S3E7 - Goldeneyes

[Elder_Haman]

32 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

I don’t have enough faith in these writers to foreshadow the next scene, let alone the end of the series.

That's crazy. They have set up, then paid off a whole bunch of stuff. Your distaste for the show is playing with your objectivity here.

[Mailman]

On 4/13/2025 at 12:56 PM, Skipp said:

I think Maksim dying might be a solid motivator for Alanna's big book plot. 

 

Along the same subject I wonder what the plan for Lan is.  Will Alanna take that role as well, it seemed to be hinted at in season 1.

The Wheel of Time's Taylor Napier takes us inside filming the Battle of the Two Rivers (Exclusive)

 

One of the answers from an interview with Napier you would think he would be in a good position to have some inside knowledge.

 

WiC: I'm so curious to see how the show navigates, the stuff that the readers know, may or may or may not be coming for Alanna and Maksim, we'll say. Obviously a lot of us are rooting for the show to get more seasons. If The Wheel of Time is renewed, what's an aspect of Maksim that you'd really like to explore more in the future?

TN: You know, I got to do so much of it this season with the fighting. That was one of the things that I really wanted to explore. I think moving forward, I'd love to see kind of what we start in season 3 blossom a little bit more. Alanna is such a leader, and she's such a badass, and I want to see Maksim step into that more. Not that he's not kind of a badass, but it's sort of like a painful crawl to get him there. And so I'd like to see him just step up as much as possible going forward and be the number two she needs, or the general that she needs in her army.

[Mirefox]

53 minutes ago, Mailman said:

The Wheel of Time's Taylor Napier takes us inside filming the Battle of the Two Rivers (Exclusive)

 

One of the answers from an interview with Napier you would think he would be in a good position to have some inside knowledge.

 

WiC: I'm so curious to see how the show navigates, the stuff that the readers know, may or may or may not be coming for Alanna and Maksim, we'll say. Obviously a lot of us are rooting for the show to get more seasons. If The Wheel of Time is renewed, what's an aspect of Maksim that you'd really like to explore more in the future?

TN: You know, I got to do so much of it this season with the fighting. That was one of the things that I really wanted to explore. I think moving forward, I'd love to see kind of what we start in season 3 blossom a little bit more. Alanna is such a leader, and she's such a badass, and I want to see Maksim step into that more. Not that he's not kind of a badass, but it's sort of like a painful crawl to get him there. And so I'd like to see him just step up as much as possible going forward and be the number two she needs, or the general that she needs in her army.

One Great Captain was already killed, so General Maksim stepping into that role completely makes sense in this show…

[Mirefox]

13 hours ago, Elder_Haman said:

That's crazy. They have set up, then paid off a whole bunch of stuff. Your distaste for the show is playing with your objectivity here.

Yeah, with the subtlety and finesse of a jackhammer.

[Elder_Haman]

2 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

Yeah, with the subtlety and finesse of a jackhammer.

Again, you lack even a pretense of objectivity. I can't take your opinions seriously.

[Samt]

On 4/15/2025 at 6:14 AM, Mailman said:

The Wheel of Time's Taylor Napier takes us inside filming the Battle of the Two Rivers (Exclusive)

 

One of the answers from an interview with Napier you would think he would be in a good position to have some inside knowledge.

 

WiC: I'm so curious to see how the show navigates, the stuff that the readers know, may or may or may not be coming for Alanna and Maksim, we'll say. Obviously a lot of us are rooting for the show to get more seasons. If The Wheel of Time is renewed, what's an aspect of Maksim that you'd really like to explore more in the future?

TN: You know, I got to do so much of it this season with the fighting. That was one of the things that I really wanted to explore. I think moving forward, I'd love to see kind of what we start in season 3 blossom a little bit more. Alanna is such a leader, and she's such a badass, and I want to see Maksim step into that more. Not that he's not kind of a badass, but it's sort of like a painful crawl to get him there. And so I'd like to see him just step up as much as possible going forward and be the number two she needs, or the general that she needs in her army.

That’s a hell of a question to ask about a character that effectively doesn’t exist in the book.

[Mirefox]

Why was Loial even in Emond’s Field to begin with?

[Samt]

2 hours ago, Mirefox said:

Why was Loial even in Emond’s Field to begin with?

He’s there in the books.

[Mirefox]

16 minutes ago, Samt said:

He’s there in the books.

Yes, but I keep being told we can’t compare these to the books.  As far as the show story and the show logic, why was he there?

[Elder_Haman]

3 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

Yes, but I keep being told we can’t compare these to the books.  As far as the show story and the show logic, why was he there?

He and Perrin have been together since the end of S1

[Jaysen Gore]

7 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

Yes, but I keep being told we can’t compare these to the books.  As far as the show story and the show logic, why was he there?

they travelled there through the ways, and he was the guide. he could have left immediately.

 

none of the book drama with Faile tricking him, but same approach

[Mirefox]

My point, though is that he said he wanted to chronicle history in the making (my words, not his; I’d have to go back for the direct quote), but then he doesn’t follow the Dragon Reborn, he doesn’t follow the blower of the Horn, he followed a guy who went home because he was homesick…

[Elder_Haman]

24 minutes ago, Mirefox said:

he followed a guy who went home because he was homesick…

Goldeneyes though. Also, Perrin may just have asked him offscreen given the need to use the Ways and his generally helpful demeanor. 

[Skipp]

1 hour ago, Elder_Haman said:

Goldeneyes though. Also, Perrin may just have asked him offscreen given the need to use the Ways and his generally helpful demeanor. 

He was also suffering from the Longing, Perrin did mention in episode 2 that they should have gone to a stedding first."  Clearly they were talking about going to a stedding in general as part of their travels.

[Mailman]

Did we get reports in the show that the two rivers was under attack?

[Mirefox]

13 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Did we get reports in the show that the two rivers was under attack?

I don’t think so.  That would have been good motivation for Perrin but I think he just wanted to go home because he missed it.

[Mailman]

2 hours ago, Elder_Haman said:

Goldeneyes though. Also, Perrin may just have asked him offscreen given the need to use the Ways and his generally helpful demeanor. 

Why did Perrin need to use the ways?

[Skipp]

18 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Why did Perrin need to use the ways?

Quickest way to get to the Two Rivers while also avoiding the eyes of the Shadow that had just attacked them the previous night.

[Mailman]

13 minutes ago, Skipp said:

Quickest way to get to the Two Rivers while also avoiding the eyes of the Shadow that had just attacked them the previous night.

Quickest is not really valid as the danger of the ways outweighs usage without dire need.

Avoiding the eyes is a bit strange as he is heading to a place they would definitely look for him after losing him.

[Elder_Haman]

1 hour ago, Mailman said:

Why did Perrin need to use the ways?

Well, he did know that he murdered the father of a guy who knew him as “Two Rivers” and that dude seemed a little unhinged at their last encounter. 

[Mailman]

7 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

Well, he did know that he murdered the father of a guy who knew him as “Two Rivers” and that dude seemed a little unhinged at their last encounter. 

Unhinged was a fairly reasonable reaction considering his father had just died.

Also if that was his concern should he have not just returned to the 2 rivers directly from Falme. I mean he really had nothing to do in Tar Valon at all.

 

[Elder_Haman]

3 minutes ago, Mailman said:

Unhinged was a fairly reasonable reaction considering his father had just died.

Also if that was his concern should he have not just returned to the 2 rivers directly from Falme. I mean he really had nothing to do in Tar Valon at all.

 

Maybe he wanted to spend time with his friends. Maybe Moiraine wanted to keep them all together. Maybe going to Tar Valon and using the Waygate there was still faster than traveling by land from Falme. 
 

Not everything has to be spelled out. 

Edited April 17 by Elder_Haman

[Mailman]

1 minute ago, Elder_Haman said:

Maybe he wanted to spend time with his friends. Maybe Moiraine wanted to keep them all together. Maybe going to Tar Valon and using the Waygate there was still faster than traveling by land from Falme. 
 

Not everything has to be spelled out. 

Not everything has to be spelled out but you can't also just ignore everything that does not make sense.

 

It cannot be possible that travelling to Tar Valon and then waygating was faster as the whitecloaks from Falme beat them to the 2 rivers by a significant margin.

[Elder_Haman]

1 minute ago, Mailman said:

the whitecloaks from Falme beat them to the 2 rivers by a significant margin.

Maybe the fact that they had horses had something to do with that. 

[Mailman]

5 minutes ago, Elder_Haman said:

Maybe the fact that they had horses had something to do with that. 

Maybe Perrin could not get a horse, maybe.

 

Why did he not take the Waygate from Falme then?

 

Look you are going to continue to come up with implausible reasons on the why lets just stop.