Wait, Z and Dice get to talk about wrestling all day and when I mention my national team playing our national sport I get a sarcky video, lol. 'Sno fair 😄 Ps, go sports team!

Yup good old soccer, as the Americans would say. Ooph. Just gone 3-0 down. This why I normally ignore sports, lol. My own team just sacked their manager after 60 days. Sighs.

Scotland v Greece is on. More nervy stuff, yikes. My poor aging heart.

And breathe again.

I have fat fingers, ok, lol. Nerves not getting to me at all, hehe.

Vote Lenlo

Vote lenlo

Hammer

I'm here. Will be getting on my bike soon but will keep an eye on the thread. I can even get the ball rolling if you want?

Me? Really? Oh Cairos don't make all my super big brain suspicions of Turin go to waste.

I'm still down for it and sure that there is no danger of voting for Lenlo of losing the game I just was momentarily unavailable. But I need to get to the shops as I'm out of cat food and will be facing an armed insurrection if I don't get my ducks in a row and get on.

And sorry Turin, I just had the first afternoon nap I have had in years. Must be the stress lol. I only went into the bedroom to finally get dressed. Turning into a real lazy Sunday.

Here we are. The joke is AI. But you never said that on the same page. RTE agreeing eliminating Dice while asleep is classic. Lenlo again denying that he followed up with the joke is scummy comment. RTE agreeing with Lenlo about the joke despite thinking it is classic (and that is actually eliminating Dice, not just joking about it). Also add in for context we just had a game where Z made that joke, it was a hammer game and no one took offence, no one eliminated Dice, Z absolutely didn't push it but just lolololololol'd. Not even going to the point where as town, why would I be lying? If the posts are easy to quote, why would I make it up? But sure, yup, you're 100% correct. And 100% wolf, so there is that.

Lenlo will 100% flip mafia. So I'm down.

I'm willing. Gud, you and Cairos would be enough. Plus RTE. Verbal might be annoyed as us hammering will probably mean his NK death. Would that be an issue? Possibly with his refusal to eliminate RTE he'll survive, even if only due to misdirection.

Wordless. Sure, whatever.

Well, can you see how a wolf would want maximum confusion and uncertainty, so even in a situation where there were certainties if you make assumptions, they would claim it wasn't certain? Like if we believe you are town, we still cannot be certain RTE is a wolf. But logic states if you are town, RTE is a wolf. If RTE is town, you are a wolf. Or you both are. It is very wolfy that you are muddying the water.

He didn't it was a joke because she is so wholesome and pure and lovely. It absolutely said nothing about her alignment, it said everything about her soul.

So... You are saying the wolves could be refusing to win the game, so they can make a town player look bad so they have a slightly better chance of winning the game. Rather than win the game in one stroke. That is your logic? Can you maybe see a tiny flaw in it? Potentially, at least. And if I remember right you said one thing you are not is dumb, so why are you arguing this?

So sorry to hear that, Dude. I hope you are better soon.

Why in a game where you don't know who is a wolf... Sorry

Why in a game where you don't know you is a wolf would you back up a player without knowing their alignment? As town, you would have realized that you could have been making things difficult for your own side of Lenlo had randed wolf. But you have spent considerable time and effort bigging up Lenlo in everyone's eyes.

Just an aside and not relevant now, but Andy buddying Dice in PM was a real out of game indicator that he was town. Andy had already played as a wolf, to be mentored by Dice, he had to pretty much to be 100% town. Shame I didn't see this earlier, though not sure that should count and as I wasn't voting Dice perhaps it is moot.

As long as everyone town votes Lenlo, that is fine. Don't understand why I have to be a counter train, unless you mean Lenlo is already voting for me.

It seems unlikely. RTE is sure that Turin is a wolf. If Cairos joined him, even if he was town he would be happy. He wouldn't back off. Otherwise he would have backed off when Turin and Verbal pointed out the danger. It is possible what you are saying, but the chances of it are vanishingly small.