Halima this book just MAY take the place as favorite in the series over tFoH and tSR.

[Luckers]

Then why don't you see them both having povs? They are quite separate till this confrontation.

 

Well within my idea of what would be happening with the Black Tower in this book--well there wouldn't be a great deal. Basically i think it will be lead in. This book will be setting up for the confrontation. Probably only a single PoV. If it's Logain, the PoV will be him seeing something suspicious, something that will set him on the path. If it's Taim it will be him setting something in motion.

 

That's why I suggest Logain. If the PoV's are limited there are other things for Logain to be doing. Taim, on the other hand, is perfect at this stage in his mystery. Besides, we really need to get to know Logain in this book. What I would do is have around three Logain PoV's in the book, the final one being when he sees whatever it is that leads to the 'blood and fire'.

 

With Taim i suspect Maj is correct. Until the confrontation at the Black Tower revealing Taim's thoughts would be bad for the story. Keep him a mystery till then, bring him out after.

[Shard]

Mystery? Don't we know that Taim is working for the DO with that line "Let the Lord of Chaos Rule"?

[RobertAlexWillis]

I think the mystery is not in where his loyalties are, but in exactly how he will strike.

[Shard]

*nods* That makes sense then.

[luftstark]

Will we see in tGotS (what a horrible abbreviation):

 

Morgase and Elayne reunion?

 

Rand and Tam reunion?

 

Rand and Aviendha?

 

Perrin and Byar?

 

Egwene and Gawyn??

 

this could point to a few particular POVs...

[Hallow]

Heres what I hope will happen:

 

Prologue: Elaynes coronation. Egwene's serving dinner for Elaida. Galad seeing Perrins band or some such. Itrualde meeting up with Bashere, Logain and Bael, this through 2 POV's, first Itrualde then Bashere or Logain.

 

Main part:

*Seanchan attack.

*Mat saving Moiraine, and some mysteries around Noal explained.

*Black ajah hunters story come to a climax (Really, its been going on without alot og progress for a while).

*Perrin meeting with Galad, Byar, Dain and that other guy, probably resulting in some huge scene between Byar and Perrin and then Galad gets reuinted with Morgase. Also hoping that Perrin will travel back to Rand with Alliandre (and Masema).

*Something being unfolded at the Black Tower, either through one of the Aes Sedai there or through Taim's.

*Some cool interegation scenes with Rand, Caddy and Semi.

*Some action in Arad Doman, preferably involving Graendal

*Demandred PoV on something.

 

Epilogue:

*Perrin meeting Rand again.

 

Thats just my opinion on matters :D

[Jethro]

And I'm guessing it'll be Logain. He needs some build up

 

Agreed 100%. In my opinion hes the only Ashaman that deserves a Chosen on his kill count. I think the fact that Rand grouped Logain, Bashere and Loial together was excellent. I like that trio.

[Thorum]

I

Nobody said Moiraine.

 

It was in my original list :D

 

Yep, on number four even.

[Jethro]

My eyes are bad sorry. I'll edit.

[ChildofLight]

I doubt this would happen, but I would be interested in a Finn point of view.  It would be a nice change of pace, I think.

[Bela]

Thom is deeply in need of another POV. If I am reading tGotS and see a Thom POV, I may just cry. Then I will read it.

[mb]

The viewpoints would depend on the events that would happen.

 

Moiraine's rescue I think might be one event.  The trip to the tower might alter between Mat & Thom; the actual rescue might alter between Moiraine and one of those two.  An account of what happened on the other side of the doorway might likely be given in Moiraine's thoughts.

 

Moiraine's & Thom's marriage might be another event.  If the actual event is shown, that might alter between Moiraine & Thom.

 

Egwene's rescue I think might be another event.  That likely might alter between Egwene and her rescuer.  Reuniting with the rebels, probably Egwene or one of the leaders.

 

Elayne might give accounts of various battles and/or struggles.  Elayne's coronation I think would be in Shifting Winds.

 

Masema's & Rand's meeting might be another event.  The trip to the location might alter between Perrin & Faile.  The actual meeting might alter between Rand & Perrin.

 

An account of Semirhage's captivity might be given through Semirhage and/or through one of her captors.

 

Black Tower battle might be another event.  That might alter between Logain & Taim, and/or perhaps several of the Aes Sedia.

 

A fight against Graendal might be another event.  That might alter between Graendal & her fighter/fighters.