Masema

[aevogt]

Still alive at the end of KoD, what will happen to him do you think?

 

Based on his actions, he certainly deserves the gallows but will Rand send him there?

[eol]

i think that once periin drags him in front of rand he will be used. rand has gotten very good at that. eventually i think he and his army will be used as battle fodder in the first battles of TG, not sent intentionally to die but i dont know if they, as a collective, have the will to stand up to hordes of shadowspawn.

[Charlz Guybon]

i think that once periin drags him in front of rand he will be used. rand has gotten very good at that. eventually i think he and his army will be used as battle fodder in the first battles of TG, not sent intentionally to die but i dont know if they, as a collective, have the will to stand up to hordes of shadowspawn.

Masema's army was basically annihilated by the Shaido, and a  good thing to, they were Aridhol light.

[Luckers]

On thing that could play out interestingly is the 100,000 ex-gai'shain. They are demoralized, ripped from their houses and lives and families, no sense of direction or purpose and beaten into a instinctive submissiveness--throw a fanatical preacher into their midst and they will explode.

 

In fact the only way that i could see that not happening given everything above is if Faile take personal control of them first. She is the only one with a claim to their hearts strong enough to hold them against Masema's retoric.

[aussie_ashaman123]

that sheinaran soldier in the prologue of TGH could be Masema, hes following orders to sow more chaos and blame it all on rand

[aussie_ashaman123]

I like that idea luckers.

 

Has anyone read Redemption of Althalus? Theres a scene where soldiers hide behind a flock of sheep and attack from behind. The sheep are so frightened they stampede over the enemy. I picture that with the wetlander gai'shan

[Guest Dreadlord]

I vow I shall never read that book.

[Majsju]

that sheinaran soldier in the prologue of TGH could be Masema, hes following orders to sow more chaos and blame it all on rand

 

Or rather Ingtar, a Shienarian soldier who was a confirmed DF...

[Jambo]

Since it's Masema's fault that Aram went trippy and died, I was kind of hoping that Perrin would lose his cool and be done with him already. I think he's too dangerous to be left alive and Perrin could say he died by accident so Rand would never know.

 

I tried to save him Rand, really, I did. How was I supposed to know he couldn't swim in ice cold water with a stone tied to his feet?  ;)

[aussie_ashaman123]

Since it's Masema's fault that Aram went trippy and died, I was kind of hoping that Perrin would lose his cool and be done with him already. I think he's too dangerous to be left alive and Perrin could say he died by accident so Rand would never know.

 

I tried to save him Rand, really, I did. How was I supposed to know he couldn't swim in ice cold water with a stone tied to his feet?  ;)

 

I threw that axe away, and what do you know, he stepped out from behind a tree and it hit him!

[RAND AL THOR]

I'm sick of Masema. I just want him outta the story. I thought he may even be a darkfriend because he was spreading so much 'chaos' (hemhem) but Perrin says the smells from him indicate madness. So perhaps he really is on the side of good but insane all the same. His contact with the Seanchan has also not yet been explained. That also prompted me to consider him a darkfriend. DIE MASEMA!!

[Dreadlady]

Since Masema seems to be a John the Baptist figure, maybe we'll see his head on a platter one day soon.

[Dreadlady]

Let me ammend that.. an EVIL John the Baptist figure.

[aussie_ashaman123]

Since Masema seems to be a John the Baptist figure, maybe we'll see his head on a platter one day soon.

 

Masemas head on a platter, served to Tuon?

[Guest Dreadlord]

The Masema situation smells of Demandred to me.

[benr]

Perrin describes Aram's smell as "eager" going in to meet Masema, Perrin hoping he (Aram) wasn't ready to draw his sword.  Perrin sensed most of his party as wary or subdued.  It seems to me that Aram was unstable himself; his way of life had been uprooted, and he latched on to Perrin and Faile as a way of re-establishing some basis for existence.  He was primed to be swayed by the madness of Masema; always eager to draw the sword and fight.  His transference of loyalty from Perrin to Masema was well done by RJ; it is a well developed plotline.  (On the other hand, maybe he just got sick of the Perrin/Faile situation and went off the deep end, like some of the rest of us were ready to.)  He was an Aiel in microcosm, in a strange sort of way...his switch from the Way of the Leaf to dangerous killer was much quicker than the whole Aiel society, though.  In the end, not even a remnant of him could be saved.

[42Bonzo88]

    I know through the series that The Prophet has done some terrible stuff and definetly deserves a fate worse than death, but he is also The Prophet of The Lord Dragon. I could see Perrin bringing him to Rand and Rand giving him his head.

 

    "Masema, the time has come. We will attack through Tarwin's Gap on the morrow. I need my first to be at the gateway at Dawn."

 

    Masema and his band would camp out where the gateway is to be built to make sure he's the first through because Masema is a soldier first and foremost and his deepest hatred is to the trollocs and fades.

[aevogt]

But Masema arbitrarily decides things.

 

He now hates Aes Sedai, rather than the deep respect that most borderlanders have for them.  A feeling he used to share.  He says "these women do what only the Lord Dragon...blash blah blah...may do" 

 

Rand has never, in any way shape or form even come close to saying he is the only one "allowed" to channel the One Power. 

 

So where is Masema getting his "gospel" of the Lord Dragon.  Either Perrin is right and he's so far around the bend he can't even see the curve, or his mind has been altered by the Shadow, i.e. one of the Chosen.  The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

 

Either way, I believe the WO's with Perrin were right and his finest hour would be on the bottom swing of the ax and what's left of his followers right behind him.

 

 

[Charlz Guybon]

    I know through the series that The Prophet has done some terrible stuff and definetly deserves a fate worse than death, but he is also The Prophet of The Lord Dragon. I could see Perrin bringing him to Rand and Rand giving him his head.

 

    "Masema, the time has come. We will attack through Tarwin's Gap on the morrow. I need my first to be at the gateway at Dawn."

 

    Masema and his band would camp out where the gateway is to be built to make sure he's the first through because Masema is a soldier first and foremost and his deepest hatred is to the trollocs and fades.

He doesn't have an army anymore, the Shadio destroyed it.