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I mean I think the side of BFG's point that I agreed with (and hence instinctively read it at) wasn't that Verb wasn't going through solve motions but that they didn't really make sense in terms of actually solving.

 

Basically in terms of figuring out which of me/BFG/Chris is town if he's really that convinced that Tiinker and Ben have to be villagers.

 

He's certainly playing very bold for a wolf and I don't know what's normal for him.

 

Where in any of my posts did I give you the impression that I wasn't trying to figure out which of you was the other townie?  Hell, didn't I even address that at some point today?

 

 

There's been a lot of interaction. There were a few things like

 

"Here's the big question: if you are town, why aren't you jumping at the potential solve of BFG/Clov? Didn't you even mention it before (somebody did)? Why not question my town reads and make sure you agree, and we mechanically lock this game? Why aren't you doing that?" ~which was bold but I had devoted like 200 posts prior to working on BFG and Clov I'm not sure why town!you would expect town!me to suddenly reverse ship because a player whose alignment I wasn't sure of had just called my top suspect a solid villager

 

"I never said you were avoiding the thread.  You're the top poster, and have been closely involved in every aspect - I'm not saying otherwise.  I am merely wondering why you decided to joke about whether you could take my post seriously instead of either excitement that if you worked it out with me and agreed, we have the game locked.....or anger that I'm a dumbass and about to tank the game.  Instead you chose to make a joke and proceed to start posting @ Ben instead.  I'm just curious, that's all.  :-)" ~ok well, fair enough as an initial attempt to solve me but did you follow through on my eventual answers in terms of me vs in terms of debating your town reads?

 

"Both you and Shad have made me think you're townies at different spots in this game, and both have also posted things that make me think otherwise." which says nothing

 

"Wat?  Besides the fact that he's voting me (you did mention this, so ok), I'm putting him aside as town due to his role and that somehow makes me scum if he is?  That logic leap tho."

 

"You're dealing in semantics now.....which, btw, I say scum do all the time."

 

Really just some shading

 

maybe that's how you sort things out. It would have been more weird if you'd had Clov worse than me afterwards.  You didn't so ok. 

 

It still reads more like shading me than asking me questions that you think will progress a read.  Again maybe that's just your style but you can understand why it doesn't slap me in the face as an attempt to solve

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?

How has what you've done tried to resolve it?

 

 

Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread.  You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

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Or like, reviewing anything I'd said prior to your epiphany about Tiink

 

Like my posts about wagonomics since you care a lot about what people say about wagonomics (you cared enough to ask Tiink what page he'd dropped them on and went back to reread but you think I'm scum and nothing stood out in your distant memory?)

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If I've missed a post where you explain why I'm scummy then feel free to point it out, or explain why Chris/shad are town/scum, or explain why thevway Ben is using ate is inherently townie when you apparantly mean it's generic... You know the questions ive been asking you

You realize what POE means, right? I can't explain the why of any of you 3 above the others, except I think you're the most scummy.

 

As for how you 3, I said this already - I'm clearing the others as townies. I had Ben and Sooh originally, and had to find another when Sooh died. I think I found Tiinker, and I'm also saying Turin is prob town because of his role even though he wants to be silly and vote me for somehow casting shade at somebody by saying they're prob town.....like in what world does that makes sense, but I digress --- I have my townies and that makes the 3 of you contain the 2 scum.

 

Simple as that.

I understand poe

 

You literally said that shad/chris had things you liked and others you didn't but I don't have a clue what they are (except maybe shad licking Sooh early, although you appeared null on that so?)

 

Why 2?

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I feel like people who know you are going "oh my god he's so obviously x right now" but unfortunately I have yet to really ever figure out how you process stuff

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?

Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol

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I mean I think the side of BFG's point that I agreed with (and hence instinctively read it at) wasn't that Verb wasn't going through solve motions but that they didn't really make sense in terms of actually solving.

 

Basically in terms of figuring out which of me/BFG/Chris is town if he's really that convinced that Tiinker and Ben have to be villagers.

 

He's certainly playing very bold for a wolf and I don't know what's normal for him.

 

Where in any of my posts did I give you the impression that I wasn't trying to figure out which of you was the other townie?  Hell, didn't I even address that at some point today?

 

 

There's been a lot of interaction. There were a few things like

 

"Here's the big question: if you are town, why aren't you jumping at the potential solve of BFG/Clov? Didn't you even mention it before (somebody did)? Why not question my town reads and make sure you agree, and we mechanically lock this game? Why aren't you doing that?" ~which was bold but I had devoted like 200 posts prior to working on BFG and Clov I'm not sure why town!you would expect town!me to suddenly reverse ship because a player whose alignment I wasn't sure of had just called my top suspect a solid villager

 

"I never said you were avoiding the thread.  You're the top poster, and have been closely involved in every aspect - I'm not saying otherwise.  I am merely wondering why you decided to joke about whether you could take my post seriously instead of either excitement that if you worked it out with me and agreed, we have the game locked.....or anger that I'm a dumbass and about to tank the game.  Instead you chose to make a joke and proceed to start posting @ Ben instead.  I'm just curious, that's all.  :-)" ~ok well, fair enough as an initial attempt to solve me but did you follow through on my eventual answers in terms of me vs in terms of debating your town reads?

 

"Both you and Shad have made me think you're townies at different spots in this game, and both have also posted things that make me think otherwise." which says nothing

 

"Wat?  Besides the fact that he's voting me (you did mention this, so ok), I'm putting him aside as town due to his role and that somehow makes me scum if he is?  That logic leap tho."

 

"You're dealing in semantics now.....which, btw, I say scum do all the time."

 

Really just some shading

 

maybe that's how you sort things out. It would have been more weird if you'd had Clov worse than me afterwards.  You didn't so ok. 

 

It still reads more like shading me than asking me questions that you think will progress a read.  Again maybe that's just your style but you can understand why it doesn't slap me in the face as an attempt to solve

 

 

It was both shading AND attempting to solve.  Your reaction to me wasn't what I expected town!Shad to do.  With all the effort you've put in, me going in a totally different direction should have, IMO, made you either freak out that I was going to lose town!Shad the game, or jump on board and try to start picking apart what I'm saying and maybe get me to agree with your POV instead........basically, anything other than initially ignoring until I poked you and making jokes to Ben.

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Or like, reviewing anything I'd said prior to your epiphany about Tiink

 

Like my posts about wagonomics since you care a lot about what people say about wagonomics (you cared enough to ask Tiink what page he'd dropped them on and went back to reread but you think I'm scum and nothing stood out in your distant memory?)

 

I did not say I think you're scum.  I think BFG is at this point, and 1 of you/Clov.  Which one, I don't know....but I did say I think Clov more likely to be town, but I'm having a hard time figuring this out.

 

Don't put words into my mouth.

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?

Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol

Before the recent posting you've asked me one question about my bottom 2, you've agreed with tiinkers analysis that I was looking 'busy' at end of day, you haven't addressed the reasons given for that

 

Sorry not sorry for expecting more if you're town

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If I've missed a post where you explain why I'm scummy then feel free to point it out, or explain why Chris/shad are town/scum, or explain why thevway Ben is using ate is inherently townie when you apparantly mean it's generic... You know the questions ive been asking you

You realize what POE means, right? I can't explain the why of any of you 3 above the others, except I think you're the most scummy.

 

As for how you 3, I said this already - I'm clearing the others as townies. I had Ben and Sooh originally, and had to find another when Sooh died. I think I found Tiinker, and I'm also saying Turin is prob town because of his role even though he wants to be silly and vote me for somehow casting shade at somebody by saying they're prob town.....like in what world does that makes sense, but I digress --- I have my townies and that makes the 3 of you contain the 2 scum.

 

Simple as that.

I understand poe

 

You literally said that shad/chris had things you liked and others you didn't but I don't have a clue what they are (except maybe shad licking Sooh early, although you appeared null on that so?)

 

Why 2?

 

 

2 scum?  Because in a 9 player game, if Turin is telling the truth as a town Lover, that most likely means only 2 scum.

 

Wait......you just made me think of something.  Who's the first person to talk about 2 scum as if they knew it?

 

 

 

 

I feel like people who know you are going "oh my god he's so obviously x right now" but unfortunately I have yet to really ever figure out how you process stuff

 

lol, this is probably true

 

If it makes you feel better, I've got the mafia bug again and I'll be playing more often....you'll get there with me.

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?
Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol

Before the recent posting you've asked me one question about my bottom 2, you've agreed with tiinkers analysis that I was looking 'busy' at end of day, you haven't addressed the reasons given for that

 

Sorry not sorry for expecting more if you're town

 

 

Um, ok.  The "I expected more" thing is a little lame, IMO, but ok.  I can roll with it.

 

What is your core case on me outside of just catering to Clov & Shad?

 

;-)

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(except maybe shad licking Sooh early, although you appeared null on that so?)

I have a feeling Sooh would find me licking her scummy.

Lol phone :(

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You've been talking about 2 town

Why did you need 2 town day 1, why 2 town today

 

Because I wanted to find more than 1, I always do.  Adding me in, that's 1/3 of the game.  Adding in Turin's reveal, that's a voting block that I believe is town.

 

 

Am I missing the point of this question?

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?
Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol
Before the recent posting you've asked me one question about my bottom 2, you've agreed with tiinkers analysis that I was looking 'busy' at end of day, you haven't addressed the reasons given for that

 

Sorry not sorry for expecting more if you're town

Um, ok. The "I expected more" thing is a little lame, IMO, but ok. I can roll with it.

 

What is your core case on me outside of just catering to Clov & Shad?

 

;-)

S'ok so was your am I still alive :p

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?
Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol
Before the recent posting you've asked me one question about my bottom 2, you've agreed with tiinkers analysis that I was looking 'busy' at end of day, you haven't addressed the reasons given for that

 

Sorry not sorry for expecting more if you're town

Um, ok. The "I expected more" thing is a little lame, IMO, but ok. I can roll with it.

 

What is your core case on me outside of just catering to Clov & Shad?

 

;-)

S'ok so was your am I still alive :p

 

 

I was catching up, and that was a post made before actually doing that catchup (I think I said that).

 

You're making a pretty large leap if you're actually going to use that post of mine somehow against me?

 

Yikes.

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It was both shading AND attempting to solve.  Your reaction to me wasn't what I expected town!Shad to do.  With all the effort you've put in, me going in a totally different direction should have, IMO, made you either freak out that I was going to lose town!Shad the game, or jump on board and try to start picking apart what I'm saying and maybe get me to agree with your POV instead........basically, anything other than initially ignoring until I poked you and making jokes to Ben.

That's fair. I ignored a lot on that page initially because I was busy tbh but obviously I can't prove that.

 

You left out the third possibility that I might have thought it was a scum ploy on your part, but still fair.

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You've been talking about 2 town

Why did you need 2 town day 1, why 2 town today

Because I wanted to find more than 1, I always do. Adding me in, that's 1/3 of the game. Adding in Turin's reveal, that's a voting block that I believe is town.

 

 

Am I missing the point of this question?

Assuming 2 scum and turins telling the truth today is mylo. You don't need 2 town, you need to solve everyone (or try to)

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It was both shading AND attempting to solve.  Your reaction to me wasn't what I expected town!Shad to do.  With all the effort you've put in, me going in a totally different direction should have, IMO, made you either freak out that I was going to lose town!Shad the game, or jump on board and try to start picking apart what I'm saying and maybe get me to agree with your POV instead........basically, anything other than initially ignoring until I poked you and making jokes to Ben.

That's fair. I ignored a lot on that page initially because I was busy tbh but obviously I can't prove that.

 

You left out the third possibility that I might have thought it was a scum ploy on your part, but still fair.

 

 

Ok, I can accept that.

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Or like, reviewing anything I'd said prior to your epiphany about Tiink

 

Like my posts about wagonomics since you care a lot about what people say about wagonomics (you cared enough to ask Tiink what page he'd dropped them on and went back to reread but you think I'm scum and nothing stood out in your distant memory?)

 

I did not say I think you're scum.  I think BFG is at this point, and 1 of you/Clov.  Which one, I don't know....but I did say I think Clov more likely to be town, but I'm having a hard time figuring this out.

 

Don't put words into my mouth.

 

I think you quoted the wrong thing but if you think scum is in me BFG and Clov and you think Clov is more likely town then you think scum is exactly me and BFG. That's not putting words in your mouth.

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Variance of degrees sure but if you're a villager you necessarily think that gth your best guess at the wolves at this instant is BFG and me. What you said makes no sense otherwise.

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Verb/Tink does jive. It was the way I've been leaning since verb basically wrote tink off for minimal reasoning and then proceeded to do nothi ng to resolve his POE.

 

But I want to cover my bases. I don't have time to camp out here and decide

Can you explain what you mean by the bold? I've been trying to resolve my POE all day, ever since I stated it. How do you mean this?
How has what you've done tried to resolve it?
Uh....posting, asking questions, stating thoughts, explaining how I arrived at certain results, general discussion and reading the thread. You know, that kind of stuff.

 

*eyeroll*

Lol
Before the recent posting you've asked me one question about my bottom 2, you've agreed with tiinkers analysis that I was looking 'busy' at end of day, you haven't addressed the reasons given for that

 

Sorry not sorry for expecting more if you're town

Um, ok. The "I expected more" thing is a little lame, IMO, but ok. I can roll with it.

 

What is your core case on me outside of just catering to Clov & Shad?

 

;-)

S'ok so was your am I still alive :p

I was catching up, and that was a post made before actually doing that catchup (I think I said that).

 

You're making a pretty large leap if you're actually going to use that post of mine somehow against me?

 

Yikes.

Lol,

 

It was pretty clearly a joke

 

I've explained my issues with you. Ivevalso tried to resolve them. You have yet to do the same

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