[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

she explained it a few posts later

 

fairly well

Yeah she did.

 

Catchup posting lol

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

That's easy to say.

 

But we'll know more after Darthe flips.

 

Or you can go ahead and try to flip MrsClov and I. It will amount to the same difference in the end.

 

As MrsClov already told you, we play for the long game

This post bugs me.

 

Same difference would imply same alignment.

 

And town wouldn't know that.

i know i know i know

 

it boils down to liza does this as any alignment which is regrettable but nai

 

sadly

Yeah that doesn't help either, because it's comparing them to Darthe.

 

Would really like to understand what they mean here.

[Eldrick4221]

w

 

 

 

Lol, why pocket?

well

 

if you were pocketing me

 

it succeeded

 

you're town though so we should be alright

Why do you already have that read?

wot

 

with that readslist she's not scum

 

or i'm totally misreading the game

 

complete mindmeld, and i'm generally not too fond of that being used as a way of reading people

Ok. Gotcha.

 

BFG is really good scum. It takes a lot for me to move her out of null.

[Eldrick4221]

Yay. Caught up.

[MrsClov]

 

 

 

That's easy to say.

 

But we'll know more after Darthe flips.

 

Or you can go ahead and try to flip MrsClov and I. It will amount to the same difference in the end.

 

As MrsClov already told you, we play for the long game

This post bugs me.

 

Same difference would imply same alignment.

 

And town wouldn't know that.

i know i know i know

 

it boils down to liza does this as any alignment which is regrettable but nai

 

sadly

Yeah that doesn't help either, because it's comparing them to Darthe.

 

Would really like to understand what they mean here.

 

Basically where we're at is this, if our reads are correct the scum team does not want us to flip as it would look very bad for them. Seeing as Darthe is our top scum read at the moment if he flips scum it should in theory prove what we've been putting together in the thread.

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT (still unchanged):

Miss Kizzy Clov (3) - DPR, WiFi, Crusher

Tiink (1) - Cuth

Darthe (2) - Eldrick, Miss Kitty Clov

Eldrick (3) - Kronos, Darthe, Tiink

Not Voting: Cass, Hallia, Dice, BFG, Seph
 
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to string 'em up!

Deadline for Day 2 is Friday, 2/17/17 at 9AM MST

[Eldrick4221]

Basically where we're at is this, if our reads are correct the scum team does not want us to flip as it would look very bad for them. Seeing as Darthe is our top scum read at the moment if he flips scum it should in theory prove what we've been putting together in the thread.

That at least makes sense. Don't see how "same difference" is appropriate there. Feels like you are saying between you and darthe would be a scum flip either way.

 

But that doesn't make sense to say.

[Eldrick4221]

I get how what she said makes sense when I read it with that in mind.

 

Just weird wording.

[MrsClov]

 

Basically where we're at is this, if our reads are correct the scum team does not want us to flip as it would look very bad for them. Seeing as Darthe is our top scum read at the moment if he flips scum it should in theory prove what we've been putting together in the thread.

That at least makes sense. Don't see how "same difference" is appropriate there. Feels like you are saying between you and darthe would be a scum flip either way.

 

But that doesn't make sense to say.

 

I see where you're coming from, but that definitely wasn't Liz's intent. The way we see is it'd prove what we've been saying in thread. If we flip people will finally see we're town. If Darthe flips (and is scum, I won't talk in absolutes for the sake of argument) it should give everything we've been working on a lot more merit, seeing as only a few people seem to be really reading our posts and considering our logic. 

[Eldrick4221]

Someone asked why I wasn't here (want to say it was liz)

 

For those that don't know, I work overnights Tuesday and Wednesday night. I also currently have a second job Tuesday evening and Friday night.

 

I am unavailable in the mornings friday-Monday and in the late morning/afternoons Wednesday and thrusday due to sleep, and also during my second job.

[MrsClov]

Someone asked why I wasn't here (want to say it was liz)

 

For those that don't know, I work overnights Tuesday and Wednesday night. I also currently have a second job Tuesday evening and Friday night.

 

I am unavailable in the mornings friday-Monday and in the late morning/afternoons Wednesday and thrusday due to sleep, and also during my second job.

Good grief, dude. What do you do? 

[Eldrick4221]

Front desk manager at motel 6

[Eldrick4221]

I work 3 evening shifts and 2 overnights

[MrsClov]

Ah, yeah that would definitely require overnights. 

[Cuth]

 

Someone asked why I wasn't here (want to say it was liz)

 

For those that don't know, I work overnights Tuesday and Wednesday night. I also currently have a second job Tuesday evening and Friday night.

 

I am unavailable in the mornings friday-Monday and in the late morning/afternoons Wednesday and thrusday due to sleep, and also during my second job.

Good grief, dude. What do you do? 

 

he works

[Eldrick4221]

Ok. Pg 30 interactions with NotBob

 

 

 

 

 

Wow,  the groupthink in this thread is ridiculous. None of you see it as a little odd that everyone seems to be jumping up and down saying that what Liz and I have done are scummy? I find it hard to believe that you are all town and really truly can't see the problem with everyone but Liz and I saying that what we've said is scummy. Definitely leaning town on Seph and Cuth right now, but I'm questioning some of you who have come, in this morning and are so easily going with the general consensus of the thread. Incredibly concerned that Tinker doesn't seem to think there's anything of value in the thread right now.

 

 

I'm on page 5...so do a favor...what have you and Liz done?

 

Cliff note version, make of it what you will: Liz and I placed a joke vote on Dice and it blew up out of control many of the conversations we've had with people made them start going after us for being scum (we're not) so we've been on the defense all day phase. Liz was trying to expand everyone's thoughts and ask people to open their minds and really think about it and asked who would our scum partners be. So now that's apparently the scummiest thing ever. I spent a large chunk of last night trying to reason with those who were on because they were expecting us to find scum, when it's kind of hard to get things done when you're constantly having to defend yourself. Cuth, Seph, and Eldrick gave us a courtesy unvote, we unvoted Dice. Came back this morning to people who hadn't been around a ton yesterday agreeing that we're scummy. It just seems odd that no one has a problem with a large part of the game thinking this is scummy. It's like they're just going after the easiest thing to lynch in the thread.

  

 

Ok I'm done.

Cloviz- With no meta on Liz I got her solid as scum. Purely for the fact that regardless of now, mid game or later that question serves no purpose in town finding scum. I see it purely as a confusion and muddle the thread question. I also thought she got a little heated as she defended but without knowing her not willing to put much weight to it. * just got third breakfast, be back in a while, yay!*

3rd breakfast was everything it should have been.

Already did Eldrick above.

Cull and Seph are my null to town leans 1and 2. Both are pretty much thinking along the same lines I am. Both had very good lines of questioning.

Pirate- I loves him. So far I got him null to slight town lean. Like the stance he took on Cloviz and agree with his reasoning. Yet, best way to read this filthy pirate is wait till he gets pressured and starts defending. The more he slips into "boozy trolling, how dare you vote me? " mode the more likely he is scum. Just ask a big brother brother. I will let you know later.

Darthe- clown prince of mafia, I like his play and his pressure. His silly early claim no different than me benching after a meal. Not pleasant but also not surprising.

Jetscode- just saw he started playing. If he is kicking in doors and pressuring people that is him scum hunting. If he starts tossing illogical concepts into the mix we kill him with the swiftness.

  

 

 

 

Wow,  the groupthink in this thread is ridiculous. None of you see it as a little odd that everyone seems to be jumping up and down saying that what Liz and I have done are scummy? I find it hard to believe that you are all town and really truly can't see the problem with everyone but Liz and I saying that what we've said is scummy. Definitely leaning town on Seph and Cuth right now, but I'm questioning some of you who have come, in this morning and are so easily going with the general consensus of the thread. Incredibly concerned that Tinker doesn't seem to think there's anything of value in the thread right now.

I'm on page 5...so do a favor...what have you and Liz done?

 

 

Post #309

Jetscode likes to troll before he reads the thread.

  

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

Darthe being Darthe.

Notbob usually instavotes me, and made a point of it last game because that claim was enough reason for him to do so. Here he is defending it?? Thats very atypical of you bobbo

  

 

 

 

Didn't you say DARTHE???!??

#AWKWARD!

<3

Yep, I did say Darthe.

But you told me to be my ENFP self and you know how we do

Would you prefer me to vote for Darthe?

I would...we can tag team?Vote Darthe

There it is! Ok, I feel a bit better now, though not sussing the claim alone is just funky

 

 

Preview is acting up, so I will just post comments after this.

[Eldrick4221]

1st post. MrsClov answering question explaining their own play so far. Null.

 

2nd post. Crusher read on NotBob. Quoted to see if his explanation compares with his progression.

 

3rd post. Weird response from Crusher. Don't see how his question to Liz is trolling.

 

Post 4 and 5. Darthe talking about how NotBob always votes him and then responding to the vote. MrsClov already covered this, but it feels like jokey banter.

[Eldrick4221]

This is going to take forever :/

[Eldrick4221]

Oh right. I can put Sooh on ignore cuz we know she isn't scum.

[dicetosser1]

im in blue

 

 

So dice assuming you are still here. Besides kizzy - where are your thoughts?

 

 

i think you dpr cass and crush are prob town  darthe probably should be there but im purposely staying paranoid on him

 

i think liz and eldrick are not town  i say not town cause i think 3p isa a real possibility on eldrick

 

cant make my mind up on cuth

 

am looking to see what bfg says

 

 

 

 

 

 

MQ for last couple of things just to annoy Dice.

 

 

gee thanks qlder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have recorded this!!

 

 

Oh come on, that posts?

 

DM is eating my MQ replieeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

thats probably a good thing......for us...

 

 

Bite me, cocky :P

 

 

crawls all over the toad

 

[Eldrick4221]

 

Wow,  the groupthink in this thread is ridiculous. None of you see it as a little odd that everyone seems to be jumping up and down saying that what Liz and I have done are scummy? I find it hard to believe that you are all town and really truly can't see the problem with everyone but Liz and I saying that what we've said is scummy. Definitely leaning town on Seph and Cuth right now, but I'm questioning some of you who have come, in this morning and are so easily going with the general consensus of the thread. Incredibly concerned that Tinker doesn't seem to think there's anything of value in the thread right now.

 

On one hand I think that the almost unanimous choir that you two are scummy is an indicator you're town, but claiming that Seph and Cuth aren't scummy because they are being nice and unvoting you guys is too easy a town read on them for me.

Just noticed that sooh's reasoning to town read them is the same reason I changed my mind.

[Eldrick4221]

Pg31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

That he's doing it again is so null it's hilarious.

A) Huge difference between him doing it last game and this game is this game is closed. We don't even know IF there's a vig.

B) Darthe claiming early in general is null by itself.

C) He could easily do this again if he rolled scum again as equally as he could as town.

 

^^^scummy post^^^

Why?

Jetscode shows up thirty pages behind and trolls strong players until he catches up. Right around that he admitted only reading to page 5. LOL

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

That he's doing it again is so null it's hilarious.

A) Huge difference between him doing it last game and this game is this game is closed. We don't even know IF there's a vig.

B) Darthe claiming early in general is null by itself.

C) He could easily do this again if he rolled scum again as equally as he could as town.

 

^^^scummy post^^^

Why?

 

I do not like Eldrick's soft defense tendencies.  Yes, Darthe does this claim stuff like this too often but Eldrick's rationalizing comes across as scummy.

Oh I see. Not use to quoting here. Thought you referring to Darthe post. Haven't cared for Eldricks play. Part of my top3

 

 

These posts are just weird.

 

Again with the trolling. I don't see how he's trolling here. I was also confused at being called a strong player. This was never addressed, and not even sure he meant me.

 

Other post I don't see why Crusher would think he was talking about Darthe instead of me. He quoted me.

[Eldrick4221]

I have 27 more pages of this.

 

-cries-

 

This better end up being informative.

[MrsClov]

Eldrick, 

 

What are your thoughts on us being tied for the vote right now?

[Cuth]

oh right

 

i promised work

 

dangit