Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[Cory Caboose]

Of those players, I think the one I'm least comfortable with at this point is now Eld, but I think that's mostly a factor of my confidence in reading him being very shaky lol

 

He's definitely a high effort wolf that tries new things a lot

 

But I can't really think of anything he's done I felt was "negative"

[Eldrick4221]

Is it possible we live in a world that Sooh/SpadesBop/Zander/Darthe/Eldrick are all villagers and this is just some Dragon Reborn reboot we're too paranoid to register correctly?

 

I certainly don't think it's impossible

I'm mostly there already. Possibility is certainly within reach.

[Cory Caboose]

@ Fredwood

 

Let's speed date a bit if you don't mind ;)

 

Do you prefer being a villager or a wolf?

What do you think is your strongest quality as a villager?

What do you think is your strongest quality as a wolf?

[Fredwood]

that last line about Zander and Spades should read both have exhibited behavior that have concerned me but also behavior that I think is Villa.

 

I brought them up not because I have a bead on alignment (I don't) but I think I have a bead on if they're working together or not.  I don't have a strong feeling about anyone else...

 

The funny thing is, looking back, I think the Sooh part of the flip possibilities was more "manipulative" then the Darthe part.

 

I got days of tinfoil on that, but I've nearly pulled my muscles as it is with as much stretching I've already done.

[Eldrick4221]

 

I liked fred's back and forth with spades, but i wish he talked about more of the non consensus people rather than eld/sooh/corydyx (yes i know he talked abotu me but i find it kind of a mixed bag that part, i like that he is looking at the posts and drawing connectins, but i don't see the darthe/spades thing he sees, also a comment about my list being easy seems weird since, unless im wrong, most people have pretty much the same list[top 3 clov/sooh/eld; the rest of the active people in null/villy roles; then the inactives] so i have a bit of the perspective thing spades has in, why single out my list and not anyone elses)

I just have a bigger null list. I guess it's just an issue of saying they're town leans, and the only nulls/negatives were inactives/the guy that's been tunneling you. Maybe your read on Iron and Darthe is more meta dependent. Maybe scum!bop throws a hot take in there, maybe scum!bop don't care and does what he wants. Negatives overshadowing the positives etc.

I think for a day one lynch Scruffy only really stands out to me at this very moment. Nothing positive from him.

 

Coward, not a ton of content, so, If he's trying to catch up, I'm all about waiting til we're closer to EOD to make a decision on him. Of everyone else in my nulls he's likely the only one that I'd be willing to move down into day 1 lynch category, if he just no shows or does nothing rest of phase.

Everyone else I can think of a reason to keep around

 

Iron... (shrug)? I have no exposure to this guy. About the only thing that really made an impression was his Cuth analysis, I can't really say if I agree with it, cus I have one game of experience with Cuth and he was super active and solvey and town that game. But his post did feel like a genuine assessment of Cuth's meta, however, that's not terribly AI

 

Cuth (Shrug?) Like I said, played one game, super active and solvey, seems to be a consensus that he plays like he's playing now as town, so would put him in the give time category.

 

Darthe (shrug?) lol...I've said multiple times nothing drastic. Some of his interactions with Sooh felt a little townie, enough to keep him out of the bottom

 

Zander - Spades I've gone into. I would like to see Zander clarify his Eldrick read a little. Both have exhibited behavior that have concerned me but behavior I think is Villa...so

 

I feel like I missed someone...I'm not missing anyone.

I'm between coward and scruffy for d1 lynch myself. I agree that if coward shows indication that he's catching up it's a different matter. As of now he hasn't.

 

I will only be up for another few hours. We'll see if that changes between now and then.

[Fredwood]

@ Fredwood

 

Let's speed date a bit if you don't mind ;)

 

Do you prefer being a villager or a wolf?

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a villager?

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a wolf?

Let me answer this after I change into something Red.

 

1. Villager

 

2. I like to think I try not to tunnel keep and open mind and am an attentive romantic partner that is open to all sources of input. I'm a much better Jury then I am a Prosecutor. Also Power Roles, give me a power role, I'm OP, I'm not even joking.

 

3. Not answering questions in a wolfy way.  Honestly I don't know, blending in.  I still have the problem of not surviving POE as wolf but I usually last pretty late in the game as wolf. I'm better at the out of thread stuff when Wolfing I think.

[Eldrick4221]

@ Fredwood

 

Let's speed date a bit if you don't mind ;)

 

Do you prefer being a villager or a wolf?

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a villager?

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a wolf?

Ooh. This sounds like fun.

[Fredwood]

 

 

 

 

I liked fred's back and forth with spades, but i wish he talked about more of the non consensus people rather than eld/sooh/corydyx (yes i know he talked abotu me but i find it kind of a mixed bag that part, i like that he is looking at the posts and drawing connectins, but i don't see the darthe/spades thing he sees, also a comment about my list being easy seems weird since, unless im wrong, most people have pretty much the same list[top 3 clov/sooh/eld; the rest of the active people in null/villy roles; then the inactives] so i have a bit of the perspective thing spades has in, why single out my list and not anyone elses)

I just have a bigger null list. I guess it's just an issue of saying they're town leans, and the only nulls/negatives were inactives/the guy that's been tunneling you. Maybe your read on Iron and Darthe is more meta dependent. Maybe scum!bop throws a hot take in there, maybe scum!bop don't care and does what he wants. Negatives overshadowing the positives etc.

I think for a day one lynch Scruffy only really stands out to me at this very moment. Nothing positive from him.

Coward, not a ton of content, so, If he's trying to catch up, I'm all about waiting til we're closer to EOD to make a decision on him. Of everyone else in my nulls he's likely the only one that I'd be willing to move down into day 1 lynch category, if he just no shows or does nothing rest of phase.

Everyone else I can think of a reason to keep around

Iron... (shrug)? I have no exposure to this guy. About the only thing that really made an impression was his Cuth analysis, I can't really say if I agree with it, cus I have one game of experience with Cuth and he was super active and solvey and town that game. But his post did feel like a genuine assessment of Cuth's meta, however, that's not terribly AI

Cuth (Shrug?) Like I said, played one game, super active and solvey, seems to be a consensus that he plays like he's playing now as town, so would put him in the give time category.

Darthe (shrug?) lol...I've said multiple times nothing drastic. Some of his interactions with Sooh felt a little townie, enough to keep him out of the bottom

Zander - Spades I've gone into. I would like to see Zander clarify his Eldrick read a little. Both have exhibited behavior that have concerned me but behavior I think is Villa...so

I feel like I missed someone...I'm not missing anyone.

I'm between coward and scruffy for d1 lynch myself. I agree that if coward shows indication that he's catching up it's a different matter. As of now he hasn't.

I will only be up for another few hours. We'll see if that changes between now and then.

 

 

 

There's an issue of it being easy I think, but I don't think you need to overthink a day 1 lynch.  I also don't think Scruffy is at a point yet where he can't come back and give me a reason not to vote him.  I come from a meta where day 1 lynches just don't happen a lot, so keeping it simple is the best way I know how to cope with the adjustment.

 

Where are you at with Zander?  

[Fredwood]

Like if both Scruffy and Coward came back and put in effort, would you still lynch Scruffy over Zander?

[Eldrick4221]

Do you prefer being a villager or a wolf?

 

Villager. Easily.

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a villager?

 

Finding the little things that other people miss that help figure out someone's alignment. Decent accuracy with this too.

 

What do you think is your strongest quality as a wolf?

 

Finding reasons to mislynch that sound reasonable. Town cred ftw.

[Eldrick4221]

Like if both Scruffy and Coward came back and put in effort, would you still lynch Scruffy over Zander?

That would depend entirely on the content of the effort put in by all 3 of them.

[Eldrick4221]

I have zander low because he refused to work with me. I want to understand his pic. I'm confident that i could if he'd work with me.

 

But he's scum reading me because I don't already get him, and that's buh?

[Eldrick4221]

Pov*

[MrsClov]

Well, I'm back from my Zander ISO. Holy what did I just read, batman?

Here's what I've come away with. Zander originally sussed SpadesBop because of Spades interaction with Sooh. He said it felt awkward, and later went to say he thought they could be w/w together. When I read through the interactions between Zander/Bop it felt like  Zander wasn't the one who subbed in for Penny. Like his questions were about Penny's meta and read like he was trying to figure out that slot (which is his own, mind you) not Bop's or anyone else's.  The questions he asked were as follows:
 

 

How many games have you played with Penny?

 

Has she ever subbed as Scum before?  As Town?  Is one more prevalent?

 

You don't think its possible she outted before role pm's were out or she couldn't have outted as Town?

 

Do you know she doesn't like playing as Scum at all?

 

So you generally assume anyone subbing out is Scummy?

 

Does Penneh sub out as Town?

 

The entire ISO I never got the feeling he was trying to figure anyone out. He never gave reasons for his reads, and infact I'm really bothered by him having Cordyx as town. I have them as probably town (for now), but I also have reasons associated. To me, Zander reads to me like he came in to the game and was going to town read Cordyx. In fact here's one post that really bothered me related to this.

 

 

Pretend for a sec you knew for certain Cordyx, me and ofc no pretending but Linz are all Town.

 

He's had Eldrick as a high town read all phase, so why all of the sudden is he voting him? Especially when at one point in time he said that 1 of Darth, Sooh, or SpadesBop was scum and called Ironeyes wolfy 3 times? Zander asked several times what other people thought of HIM, but very little of asking about other people or trying to figure out their slots. 

All in all I'm not convinced that Zander is trying to solve the game.

[unvote]

[v]Zander[/v]

[Eldrick4221]

That was fun, Cory. Everyone should answer those!

[Eldrick4221]

*hugs linz*

 

You're braver than I am.

[Eldrick4221]

Yeah. Sticking with my being fine with a zander lynch.

[MrsClov]

*hugs linz*

 

You're braver than I am.

It honestly wasn't as bad as I expected.~5 pages of so and it's mostly just going through the multi-quotes.

[Eldrick4221]

Zero content and wolf claim.

 

Solid case.

 

Bad reaction to pressure.

 

Decisions. Decisions.

[Eldrick4221]

Moving my vote literally because of what I said earlier. 0 content would suuuuck as a mislynch.

 

[unvote]

[V]Zander[/v]

[Eldrick4221]

And honestly wouldn't be spectacular as a scum lynch. Better, obviously.

But if coward is scum, he'd be a more useful lynch later.

[MrsClov]

And honestly wouldn't be spectacular as a scum lynch. Better, obviously.

But if coward is scum, he'd be a more useful lynch later.

I'm kind of willing to give Coward time to catch up and see what he does. 1000+ posts on day 1 is a lot to sub into.

[Eldrick4221]

Yeah

[Eldrick4221]

Would really like to see more from cuth and marsh too.

[csarmi]

YOUR HOURLY VOTE COUNT:

 

Eldrick(2): Scruffington, Zander

Scruffington(2): Darthe, Marsh

Marsh(1): Cuth

Fleeing Coward(1): CorDyx

Zander(2): MrsClovLinz, Eldrick

  

A deadline is now set for Friday, July 14th at 11:30pm EST.  With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

(votes were reset on replaced people)

 

Also until Hally gets around to update the player list ...

 

Aquilla has been replaced by Fleeing Coward

Ted Bundy has been replaced by Fredwood

 

(do not discuss subs)