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fearbrog

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  1. So the theme of scene is heroes can do all by themselves and don't need any help, is it? Like in the book, right? To make show coherent of course. I guess Avi and Elayne being reborn as sisters is some sort of metaphor of sexual intercource?
  2. You yourself said show made themes coherent. So which theme series shows by letting Egwene do unparalleled feat rivalrd to Dark One(second time in two seasons)? Am I right that scene proves what heroes capable to do anything by themselves and don't need any help? Surely that theme consistent with taking away Rand's solo battle with Ishi and making hem be defended by everyone in cast? Headcanons as romantic*. There are zero Eros between them in books
  3. Which book theme was made coherent by making Egwene triumph over a-dam all by herself? I guess it's: "You can do all by yourself if you try hard enough". Enough love to make sisters into lovers
  4. It's a thing that renders victims free will almost obsolete AND can hurt said victim. It's absolutely a weapon
  5. Show made it irrelevant the moment Egwene able to collar her Sul'dam. Literally uses weapon against her master
  6. Rand should have let Egg do the healing. She would've succeeded.
  7. It's just giving Moiraine more screentime and even more new storylines and she doesn't need anymore. And it's literally mirroring Wells one, like remember Taim's iconic ultimatum, well Moiraine was first to threaten Aes Sedai about submission. And it's not like show 100% would even have Wells
  8. Yeah because show never took scenes from one character gave to another to make latter cooler or stronger or more important. Wait...
  9. Or maybe it's not foreshadowing, but once again taking cool scenes and lines from some characters and giving to another, who doesn't really need even more runtime and storylines
  10. Egwene was siphoned so much Power that everyone around her dies to defeat countless trollocs and still managed to perform the biggest healing miracle, bigger than anything in books. Rand got tricked by Ishy. S1 ends with Egwene's triumph and Rand's failure. In s2 she breaks from impossible situation and goes toe to toe with Ishy. Rand also got caught in impossible situation, twice, and both times he couldn't do anything and was saved by forsaken and Moiraine and Egg. He didn't even fight Ishy, that stabbing was most anticlimactic moment i saw in long time. How you can say they on similar growth path if Egwene uplifted from book and have more Power and better control, while Rand got downgraded and denied to do anything he did in books?
  11. But it's not unimportant detail. Isn't major theme of series is Rand can't and shouldn't do everything himself. People argued reason he needs to be kneeled and saved by everyone else in s2 is reflection of that theme and reminder not to abandon his friends. And yet Egwene can do everything herself, she doesn't need to be saved from impossible trap, nothing can't handle her. Two protagonists are learning completely different lessons. Overall context is Rand useless without others, Egwene perfectly fine without others. We don't know that. Besides he wouldn't be sole pov, Perrin also should have had his time in s1 and Egg and Nyn s2. Why couldn't his arc have cool moments in it? You know, like in a book? We 2 for 2 of Rand not getting it It is not contradiction. It would be like in a books going from simple 2-3 povs in s1 to more povs in future seasons, not switching gear but steady transition. But writers in race to make everyone important abandon Rand.
  12. But Rand was never antagonist. He was always protagonist. Even with madness he still acted in best interest of the Randland. Even if show goes full madman Rand those two quotes contradictory. So we need to build other characters, but don't we need to build Rand and give him time to be protagonist. If show won't let him be hero before painting him villain, how would we be invested in his redemption instead of his defeat
  13. It's not just slowly, for two seasons he denied almost everything he did in two books. No Tarwin's gap, no Falme, no Turak, no Hurin and Ingtar, no Caemlyn, no Cairhein, no flicker. Even Eye of the World subverted from his triumph into failure. Why not cut Tar Valon? Girls also have more story in future books. Why sacrifice Rand's storyline?
  14. You still not explaining. I genuinely do not understand. Why Egwene being saved by Nyn couldn't be filmed. Why was it necessary for THIS thing to be changed? You saying you understand, so please explain. It's not uncharacteristically. He has most pov overall. Despite main theme and his realisation at mountain he still is central and main character. Despite everyone have their stories his stoll story came first and evolved into everyone's. Through him we are meeting the world. It was okay to start from simple and go to complex. But show for some reason needed to start complex give attention to everyone, except Rand and Mat Rand's and Perrin's character cut back. Moiraine greatly expanded, she even has sister now. Instead of Rand's sword training or leadership position with Hurin we now see her dealing with being stilled or not
  15. Well than, explain to me, please, why was it necessary for Rand to be helpless and saved by different characters multiple times during season, but showrunner changed Egwene escape? What was so bad about being saved by Nyn that author needed improve RJ vision? I truly don't understand
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