The Founding of Quahog (Peter's Progress) Mafia - Game Over

[Clovdyx]

I will say, based on her response to GND, I have no trouble believing Sooh would be frustrated if she really did think there was a jester.

 

I just don't think she'd really read it that way, in a closed game with an experienced mod (and player) hosting.

[Clovdyx]

Sooh, did you say what your actual read on Turin was atp?

[Sooh]

Sooh when I make sketchy awkward comments at you do you mostly just roll your eyes and ignore them?

 

I think I need to find a new tactic here.

Pretty much. 

 

Is that bad?

[Shad_]

Her tone was solid in the exchange.

 

Not as important as how she sounds towards more relevant topics (she could get frustrated there in either slot) but a good look.

[Sooh]

I will say, based on her response to GND, I have no trouble believing Sooh would be frustrated if she really did think there was a jester.

 

I just don't think she'd really read it that way, in a closed game with an experienced mod (and player) hosting.

*shrug*

 

I did.

[Sooh]

Sooh, did you say what your actual read on Turin was atp?

Annoying town.

[Clovdyx]

Her tone was solid in the exchange.

 

Not as important as how she sounds towards more relevant topics (she could get frustrated there in either slot) but a good look.

If by solid you mean it doesn't make me think she's mafia, I agree with all of this :P

[Shad_]

 

Sooh when I make sketchy awkward comments at you do you mostly just roll your eyes and ignore them?

 

I think I need to find a new tactic here.

Pretty much. 

 

Is that bad?

 

 

Maybe.

 

It's not really ever random.

 

Not completely random anyway. 

[Clovdyx]

 

I will say, based on her response to GND, I have no trouble believing Sooh would be frustrated if she really did think there was a jester.

 

I just don't think she'd really read it that way, in a closed game with an experienced mod (and player) hosting.

*shrug*

 

I did.

I guess tbf I also don't think you'd actively lie about it, either. You have no reason to do so as town, and it seems like a pointless thing to lie about as mafia.

[Sooh]

 

 

Sooh when I make sketchy awkward comments at you do you mostly just roll your eyes and ignore them?

 

I think I need to find a new tactic here.

Pretty much. 

 

Is that bad?

 

 

Maybe.

 

It's not really ever random.

 

Not completely random anyway. 

 

but my go-to response would then be  and we'd get nowhere

[Sooh]

Chris, make a joke! Quick!

 

All this serious talk from you makes me shiver.

[Clovdyx]

 

Sooh, did you say what your actual read on Turin was atp?

Annoying town.

Okay, thanks.

[Clovdyx]

Chris, make a joke! Quick!

 

All this serious talk from you makes me shiver.

I'm getting dangerously close to contributing:(

[Shad_]

but my go-to response would then be  and we'd get nowhere

But I'm either trying to figure you out or pretending to try to figure you out and there are differencesssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Sooh]

 

Chris, make a joke! Quick!

 

All this serious talk from you makes me shiver.

I'm getting dangerously close to contributing:(

 

[Sooh]

 

but my go-to response would then be  and we'd get nowhere

But I'm either trying to figure you out or pretending to try to figure you out and there are differencesssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

fine. I promise I'll roll my eyes at you in public.

[Shad_]

lol

[Sooh]

lol

[Shad_]

Are we just going to lynch Darthe today or what's up?

[Gentled Ben]

 

 

@Cory: Well-played.

 

@Sooh: Are we finally on the same team? 

Possibly.

 

Could it be, though? I thought we were destined to always be opposites.

 

 

Destiny be damned, someday we will be town together in a game in which we are not mercilessly pitted as opponents in a senseless tennis match, and I want that day to be now!

 

Cream cheese icing, I have to add some decorations... The sugar in the caramel didn't dissolve fully, so I need something to disguise :(

I was going to say that you could try to make little raisin flies (not sure what you would make the wings from) eating the undissolved sugar, but then I saw you made the cobweb, which is amazing and almost a mindmeld considering the thought I had about flies.

 

 

 

 

Ben you randed wolf again.

Close...I randed dog, but he's town.

 

I'm not a fan of Family Guy, either. I watched a few episodes the first season, and while the baby was funny, the show just couldn't hook me, which is odd, because I liked Married with Children (until they added the little kid) and the first several seasons of The Simpsons.

I liked this last night, it's a little awkward sounding but the thought process seems quite convoluted if mafia

 

I'm less certain today, there's more of a gap between shads post and bens response than I realised yesterday and the follow on exchange still reads oddly

 

It's when I get up in the mornings (check the time on this post, for instance), so it was an immediate response from me, a shot from the hip, regardless of the time difference in the posts.

 

 

 

 

Shad overselling. Not sure what that means yet. Might just mean I'm hungry.

I’ve only seen him be a wolf, so I’m not sure what his town game looks like. The two times I saw him play wolf, he didn’t joke about it, but that doesn’t mean it’s outside of his range. I think townShad benefits more from this nonsense than scumShad does, but that doesn’t mean he’s town.

So what's your actual read on Shad?

 

It was scum until one of the last posts I read. Now it's null (pretty sure I quoted the townie post at or towards the end of this wall, but if not, prod me if I forget, and I'll go find it and explain why it pushed me back to null on him).

 

 

 

 

 

I mean I got that impression on p1 and kind of liked it; the post Chris quoted was odd in an obvious sort of way considering I had just spent a page or two openly claiming I was a wolf with Ben.

 

Not really in a good or bad way, just left me thinking "huh?"

Tldr, The post you were 'huh' on was Chris asking darthe to explain? And you liked darthe pg1?

This might be it, but that's not how I (finally) took it. I thought he was saying I quoted him saying he expected more of a response, and that was because Ben's reaction was 'huh - he had spent several.pages claiming scum with him, and Ben had little reaction to it.

 

I concede I could be entirely off

Shad called Ben a wolf then Ben 'didn't react' the several pages of scum claiming came after?

 

But I didn't really follow the train of thought :(

 

Denying that I'm a wolf is not a reaction?

 

 

 

I liked this last night, it's a little awkward sounding but the thought process seems quite convoluted if mafia

That was one of Ben's strong points as Mafia last game--his ability to give an unorthodox reaponse and stick to it under inquery. Not sure the extent to which that applies here sans coffee and a shower but my thought in the moment was it was NAI.

 

 

Don't like the shade here. If you were trying to get a reaction out of me other than what you received, you could just as easily have said so. Instead, you called my response "unorthodox." How is it unorthodox? You connect unorthodox responses with my mafia game, then anticipate that I will stick with my response (because why wouldn't I?)  and call that scummy too before pretending to back off with a backhanded note that without being awake yet, it looks NAI. This makes the entire exchange that you started with me feel like a set up and puts you into the scum pile for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I must be bad at this, im taking the guy at face value

 

In all seriousness though, I want to hear Darthe's explanation for this.  I have no trouble believing that he could actually be doing it as town, but I'm fairly confident I saw Shad do something ~similar as scum in another game (though I can't for the life of me think of what it was).

 

Same goes for Verb.

 

 

My explanation is:  why bother as a townie?  What good does it do?  For other townies, it draws unnecessary attention, and for scum it draws mostly the same.  I can't see a solid reason for doing this as a townie, but I DO see a solid reason for doing it as scum - TWTBAW.  It was just my initial take on it.

 

I'll admit that since then Shad seems to be doing more "ordinary" posting in an effort to appear town.

 

 

I agree with Verbal here. My initial thought when he started calling us both wolves was, "Whoa, why is he doing this?" and then I figured he must be town with me and wants to see if I freak out in order to be sure that he is town with me, but after you disagreed with my assessment that he gains more as town by that (knowledge of a town!Ben), I started looking at it more from a wolf perspective, and it makes more sense to do it as wolf, both from TWTBAW angle and as ammo to set me up for a mislynch, either early if town gets after me or later if it can be associated with other little things. Then he started sounding more town, which actually is NAI, since if he's town, you would assume that at some point, he's going to look like it, and if he's scum, at some point, he's going to try to blend in. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ /spoiler]

 

 

 

 

 

Sooh, I'm wondering why you didn't ask anything of Ben when he softclaimed Brian, who would be the jester.

 

I'm not obsessed with the jester. I am very curious about your words/actions regarding it. Feels a bit like Mafia "hunting" 3p, but not really putting effort into it.

Why would Brian be the jester?

 

what?

Giyf

 

In the episode this game is based on Brian is the court jester mentioned in the game OP.

 

That's not in the OP though, right?

 

I also thought I made it clear that I don't watch this show.

 

Also 3p hunting is like the least important thing now and I don't get why you think I'm hunting for any 3p through my banging my head against the wall thinking Shad was jester last night. If that was at all important to me as scum, why would I not just get him NKed at the first opportunity? Regardless if he is 3p or town I'd be one step closer to parity, and it wouldn't matter to me in the least if he was 3p or no. That's basically only important to scum if there's a vig.

 

I don't get your line of thinking.

 

 

Turin is spot on here. Brian is a jester on the show, and I am Brian in this game, but my role is not that of a jester. Because I am Brian and I am not a jester in the context of mafia gaming, there probably is no jester in this game, since he would most likely make Brian the jester if he was going to have a game jester. 

 

I did not realize how many flavor quotes I added to this wall. In hindsight, just this final one would have been sufficient. Sorry about that.

 

@ Tiink I wouldn't get hung up on meta chats if you aren't comfortable with them.  Just try to look beyond the commentary to what people are actually doing with it. 

 

I've kind of mastered the art of being vocally useless via meta blabber on D1s and I think it's why no one ever suspects me until a game has progressed a bit.  Am I using it to develop reads or to look busy?  Ask yourself questions like that and see what you come up with.

And this is the townie post that pushed Shad back to null for me. It's too early to tell whether he's producing reads or looking busy, but I think it's a risky play to draw attention to it as a wolf, and he was more cautious than this in the two games I saw him play a wolf.

 

Right now, my strongest town read is BFG because of her early attempts to solve by poking at everything the way town BFG does, and my strongest scum read is Shad for things discussed earlier in this post, so I'll drop my early vote on him since using it to pressure anyone else would obviously be a plot to pressure them, having already discussed Shad's potential wolf equity despite a null read on him. 

[v]Shad[/v]

[Shad_]

Ben why do you always break pages

[Shad_]

Looking forward to adjusting my eyes enough to read that though lol

 

We just scummed together so I expect it to be spicy

[Sooh]

plz to new page

[Sooh]

very very soon

[Sooh]

Are we there yet?