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[Dark Justice]

I know how you play Mynd. But it still makes me see red Every game. It is usually, like I said, on day one. Anyway. I am done arguing with you.

 

You have still not answered me why you would want me to out if i was finder or healer...

[mmeeshal]

Yeah... I don't know what to think.

 

I mean, I understand, DJ, that Mynd is being provocative.  I get that.

 

But, Mynd, I do see the point of what you're doing...

 

And, unfortunately, DJ, you're kind of acting suspicious....

 

So, I'm going to

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]Dark Justice[/glow]

[Myndrunner]

I know how you play Mynd. But it still makes me see red Every game. It is usually, like I said, on day one. Anyway. I am done arguing with you.

 

You have still not answered me why you would want me to out if i was finder or healer...

 

I was trying to figure out why you would have a question about your role, which was giving you an out on why you were busy sending PM's today.  Since you deny that you were communicating with the Mod, then you must be sending them to someone else.  Besides, I happen to know that there are multiple finders in this game....and I happen to be one of them.  Healers, I am not so sure about.  

 

Why does my play make you see red?  

[Dark Justice]

I have not at all denied PMing Danya. Maybe I have. Maybe I have not.

I didnt start of al emotional about this at all. I defended an accusation (something I have now realliced was wrong. How could I ever think defending yourself against accusations was a sign of scum)

You annoy me, and I got angry.

Im not the first, and I wont be the last, innocent that you lash out at just cause you think you see something others dont.

The Vem/Mynd example is a perfect example by the way. Being 100% sure someone is evil leads down a bad road. Lashing out leads down a bad road. You were pushing his buttons, and he pushed back. You both died. You were both innocents... Id think youd learn.

 

The reason I see red, is the same reason as many others. You just jump to conclutions, and are 100% certain you are right. And then you start to push. And if people get annoyed, or push back they must be scum. Im not scum. And you are pushing me. and pushing me.

 

If I was scum, dont you think I would have played it calmer and try to raid of the storm? Instead I go into this with all I can, cause I am tired of seeing you getting innocents lynched due to you being 100% sure someone is scum. I would have gone agains you like this pretty much no matter who you went against if it were the same accusations.

 

And Like I said. you give me too little credit. I wouldnt send out PMs and argue with you if I was scum.

[Myndrunner]

Didn't you say that you were done arguing with me? 

 

You are making this personal when it is not.  It is quite simple really.  You overreacted to my accusations, more so than you normally do.  The truth is if you were innocent, you would have dismissed my initial post as nothing more than my usual game.  This time, you took it hard. 

 

Also, your latest defense is under the assumption that I am innocent.  I am, but you seem to be sure of it despite your vote on me.  You say that I should have learned from my last game where Vemy and I were both innocent and we both died.  You can only be sure that I am innocent if in fact you are indeed mafia.

 

My vote stands. 

[Dark Justice]

I have not said you are innocent. I have absolutely no idea if you are or not.

 

And for arguing, well, If you push me, I push back.

 

Can we call it done now?

[Toy and Minion]

whoa, I go to breakfast, get my hair done, buy a book and come home to find 7 pages?!?

 

(got my role, Miss :-*)

 

I've only scanned through, but it seems Mynd is up to his old tricks again.  Will now do a thorough read-through.  Just letting you all know I'm here. :)

[Myndrunner]

The Vem/Mynd example is a perfect example by the way. Being 100% sure someone is evil leads down a bad road. Lashing out leads down a bad road. You were pushing his buttons, and he pushed back. You both died. You were both innocents... Id think youd learn.

 

DJ, what is the purpose of using this example exactly?  A true innocent would accuse me of being mafia and trying to get an innocent lynched, but you seem to be arguing that I am an innocent trying to get another innocent lynched.  Again, the only way you would know that I am innocent is if you are Mafia.

[mcs0083]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! *squish* :o

[Dark Justice]

Ok. First of all. Ive had a little readthrough, and I realice I did over react. Im sorry about that. However, I still think I had reasons.

 

Mynd. 1/2 the games you are in you are so certain someone is evil, and go after them. with all your force. you dont have to be innocent or evil to go after anyone. You just have the tendency to do it anyway. sometimes you are right. but most of the time you are not. You just get blinded by your own sertainty.  Im not saying you are innocent. Im not saying you are mafia. I dont know.

 

However how you went against Talya last game, has some similarities to this game.

 

And. For the example I used, is how two innocents can go against eachother with really bad results.

Why would a true innocent accuse you of being mafia? You have some reasons to think Im evil. I am not, and I dont feel I need to defend myself firther. Doestn mean I think you are mafia. Doesnt mean I think you are innocent.

[Myndrunner]

So, are your mafia friends telling you to chill out now?

[Dark Justice]

This is eccatly what makes me so annoyed. You are so certain, even though you are blatantly wrong.

If you would at least just admitt that most of the times you go out after someone, like you are against me, you are wrong. That would be nice.

[Myndrunner]

I don't think I am wrong here, but there is one way to find out.  If we lynch you and you turn up innocent, then I am indeed "blatantly wrong" but I'm pretty sure you will turn up mafia.  You even admit yourself that you overreacted to my accusations, so how am I way off base here? 

 

You acted scummish and then acted more scummish by trying to cover up how scummish you were.  I chalk this up to being the first time that you have been mafia in quite a while, and it threw you off your game.

 

My vote stands on Dark Justice. 

[Dark Justice]

Im not trying to do any such thing. I did overreact. I should have just ignored you. Ill do that from now on. When I get lynche, and turn up innocent, I hope you stand by the agreements you made with Talya. Tommorrow you get lynched.

[Toy and Minion]

LMAO

 

*wipes tears from his eyes*

 

Mynd...not working this time.  You forget, I modded when you were guilty, we had a lot of conversations.  You can't pull the wool over these eyes.

 

DJ, I feel for you man, but you did get a little over-emotional there.  I can understand though, I've done the same, recently.

 

Now, I'm not sure of anything, but I do know that Mynd is sure of himself.  And that can be dangerous.

 

Hmm...still going to hold off my vote.  I want to see how things play out.

[Dark Justice]

I did get over emotional. But its not the first time. And its not the first time someone gets over emotional in confrontations with Mynd.

[Myndrunner]

I did get over emotional. But its not the first time. And its not the first time someone gets over emotional in confrontations with Mynd.

 

Doesn't mean its not scummish behavior, DJ.  I find that you contradict yourself when you admit to overreacting yet when I call you out on it, you say its somehow my fault.  Maybe you just were surprised that you were Mafia this game and when I pointed my stink-finger at you, panic set in. 

 

DSage, that is true and I am not trying to pull any wool over anyone's eyes.  In fact, you of all people should know my knack for skirting around in the gray area of the rules, sometimes dropping hints about roles and such, even when we are not allowed to directly quote PM's.  Plus, you have to agree that the odds of me being mafia are slim since I was mafia in the last two games.  DJ, on the other hand, has made it very clear that he hasn't been mafia in quite a while. 

[Hybrid]

All right, as promised.

 

I voted myself just to see what reactions it would draw out.  Both Thorum and Mynd drew attention to it, but not in the way I'd hoped for.  So nothing I can draw from that. 

 

Fortunately there's something else interesting going on, and that's the whole interaction between Mynd and DJ.  It doesn't start with Mynd attacking DJ for the PM, it starts with Mynd making the suggestion that anyone who is allowed to communicate off-thread use quick topics.  That suggestion is putting me on guard.  Why make that suggestion if he's innocent?  Then he and DJ really go at it.  Again, this is putting me on guard, because part of our strategy last game was to have a few people point their fingers at each other while the others hide in the background.

 

And finally, Mynd brings up this point briefly twice:

Also, the odds of me being mafia in this game are rather slim since I have just been mafia in back 2 back games.

Which is completely baseless.  The odds of you being mafia are the same as anyone else being mafia assuming roles are assigned randomly.

[Hybrid]

Also, I no longer hide my online status.  As you can no doubt tell.  ;)

[Dark Justice]

One last thing before I go offline. Mynd. You draw this reaction out of people. Like said. Look at what you did with talya in the last game. And with Vem in Suras. One you were innocent. One you were scum. This is what you do. I should not have let myself get cought up in it. But you made sure I stayed in once I got my hot hat on.

 

And like Hybrid says. the % is the same..

Plus, you have to agree that the odds of me being mafia are slim since I was mafia in the last two games.  DJ, on the other hand, has made it very clear that he hasn't been mafia in quite a while.

 

Are you trying to say this makes me scum. Cause I have not been so in a long time?

Are you trying to say you are innocent cause you have been scum so many games lately?

 

[Myndrunner]

We assume the roles are random, and maybe they are; however, the odds are against me being mafia three times in a row.  Plus, I have already admitted to being one of the finders in this game.  There is another clue I've dropped that I am sure those of us who are innocent will have caught by now.  

 

The fake arguments from Dirty Cops Mafia were epic...but also unrepeatable.  It is quite natural for everyone to question the alignment of anyone I engage in an argument in this game.  I do ask you, however, to consider the overreaction of DJ here.  I am flattered that people believe that I somehow have Jedi Powers and convince people to lynch innocents but its just not true.  I will point like a hunting dog at scummish behavior....but it is up to the majority to decide for themselves if they agree or not.

 

My vote remains on Dark Justice.  

[Toy and Minion]

Glad you caught that, Hybrid.

 

Indeed, I have played around 10 games of mafia, at least.  I have been mafia once MAYBE twice (it's a little foggy for me right now).  Whether or not you have been mafia before does not do anything to your chances of being mafia in another.  (Unless the Mod does it that way, which we have no reason to believe in this game)

 

Also, I no longer hide my online status.  As you can no doubt tell.  ;)

 

Which means absolutely nothing.

 

Plus, I have already admitted to being one of the finders in this game.

 

One of the bigger reasons I distrust you.  It makes no sense for you to claim Finder this early, with no real danger to yourself.  Unless you're a symp, hoping to get an easy kill and it doesn't really matter if you die.

 

Just speculation.

[peacesells]

Yeah... I don't know what to think.

 

I mean, I understand, DJ, that Mynd is being provocative.  I get that.

 

But, Mynd, I do see the point of what you're doing...

 

And, unfortunately, DJ, you're kind of acting suspicious....

 

So, I'm going to

 

[glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

[glow=red,2,300]Dark Justice[/glow]

 

In all this fray I think meesh kinda slipped this in there unnoticed.  States she doesn't know what to think but votes anyway?  Apparently the Jedi Mind trick worked here  ;D ;D ;D

 

Anyway..I'd love to hear more on Meesh's argument for this vote.  

 

 

[peacesells]

Plus, I have already admitted to being one of the finders in this game.

 

One of the bigger reasons I distrust you.  It makes no sense for you to claim Finder this early, with no real danger to yourself.  Unless you're a symp, hoping to get an easy kill and it doesn't really matter if you die.

 

Just speculation.

 

I'll add to what Dsage states here in that, While you have claimed finder..you haven't claimed which kind of finder you are.  Mafia type finders is a possibility. 

[Myndrunner]

DSage & Peacesells, I revealed as a Finder because my role would only be valuable if I were THE Finder, not just A Finder.  I happen to know that there are multiple finders in this game, and of those that I am aware of, I am perhaps the least reliable finders due to the variance in my viewings.  

 

I'm still waiting for one of you to find my Easter Egg that proves not only my innocence but also your own.