Gualiha Ameaisoan(SP) true dragon reborn

[Sauron]

first off sry for butchiering the guys name but i have a crazy theory as some of you know RJ has said that the dragon has more purposes than simply fighitng the dark one. so i was wondering could it be possible that the dragons purpose as Guearah amesiaon was to provide the catalyist for the rise of Hawkwings empire, and also they do call him the Second Dragon instead of just a false dragon... any thoughts on this

[Davian93]

Guaire Amalasian was almost certainly born to form the catalyst for Hawkwing's empire as you suggest.  He was also most likely a ta'veren for a period to accomplish this goal.  However, he was and is a false dragon that is not connected to the Dragon soul occupied by LTT and then by Rand in the 3rd Age.  He was called the 2nd Dragon because for a time most people did indeed believe him to be the Dragon Reborn because of the amazing successes he had in conquering nations.

[Ko´bal]

Are we sure that Guaire Amalasam isn´t connected to the other dragons? Really sure? On several occations LTT speaks about the other guy, and that happens before Rands encounter with Moridin. Who is this other guy? I´ve wondered that for a long time and when I saw this thread it just occured to me that Guaire might be the answer. If not, who could it be? Any thoughts?

[Tyrell]

The other guy is Moradin

[Ko´bal]

Yeah, now.

 

But earlier than the encounter between Rand and Moridin LTT speaks of another guy. Of course I don´t remember the book or chapter but I think it´s somewhere around when Rand gets captured. Something like "who are you? who are the other guy?"

[CUBAREY]

here is a thought, according to Semihridge (sic) LTT also had a voice in his head in the Age of Legends (and not part of his madeness). Does LTT still hear this earlier incarnation of the Dragon?

[BrainFireBob]

*pricks bubble*

 

Semirhage didn't say that.

[The Lost One]

Here is some info:

 

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org:8008/characters/hist/guaire.html

[Davian93]

They should edit that link.  There were only 13 AS in the Stone when Guaire Amalasian besieged it not 30.

 

Also, the other guy was Moridin.

[Cadsuane]

His name is Guaire Amalasan. =)

[moosetracks]

Yeah, now.

 

But earlier than the encounter between Rand and Moridin LTT speaks of another guy. Of course I don´t remember the book or chapter but I think it´s somewhere around when Rand gets captured. Something like "who are you? who are the other guy?"

 

I reread that not too long ago, and I don't remember LTT's wording exactly but I think in both cases LTT was referring to the same person - LTT thinking that he was real, and wondering who Rand was.  At least, that's how I read it...

 

 

[Naudran Grimnir]

Yeah, now.

 

But earlier than the encounter between Rand and Moridin LTT speaks of another guy. Of course I don´t remember the book or chapter but I think it´s somewhere around when Rand gets captured. Something like "who are you? who are the other guy?"

 

LTT only mentioned "the other guy" after Rands encounter with Moridin