More powerful than the sword that cannot be touched...

[Guest The Thin Inn Keeper]

I doubt highly if the ring Graendal has is the Ring of Tamyrlin only because she would have mentioned it and if Sammael had of seen the ring he would not have just left it there lying about so she could take it.

Yep. And if she's been wearing it when meeting with the other FS, then surely, someone would have seen it.

 

... Unless she's disguised it, but that's a little too convoluted for me.

Likely he did not recognize it as an angreal attuned to women and just thought it was a trinket.

I doubt it. I'd find it a little tough to take if Sam just kept a powerful female ring (that he didn't recognise) around because it looked nice. If it's the ring, I think Sam recognised it, it was afterall a sign of office.

when Graendal found it she figured out it was an angreal (which might suggest that she herself knows the making of angreal or at least the concepts) and took it.

Well, here recognising it would be a piece of cake. She'd just have to pick it up.

 

[Mr Ares]

It was different than this age where giving someone an object that would make them able to channel super powerfully would be next to insane.

Indeed, it is very sane in the Age of Legends to give someone whose position has nothing to do with strength in the Power a sa'angreal or angreal for no particular reason, regardless of whether or not they might ever actually need to do anything that needed a sa'angreal. Why not just give them to people who need to use them when they need to use them, rather than as a symbol of office which would largely render its usefulness redundant?

[Sabio]

Speaking of the fat man angreal, RJ ever leave a clue as to who took it?

[Luckers]

The Ring of Tamyrlin seems to me to be something more than just a political symbol, like a crown or something.  I think that it was a ter'angreal, possibly a sa'angreal although the making of angreal suggests that angreal/sa'angreal that were useable by men and women were rare.  Several times we hear "it is said that there are angreal that can be used by both men and women" so I always wonder if that's a hint toward the Ring...

 

Forgive me, but i dont believe i ever recall reading a comment about angreal usable by both men and women. Could you cite these references?

 

That being said, once again, its illogical that the symbol for the First Amongst Servants to be an angreal or sa'angreal. The Age of Legenders placed no value in strength; they praised  social achievement as the form for establishing their hierarchy, why would they mark a position of political achievement with a glorified weapon? The First Amongst Servants served no functional role, outside of his political agenda... certainly no warlike role, in which strenght in the power might be beneficial. No, i very much doubt the Ring of Tamyrlin served any form of practical One Power related service.

 

 

[Hybrid]

Speaking of the fat man angreal, RJ ever leave a clue as to who took it?

 

I don't believe so.  It may become important later on, say if Taim has it, or it may just vanish out of sight.  I don't know that the Aes Sedai can recognize male angreal, so they may have just gotten rid of it.

[Luckers]

Rand conciders the possibility that one of the Aes Sedai pocketed it as a trophy, in which case we may see it turn up in Tar Valon amongst the sisters that escaped Dumai's Wells--could have an impact on the Gawyn plotline.

[Sabio]

I think it will be important later.  Always considered Taim finding it but not sure if he picked it up if he would know it for what it was.  Course if he ever saw Rand with it he might have a clue. 

[Guest Dreadlord]

I have a feeling Taim knows about angreal and such like, he would have learned from Demandred and Moridin I reckon