[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[seph]

Ok. Your premise makes sense on the surface, except for one thing.

 

Why?

 

What could his sacrifice be achieving here? How is NotBob dying "better for the team"?

Thats what I am asking. How logically does it make sense for a scum to kill themselves. The only option is to give his teammates a better shot. all i did was analyze everything that happened after the unvote.

as scum if i can live a extra day, I am goin to live a extra day, even if im getting lynched day 2. it is 1 less townie for me to worry about. So to make them look better is really the only option isn't it?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Back to the celebration...

 

And this is where the terrible, horrible, unstoppable and immeasurable diarrhea of the mouth begins.

 

Please keep in mind that at no point during all of the night's commentary does anyone notice or mention NB's suicide vote. That's funny, isn't it? I think so.

 

Bring in Kizzy...

I just did :) thanks for showing it to me in your posts

Yeah I forgot to thank you for it too.

 

Was too distracted by how you were trying to use that point against those who had already posted. As if scum would be the only one to not notice something.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Ok. Your premise makes sense on the surface, except for one thing.

 

Why?

 

What could his sacrifice be achieving here? How is NotBob dying "better for the team"?

Thats what I am asking. How logically does it make sense for a scum to kill themselves. The only option is to give his teammates a better shot. all i did was analyze everything that happened after the unvote.

as scum if i can live a extra day, I am goin to live a extra day, even if im getting lynched day 2. it is 1 less townie for me to worry about. So to make them look better is really the only option isn't it?

True.

[seph]

I really feel confident about this

[Eldrick4221]

Lot of people look bad in this mess.

 

Darthe, DPR, Crusher, kronos ...I know there more but I can't think of them right now.

 

Here's hoping we have at least 2 scum in that group.

[Eldrick4221]

Oh. Also you're pushing the concept that I'm 3p. Care to explain what gives you that idea?

[seph]

Your playing like a 3p imo. There is fence sitting, some towny play. Buy your staying in the background and looks like your trying to avoid sis from both parties.

 

Don't get me wrong I want people to put there own opinions if it comes to that.

 

I would still lynch a tink over you for 3p.

 

Butif it came down to you two other people who were lost, I would hope it's you lol

[seph]

I wonder if dpr is still here?

[DPR]

For the sake of not making your eyes bleed out of your head if you read last night's manifesto, I'll skip the reposts here. If you have not read it, you need to (I'm sorry) because it is chapter and verse what a scum team does to set up their day.

 

Ima pick up with comments posted after I began telling this story.

 

First up, Liz:

 

That's not tinfoil ignore seph. That's desperation :D

DPR comment on the Darthe issue please.

 

Desperation. On N1. Game hasn't even started yet, and you're going to go with "desperation"?

 

Also, please stop telling people who to comment on. It's annoying, ffs. I'm guessing you used to run the playground with an iron fist, yeah? Put a sock in it. 

 

Who are the scum in this tale of yours? I don't see how I fit into it, or why you bring me up to begin with. And for seph to be scum in this, Lizclov would also be, and he would be moving the focus from one scum to another.

Because if he's scum and Lizclov is town, why would he even bother.

On that note, if they are both scum, why would he bother?

Seph being scum there just makes 0 sense.

 

You don't actually have to think what the older kids tell you to. Think about that.

 

 

 

 

Back to the celebration...

 

And this is where the terrible, horrible, unstoppable and immeasurable diarrhea of the mouth begins.

 

Please keep in mind that at no point during all of the night's commentary does anyone notice or mention NB's suicide vote. That's funny, isn't it? I think so.

 

Bring in Kizzy...

On the laptop so I can commen ton this. Then I have to run to work. But with this last ditch effort, I'm assuming that mrsclov and i will live through the night, so we can elaborate on this later.

 

But I hope everyone pays attention to where DPRs attention has been all game and where it has not been.

 

I have a hard time believing he's this bad of a town player.

 

Tell us your thoughts on Darthe please, DPR. Just humour me. Why do you think he ran away all of a sudden when I called him out on his lie? Does that sound like town!Darthe to you?

 

 

That's the first f'ing time you couldn't comment. Those noises you hear in the distance are the other players cheering.

 

Add "last ditch effort" to desperation. On N1. Because why not?!

 

1. dpr the crusher thing was a misunderstanding. if you read the thread you would know that.
2. Kronos actually provided his own decent reasoning for voting notbob. Guess what I tone read kronos, as I do alot of folks d1. #deal with it I think he is town. The tinfoiling was because I thought notbob had already been lynched, please stop twisting what I said. You know who twists people's words? wolfs do.
3. I am fairly positive I made the post about you when I was thinking crusher was sus for his vote, I late cleared that up with him and AS I SAID HE DESERVES A SLIGHT TOWN READ BECAUSE HE WAS THE VOTE TO PUT NOTBOB IN THE LEAD.


LOL thanks for showing me this dpr..... wow I didn't notice this. inc n1 gamesolve

 

 

1.Crusher handed you your @$$ because you were sloppy. You had to apologize to not appear any more scummy than you already did.

2. Your commentary on Kronos was needless. Nobody asked. You know who shapes game events with their commentary? I bet you do...

3. You're just dissembling here. 

 

Not bob unvotes randomly when his train picks up steam. Think about this logically and tell me what you think.

What are the reasons for a wolf to sacrifice themselves when they have a chance at self preservation if they just leave the vote where its at. There is literally 2 reasons,

1. to save a pr role. which imo is a 90%+chance isn't the case since kizzyclov was on notbob at a # 2 spot) the wolf team would never have pushed a pr so hard to get there in the first place.

2.to sacrifice himself for the better of the team. the important thing is what happened after the unvote.

Now the actions that happened after the notbob unvote.

Crusher moves over the vote shortly after, who by the way had not posted anything b4 that ( i need to check)
darthe moves over who had not been posting previously
kronos moves over who had not beein posting previously.( i know i know i literally just read him town but dpr's comments struck a lightbulb)

To me this looks coordinated as hell. notbobs sus unvote is uneeded unless the scum actually have a plan. kizzclov still could have gotten lynched at this point but these 3 made it a certainty notbob would be lynched.

I find it odd how they don't post until notbob unvotes and then all of this happens extremely quickly, its pretty damn sketch.

Ok ok ok ok now it does not mean all 3 are wolfs by any means. but I bet there are at least two.

lynch order for me would be
Darthe- if im wrong I think he as the strongest chance to be scum without this argument.
crusher- with notbobs unvote it actually make his vote aweful and looks planned. 
Kronos- This could actually fit in crushers place. they could be t/w or w/w This is going with the plan I feel like the mafia tried to work out. or it is extremely coincidental. ps coincidences do not exist if they happen more than once. This happened with 3!! FREAKIN VOTES. 

I think eld could be a 3p still and dpr is really just spouting nonsense now so if the game is still going lynch there. and could sub him in for kronos, especially if darthe is a wolf. I remember him giving kronos a rand townread for nothing early on.

I honestly feel very good about everyone else, or at least have them above these people by a large margin. 

[Eldrick4221]

Your playing like a 3p imo. There is fence sitting, some towny play. Buy your staying in the background and looks like your trying to avoid sis from both parties.

 

Don't get me wrong I want people to put there own opinions if it comes to that.

 

I would still lynch a tink over you for 3p.

 

Butif it came down to you two other people who were lost, I would hope it's you lol

Well you're wrong, but as long as you thinking I'm 3p doesn't mean you want me dead, I guess I don't care.

[The Crusher]

all of those posts by you are pretty darn bad dpr. The main read on notbob was the tone of the post, and the but...whatevs... which sounded highly defensive. you know that 1 thing you don't believe catches scum.

it seems the scum team may be showing us there ashes, 

dpr that was bad enough i might just kill you myself.

Just look at your post towards crusher on notbob, you realize he voted because of me and sooh right. the 1 guy you trust so much on notbob used us as a stepping stool for his read. I am pretty sure he even says he didn't consider it(or something along the lines of that) until he read me and soohs post.

You have this strange tendency to take what I say and concentrate to mean something else. Not sure if it's on purpose or your not use to the way I communicate. The latter is understandable. The one who ruined all, CTM at JN, dubbed it Crusher speak. If you look back I actually went from thinking Jetscode was null to starting to lean scum on him do to the lack of door kicking(questioning) and him spewing crap into the thread. I gave him a little benefit of the doubt because he came late to thirty or so pages and figured he was trolling before fully caught up. He does that part regardless of alignment. What I said was I reconsidered voting him do to the post by you and Sooh. Not because of the two of you. You make it sound like I was riding your coat tails . I was on my way there. Just thought Cloviz was a slam dunk and felt Jetscode needed time to catch up. Once I read you and Soohs point I went back and read Jetscode and decided he was hitting his scumtells so solidly I had to see his flip. I been playing with him for over ten years, hardly need anybody's help in reading him. So DPRwas 100% solid in trusting my read on him. I own teh Jetscode. Now DPRs subsequent case on you? Whewwwww, that one gonna take a minute to wrap my head around. Yet, his cases usually do.

[DPR]

 

Your playing like a 3p imo. There is fence sitting, some towny play. Buy your staying in the background and looks like your trying to avoid sis from both parties.

 

Don't get me wrong I want people to put there own opinions if it comes to that.

 

I would still lynch a tink over you for 3p.

 

Butif it came down to you two other people who were lost, I would hope it's you lol

Well you're wrong, but as long as you thinking I'm 3p doesn't mean you want me dead, I guess I don't care.

 

 

 

You don't care? You're telling him he's wrong and instead of asking yourself what else he could be wrong about, you just shrug?

 

Not exactly a Town attitude, now is it?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Who are the scum in this tale of yours? I don't see how I fit into it, or why you bring me up to begin with. And for seph to be scum in this, Lizclov would also be, and he would be moving the focus from one scum to another.

 

Because if he's scum and Lizclov is town, why would he even bother.

 

On that note, if they are both scum, why would he bother?

 

Seph being scum there just makes 0 sense.

You don't actually have to think what the older kids tell you to. Think about that.

 

Nice nonanswer. Bolded the ones I said don't make sense. Probably ignored the why.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Your playing like a 3p imo. There is fence sitting, some towny play. Buy your staying in the background and looks like your trying to avoid sis from both parties.

 

Don't get me wrong I want people to put there own opinions if it comes to that.

 

I would still lynch a tink over you for 3p.

 

Butif it came down to you two other people who were lost, I would hope it's you lol

Well you're wrong, but as long as you thinking I'm 3p doesn't mean you want me dead, I guess I don't care.

 

You don't care? You're telling him he's wrong and instead of asking yourself what else he could be wrong about, you just shrug?

 

Not exactly a Town attitude, now is it?

Town is often wrong. It was shrugworthy.

 

He's likely more right than you are.

 

It makes way more sense for him to be town than it does you.

[The Crusher]

Just so you guys know. Been out of the clinic for two days with a sinus infection. Got a packed schedule today. Once day starts, if I'm still among you, I will be on and off till I get off at 730. I will do my best to keep up via my phone. Love you all.

[seph]

If someone wants to tell me how not bobs unvote makes sense please do.

A mafia isn't going to kill themselves for no reason. Kizzyclov was the lynch. It had meaning to sacrifice himself

[seph]

Feel better man

[DPR]

 

 

Who are the scum in this tale of yours? I don't see how I fit into it, or why you bring me up to begin with. And for seph to be scum in this, Lizclov would also be, and he would be moving the focus from one scum to another.

 

Because if he's scum and Lizclov is town, why would he even bother.

 

On that note, if they are both scum, why would he bother?

 

Seph being scum there just makes 0 sense.

You don't actually have to think what the older kids tell you to. Think about that.

 

Nice nonanswer. Bolded the ones I said don't make sense. Probably ignored the why.

 

 

 

Eldrick, bubby, you answered your own question just after asking it, hence the bold.

 

Seph is dirty and is working with Kizzy.

 

As far as why they are doing what they are doing, who knows? There are lots of potential reasons, but there is no need to get lost in speculation, All we need to do is take note of their actions:

 

* Seph laid out a case on you and then voted NB - he did post #yolo and #feelsright along with that vote, acknowledging that it was weird. Because it was.

 

*NB commit suicide - no way around that. No scum player ever jumps trains to tie their own up to another player's. We don't know the reason - but we know there has to be one - and the train it benefitted was Kizzy's, plain and simple.

 

*Seph did throw shade at Crusher and myself, framing us up for investigations on D2. That's called Night Steering. Crusher called hi on it right away, and knowing he'd been caught, Seph did apologize and back off. I waited to see who else was going to steer, and Liz/Clov did not disappoint.

 

* I used the word egregious to describe Liz's play in particular. She is a classic example of a novice player who believes in her own faulty logic and thinks others will to. You ever see a child hold their hands over their eyes and say "you can't see me!". That's her. ALL. NIGHT. LONG.

 

This is important - and I've noted it before - Liz in particular does NO SCUMHUNTING. She spends every word of every post telling everyone else what to think y asking questions and then answering them herself. It's a terrible scum technique. Then she's passive aggressive with players, depending on how they rank in the picture she's painting.

 

What she's not is impartial. She has an opinion about everything. Town lays evidence on the table as it is. Scum interprets it for you.

[seph]

I need to go read eod again to check on darthe, but I remember crusher. And I actually think Kronos was posting in catch up mode now that I think about it.

His vote looks better than darthe or crusher if I'm right here.

[seph]

You can't kill me dpr. During the day or at night lol.

[seph]

Dpr.

Explain a scum motive that makes sense for what not Bob did.

I explained the other 2 scenarios I could think of. Literally there is no other option a scum makes in that situation. I also love how riled it is getting you. Please prove me wrong

[seph]

I don't want to waste anymore time if I'm actually wrong on this subject. But there are no such thing as a coincidence happen twice, or 3 times. Especially when evidence is supporting me.

[seph]

Evidence Is supporting the claim...

[Eldrick4221]

I need to go read eod again to check on darthe, but I remember crusher. And I actually think Kronos was posting in catch up mode now that I think about it.

His vote looks better than darthe or crusher if I'm right here.

I think you are. I didn't read in in real time, but that's what it sounded like, now that I think about it.

 

He's the one coming back from the firefighter thing, right?

[seph]

 

I need to go read eod again to check on darthe, but I remember crusher. And I actually think Kronos was posting in catch up mode now that I think about it.

His vote looks better than darthe or crusher if I'm right here.

I think you are. I didn't read in in real time, but that's what it sounded like, now that I think about it.

He's the one coming back from the firefighter thing, right?

Dpr would be better b4 him