He didn't it was a joke because she is so wholesome and pure and lovely. It absolutely said nothing about her alignment, it said everything about her soul.

So... You are saying the wolves could be refusing to win the game, so they can make a town player look bad so they have a slightly better chance of winning the game. Rather than win the game in one stroke. That is your logic? Can you maybe see a tiny flaw in it? Potentially, at least. And if I remember right you said one thing you are not is dumb, so why are you arguing this?

So sorry to hear that, Dude. I hope you are better soon.

Why in a game where you don't know who is a wolf... Sorry

Why in a game where you don't know you is a wolf would you back up a player without knowing their alignment? As town, you would have realized that you could have been making things difficult for your own side of Lenlo had randed wolf. But you have spent considerable time and effort bigging up Lenlo in everyone's eyes.

Just an aside and not relevant now, but Andy buddying Dice in PM was a real out of game indicator that he was town. Andy had already played as a wolf, to be mentored by Dice, he had to pretty much to be 100% town. Shame I didn't see this earlier, though not sure that should count and as I wasn't voting Dice perhaps it is moot.

As long as everyone town votes Lenlo, that is fine. Don't understand why I have to be a counter train, unless you mean Lenlo is already voting for me.

It seems unlikely. RTE is sure that Turin is a wolf. If Cairos joined him, even if he was town he would be happy. He wouldn't back off. Otherwise he would have backed off when Turin and Verbal pointed out the danger. It is possible what you are saying, but the chances of it are vanishingly small.

Lenlo is a wolf. Absolutely guaranteed. Let's go for him and keep an eye on Turin. And let's face it, you are a wolf too. You've backed up Lenlo throughout the game. I've been thinking about and this is a hill I'm willing to die on. If we lose because you have fished, recommended policy eliminations, backed up a definite wolf from his very first post, gaslighted Z so he derailed the entire thread, were involved in eliminating several townies... Yeah I can live with that. And so should any town player, IMHO.

And then there is the most villagy villager that has ever villaged. Nice try, wolf.

If RTE was town, why would the three wolves not have hammered you? We aren't talking suspicions. We are talking objective fact. At least one of you is a wolf, or the wolves don't want to win, or something like Cairos cannot make it online at a set time so they are waiting, but seems unlikely. And we will lose as soon as they are online at the same time.

Wat? Er, Grease

Wait wait wait. You just claimed you and Lenlo didn't remember Z spamming, but you remember this about Turin? Make it make sense, wolf.

Which if Turin is Town means we lose. Meh.

Why choose Cairos over RTE?

Sounds like a winning formula. Ignore the wolf I'm 100% certain about and vote for the most tenuous of my suspicions. I'm totally down with that.

Amn't I saying I am worried? I don't quite get what you are trying to say I'm afraid. My wolf-speak is a bit rusty.

Thank you, sweetcheeks.

No, you agreed with him that eliminating Dice was classic DM mafia, and then joined in with Lenlo attacking him for joking about, while also piling on negative pressure about his posting style. But yup, it must have been such a surprise to you both that Z was spamming. I totally get it. No way you could have seen that coming.

Quoted, silly autocorrect.

Quote for truth. Probably not really appropriate here, but it sounded good in my head.

Cairos is an easy finger. His posts have been kind of awkward throughout, possibly due to RL. But Turin has buddy buddied me and Gud all day. Hasn't accused us once of being a wolf when he should be a suspicious of everyone as I am. Turin says don't vote. RTE and Lenlo both vote. Look how different they are. RTE is a wolf, he is pushing Turin, look at the vote, either RTE or Turin is a wolf! Lock clear Turin. Who is town's best friend. Turin was instrumental as an established player for bringing down Dice. Or... It is simply Cairos. Or Gud. Meh, why isn't this easier? I knew I just should thrown Turin in the airlock early doors.

Yes you do. As you explained. As VerbL explained. If you were both Town, that would leave three wolves to jump on the vote and we would lose. We haven't lost, ergo there aren't three wolves to jump on the vote as one wolf (at least) is involved in the vote. I'm in exactly the same situation. Lenlo is voting for me. If we were both town it would be game over. I know I'm town, so he must, 100%, no doubt, be a wolf. You should have had the same the experience if you were Town. Why don't you see this despite explaining the no vote thing in the first place?

Out

Also I managed to read about the first 30 pages of the game and I'm questioning Turin's claim to not only have read the entire thing but also be considering reading it again for more clues. In those first pages you can clearly see RTE and Lenlo gaslighting Zander, so I would recommend town players to read it, the game starts on page 6 and if you manage past page 20 I think you should see their treatment of Z and have an idea how likely it is someone would read all 120 pages twice.